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There was a lot of anticipation of this app. So how are people thinking about it? Enjoying it? Using it regularly or played with it and set it aside?
Currently? Played with Zenology GX and set it aside for now.
Once AUv3 is added in, I'll be using it within Koala Sampler for various projects. (I know I could use screen capture to create short videos of oneshots that can be imported into Koala, but eh, too much work. 😂 )
At the minute, I'm mostly working within FL Studio Mobile and Koala Sampler. Got a feeling Gadget may make a "comeback" soon though since I'm writing a rock song (or at least trying to write one).
I have to say..I deleted it, just like the fantom I sold, and the mc707 I’m selling, it just sounds old (not in a good way) especially when you have things like serum2, avenger2, phaseplant, komplete, pigments, halion, mpc live 3…. The Roland stuff just sounds like ummm Roland stuff…you know piano, piano with reverb, piano with chorus and reverb…yea there’s 4000 patches but a great many of them are just the same thing over and over with a few different settings. The volume was really low compared to any other synth on iOS. many people will enjoy it, I’m sure… it’s not for me. I can tell it’s gonna be over 15-20 bucks, so yea I’m not the target audience on this one.
Tbh, I almost assume that I won't like stuff from these big companies. It's like music. The things that are popular are rarely the things that interest me much. I didn't even bother downloading it 😂
Plus, I can't stand the whole 'release it free and don't tell people what it'll cost' marketing approach.
Kinda have to agree here, My guess is either ~$29.99 for iOS IAP unlock or do the mid-tier Lolland Cloud subscription thing...
...the worst thing in this all will be that if people get hooked on the AUv3 they kinda have to pay or loose their work...
I’m seriously having difficulty understanding why they released this before it had AUv3.
I honestly cannot come up with one positive point of doing that.
Plus, the volume is way too quite out of the box.
Only one of many bizarre decisions, yes.
I really like it, but then I've always loved the classic Roland sounds. I've been playing it a lot, mostly with a midi keyboard. It's excellent for making MC1010 presets and sounds for Zenbeats, too. I think it's well designed, too. The velocity settings need sorting and it obviously needs AUv3, but it sounds great and will be very useful indeed. I'll be buying it.
I’m glad to see the passion and willingness to defend Roland. I’ve no doubt the AUv3 implementation will be quality but I don’t understand why it’s taken so long. I’ve come to the conclusion that’s it’s already done but awaiting sign off by Roland leadership and I know from working with Japanese companies in the past that the process is hierarchical and slow.
Hope it comes out soon Matt. I’m a massive Roland fan and own several hardware products and even I’m starting to lose interest.
Completely agree. Trying to get people hooked under the guise of generosity is cringe worthy. Plus, if you’re trying to do that, you better be sure you’ve got an absolutely shit hot product otherwise it’s likely to backfire. Thusfar, I can only imagine the reception is leading them to revise the price downwards.
Companies always seem to make the mistake of thinking consumers are as excited about their ‘big news’ as they are and that anticipation can outlast any wait for information to be released. In reality it just causes frustration, people get bored and forget.
Personally, having had a quick play with it, I’m not interested in exploring it further until I know the price. That’s the only way to judge the value of it.
Yeah, this...
Yep. It's been a textbook lesson in how to alienate past, present and future customers. A masterclass in what not to do in a marketing campaign...
Maybe AI came up with the marketing plan? 😂
Maybe some 80s coke head executives are still in charge. Both make about as much sense and move the same speed.
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If they think the synth sounds great, the reason could be as simple as wanting a great-sounding app out there and get some buzz about it going while they tackle how to harness it as an AU.
Secondarily, the feedback about what people want from the AU may influence how they go about it.
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It seems unlikely that there is anything going on other than it is a bigger project than you realize to get the AU part done. People (even programmers working on a project) often radically underestimate the time taken to get something done.
Not understanding why something is taking a long time doesn’t mean that aren’t good reasons. I’ve worked on projects with great programmers that have taken years longer than expected.
I haven't done it as I don't have my mc-101 with me atm. Another member @purpan2 mentioned he successfully did it with single patches.
I will add though that I found what appears to be a difference in the way patches are exported on ZGX vs Zenology Pro for desktop. On desktop you can only export .svz banks not single patches, while on the ipad it seems you can only export single patches (at least that's all I've been able to save for later export).
I was planning to put off my purchase of Zenology Pro while it's on sale, but that's tried and tested while there are still a lot of unknowns with ZGX, so I think I ultimately will buy Zenology Pro. Hopefully ZGX will end up being cheap enough to also grab that later on.
It makes me a bit sad to read some of these negative comments to be honest. Everyone is always entitled to their opinion of course, but just…. chill for a sec or two here.
Stuff takes time, and sometimes considerably more time time than expected just like @espiegel123 writes. Given all the circumstances regarding ZGX on iPad, I am confident Roland is working as fast as they can to provide us with a top- notch product. I am also sure that the chosen marketing approach will be internally discussed. Obviously, it did not play out the best. Shit happens.
