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A lovely Mozaic patch

SPACEDRIFT, a free patch for Mozaic available on Patchstorage, is billed as:

a generative ambient engine with chord probability matrixing, 4-part independent voice leading, and asynchronous drift timing.

I used it to make the pad in this track.

Comments

  • edited June 5

    I should have mentioned that SPACEDRIFT is the genius brainchild of our very own @egobeats.

  • You're so awesome!

    lovely track1

  • How dare you collaborate with a human and make something evocative in the age of slop! (Huffs indignantly) 😤

  • heshes
    edited June 4

    @audiblevideo said:
    How dare you collaborate with a human and make something evocative in the age of slop! (Huffs indignantly) 😤

    I wonder whether AI might have played some role in the collaboration, and whether the end product might actually be better for it.

  • @hes said:

    @audiblevideo said:
    How dare you collaborate with a human and make something evocative in the age of slop! (Huffs indignantly) 😤

    I wonder whether AI might have played some role in the collaboration, and whether the end product might actually be better for it.

    No.

  • @garden said:

    @hes said:

    @audiblevideo said:
    How dare you collaborate with a human and make something evocative in the age of slop! (Huffs indignantly) 😤

    I wonder whether AI might have played some role in the collaboration, and whether the end product might actually be better for it.

    No.

    @egobeats would have to comment on whether the script was generated with AI assistance

  • @Gavinski said:

    @garden said:

    @hes said:

    @audiblevideo said:
    How dare you collaborate with a human and make something evocative in the age of slop! (Huffs indignantly) 😤

    I wonder whether AI might have played some role in the collaboration, and whether the end product might actually be better for it.

    No.

    @egobeats would have to comment on whether the script was generated with AI assistance

    I didn't read it as "did it", but as "could or should it". The reading was reinforced by the second clause.

    If I've misread it, then my response would be less pithy:

    Hope not, and no.

  • @garden said:

    @hes said:

    @audiblevideo said:
    How dare you collaborate with a human and make something evocative in the age of slop! (Huffs indignantly) 😤

    I wonder whether AI might have played some role in the collaboration, and whether the end product might actually be better for it.

    No.

    Hmm. Certainly the patch description at PatchStorage makes me think of AI writing. In a good way, I would add:

    https://patchstorage.com/spacedrift/

  • Yes, this is almost certainly AI, sure

  • Sad.

  • @hes @garden @Gavinski

    It would seem that I have touched off somewhat of a tempest in a teapot.🙂

    I am presented with the opportunity to ask a couple of questions that I’ve been wondering about.

    1. How can you tell with certainty that a piece of text has been written by AI? Are there telltale signs? Certain phrases that recur?

    2. In your view, does the use of AI in any way taint a work that was produced using it? (You can be as candid as you like about this. You won’t hurt my feelings.)

    3. How do you know that I’m not some AI bot writing this?🙂

  • @rottencat said:
    @hes @garden @Gavinski

    It would seem that I have touched off somewhat of a tempest in a teapot.🙂

    I am presented with the opportunity to ask a couple of questions that I’ve been wondering about.

    1. How can you tell with certainty that a piece of text has been written by AI? Are there telltale signs? Certain phrases that recur?

    2. In your view, does the use of AI in any way taint a work that was produced using it? (You can be as candid as you like about this. You won’t hurt my feelings.)

    3. How do you know that I’m not some AI bot writing this?🙂

    I'm also wondering how they suspect AI. But AI or not, your track is really good.

  • edited June 5

    @rottencat said:
    @hes @garden @Gavinski

    It would seem that I have touched off somewhat of a tempest in a teapot.🙂

    I am presented with the opportunity to ask a couple of questions that I’ve been wondering about.

    1. How can you tell with certainty that a piece of text has been written by AI? Are there telltale signs? Certain phrases that recur?

    2. In your view, does the use of AI in any way taint a work that was produced using it? (You can be as candid as you like about this. You won’t hurt my feelings.)

    3. How do you know that I’m not some AI bot writing this?🙂

    No tempest on my part.
    Responses, though:

    1: LLMs have a generic style, if not prompted toward a particular tone. They're blanders. They also tend to overwrite, adding generalities more than information.

    2: Yes. I don't think of AI-generated art as art. It can have purely esthetic appeal - we all like a pretty picture - but it "means" nothing. It is not communication or intention. And more insidiously than more conventional generative methods, it offers more of the sheen of pretense, which is already being used to displace actual human work.

    3: Honestly, I don't. And I'll even say that the tone has some of the affect. The text I'm replying to could indeed have been produced by someone asking an LLM to generate just this kind of leading inquiry. (Edit: though "some AI bot" isn't a phrasing I would expect. So for now, I say it ain't so.)

    Disclaimer: I work with LLMs every day, as part of my work. I happen to hate it, but I've been observing it closely for quite some time.

  • edited June 5

    Idea was mine, efforts were mine, syntax errors were checked by AI. optimization suggestions were made by AI, description was mine. In contrast to my typical writing style I thought my description was rather professional and time consuming.

    So.. 90% AI

    Does it really matter tho?

    Images were made in Gemeni

  • edited June 5

    @egobeats said:
    Idea was mine, efforts were mine, syntax errors were checked by AI. optimization suggestions were made by AI, description was mine. In contrast to my typical writing style I thought my description was rather professional and time consuming.

    So.. 90% AI

    Does it really matter tho?

    Images were made in Gemeni

    I've downloaded both versions of the patch, by the way. I haven't had the opportunity to use it yet.

    Edit: Have you found the code that the model generated to be instructive? Has your expertise with Mozaic increased? Are you likely to rely less on the model for further work?

  • @egobeats said:
    Idea was mine, efforts were mine, syntax errors were checked by AI. optimization suggestions were made by AI, description was mine. In contrast to my typical writing style I thought my description was rather professional and time consuming.

    So.. 90% AI

    Does it really matter tho?

    Images were made in Gemeni

    Thanks for clarifying it! For me, no problem at all. The patch is good.

  • heshes
    edited 12:33AM

    @egobeats said:
    Idea was mine, efforts were mine, syntax errors were checked by AI. optimization suggestions were made by AI, description was mine. In contrast to my typical writing style I thought my description was rather professional and time consuming.

    So.. 90% AI

    Does it really matter tho?

    Images were made in Gemeni

    With a small Mozaic script like this, I'm probably more inclined to trust it if AI was used to help with it than if AI wasn't. LLMs are now quite good at these little scripts, I think, if properly prompted and output is reviewed by someone who knows what they're doing. Gives clean, well structured code, keeps things organized, speeds up process. . .

    Kudos on the description. Your description seemed like AI to me mostly because it was much better than most descriptions: more complete, more logically organized, no grammatical or spelling errors, a couple flourishes or phrases that sounded AI-like. Documentation is something that is almost always given short-shrift. Having AI help with documentation, IMO, should be accepted as a necessary step, like expecting someone to run spell-check on any important piece of writing.

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