What I do not believe, is that this approach is deliberate to raise interest in the product. My guess is that stuff turned up in porting the product that delayed what looked like a regular launch planned with a shorter timeline. Roland is a large pro company, and there are great people working there who genuinely loves music. There is no way they would send representatives to NAMM to present a product, and then just delay matters as a strategy. The decision to launch without AUv3 and make it free for now, must IMO have been to somewhat smooth an unplanned delay, I can’t see it any other way.
Whether you like the Roland ”sound character” or not, or find the sounds useable, old, or not to your liking for some reason, that is another matter. No one is forcing anyone into anything and YMMV.
Personally, I am so looking forward to the AUv3 version of ZGX, but in the meantime I am having a blast with everything else we have to play with.
Everyone take care now, enjoy the beginning of summer🤩, and we will get ZGX when it’s ready.
/DMfan🇸🇪
The whole no AUv3 thing is indeed a buzz kill, but I'm changing my approach to treating ZGX as a Beta. I really enjoyed watching and learning from Nu-Trix's video:
It is really a deep synth. This could explain the AUv3 delay. Fitting all of that power into limited memory so that multiple instances doesn't bog down the system is a daunting challenge.
Roland, great for exporting to hardware….. plotting and scheming and kinda lame from what I was expecting from the initial spiel.
Well, it was free to download, and everyone got excited by the hype. When it eventually drops as AUV3 it will be a separate app that makes it easy to attach a subscription to. And those who have had a free play at this have a harder decision, no?
I mean, it's going to be subscription, right?
Probably a sub and/or a lifetime unlock. I bet they'll price the lifetime unlock at an ungodly amount of money to force people to adopt the subscription. 😂 Sorry for being a cynic.
Zenology Pro is still on sale for $99
Zenology GX won’t be more than that. I think…
Cheaper than collecting the hardware
Sounds like a very wise approach!
Deep it is when you start digging. ZGX is the same synth as Pro on iOS but without model expansions.
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/DMfan🇸🇪
Who knows how much it will be. Another mystery. Another perplexing decision by Roland to keep those details to themselves. Surely they already knew the pricing model before they developed the app.
I finally downloaded Zenology GX and I think they have a brilliant idea offering the app as a free limited (non-AUv3 & not all presets) demo version for a limited time. It would be nice to see this become more common, even if it was just a 48 hour evaluation window, after which one would have to purchase an app.
Zenology GX is great for someone who does not already have a massive library of the Roland sound and who is into the genres of music that Roland focuses on. This wouldn’t be my main app for creating Ambient for example, although one certainly can create some passible Ambient with Zenology GX. Zenology Pro would probably be much better for that. Face it, Roland’s sound is stuck in the 1990’s, with an emphasis on Virtual Analog & PCM. If you like that sound or occasionally need it then this app will be great. The vast number of presets is offset by the reality that so many of them sound the same, as if the same patch were just tweaked slightly. There are a lot of people who really just want to play or compose and don’t want to get their hands dirty and wrack their brains figuring out synthesis (I feel that way about FM synthesis), or maybe just make some minor tweaks, so there is a big market for Roland’s approach.
I just auditioned the presets, which doesn’t reveal the full potential of any synth, but it does show the character of a synth since the presets are created by people who are skilled with that particular synth. It is almost as if the presets have a predetermined volume level: synth pads are softer and synth leads are louder to cut through the mix. I understand the logic here, and that’s OK if I don’t have to do a lot of work constantly boosting pads. This touches on the Loudness Wars, and I don’t want to get into that.
The organization of presets by Types and then Packs is effective. Dealing with huge preset libraries is often a challenge, and I like that I can select Favorites, Ratings and then add Tags, all of which are easy to delete. The big bonus here is the ability to add User Tags. That’s super handy! It would take some work to organize the entire library, but kudos to Roland for making this system to deal with the huge library.
Even though I already have a large library of Roland sounds and this doesn’t offer anything particularly new for me, I’ll probably pay for the app just for the convenience of having it on the iPad. I wish that Roland would add in some other synthesis types to augment their sound, but I don’t see any evidence of that being on their horizon. I can just imagine what could be done if they combined their Virtual Analog & PCM emphasis with Wave Sequencing and Granular Synthesis, as an example. Fingers crossed, but it seems like the innovative synthesis will be left to other devs.
Well, the pricing uncertainty has had one effect on me… I’ve bought Zenology Pro.
I don’t know if someone else has already mentioned it, but I messed around with this VERY briefly today and the biggest thing that stood out to me right away was how freaking quiet this thing is. Maybe I’m missing something, but I had the volume on my iPad Pro at maximum and could still barely hear any of the sounds this synth was producing.
Roland knows and they’re on it.
/DMfan🇸🇪