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Are there any decent AUV3 tuners?
I’m looking for a tuner that I can just leave as an open window in AUM. The only one I can find is the one by Nembrini and it’s just a terrible tuner. The tracking is so bad that it’s unusable for me. Any recommendations?
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'the tracking is so bad'... Just to check: what are you trying to tune? A guitar or something else?
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tuner-t1/id453056916
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tuner-lite-by-piascore/id635828559
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tonalenergy-tuner-metronome/id497716362
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/n-track-tuner/id409786458
Guitar. Most of the good tunes can track a pitch if you hold a note and bend it up a semitone or a tone. The one I’m complaining about take a half second or more to even register a note. It almost always displays the wrong note 1st and then eventually if you hit the note enough times moves up to what it is actually hearing.
I’m not even asking that much of it. Even Non dedicated tuners like the ones built into Gigfast or THU Overloud do the job just fine.
None of those are AUV3.
Crazy eh, you'd expect Nembrini to make a decent guitar tuner, hmm wow
huh. i'm surprised there aren't many of these. i like the blue mangoo helix tuner for in-the-room tuning, but for this use i guess i'd be reaching for tonestack pro, which is overkill if you don't already have it for its other bits.
https://apps.apple.com/app/helix-tuner/id1444576708
https://apps.apple.com/app/tonestack-pro-guitar-amps-fx/id1529842791
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Tuna - it’s in my guitar folder of stuff.. AUv3.. window is resizable in AUM.. can’t say how accurate it is..
https://apps.apple.com/app/tuna/id6502844824
Yeah, I have a lot of standalone packages that are overkill for just a tuner. It would be nice to have one that can just sit there open in the corner of AUM, scaled down to a size where it’s never in the way. I wouldn’t have to open a window to use it.
My favorite tuner is Tonal Energy in “analysis” mode. That’s just an amazing tuner but not AUV3.
Yeah, it’s not like they’re not extremely capable as developers. At least they didn’t charge anything for it.
Primo has a built in tuner and it's AUV3
UPDATE: I found two plug-ins that do exactly what I’m asking for. Both free.
Searching the appstore for “auv3 tuner” didn’t find either of these. I had to use an app that solely searches for plug-ins, “Aube 2”
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pitchli/id6762160541
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tuna/id6502844824
Chow BYOD also has a good tuner and is Auv3.
Aube 2 coming in clutch like always. That app is 10/10.
My suggestion was going to be an Aurora DSP amp sim since they have them built in and I like em.
Having tried most, if not all of these I have to say pitchli and the tuner in logic pro work the best for my application: uke, bass, guitar and synth tuning. Mostly when I am to lazy to take out my peterson strobostomp.
The pitchli one is nice.
I have an unusual use case. I sample household objects that have a tone and I’d like to be able to figure out the pitch. Pitchli seems to want a sustained tone. Any of these work for shorter sounds?
Something like MIDI Guitar 2 would probably do better at that. It’s designed for quick detection of transient based sounds such as guitar. You could have it output to a midi recorder to review the notes.
Or, probably better … use a spectrogram. Tone Boosters Spectrogram is free and great for this. You can see the strong frequencies easily and match them up with the displayed keyboard. This tells you a lot more about the sound than just the fundamental frequency.
MIDI Guitar came to mind as well.
Another option could be loading it into a sampler, trimming to the main frequency, and using that as a sustained note. Not sure if that would work but you could run it into a tuner.
I would maybe think about using a spectrum analyzer like this one for that kind of application:
https://apps.apple.com/nl/app/audio-spectrum-analyzer-pro/id1152352806
Or maybe something like scaler eq would do the job?
Funnily enough I dug into this a while back, from the perspective of both live guitar iPad setup user and occasional AUv3 developer.
FWIW, I came to the conclusion that the more sophisticated the PDA is, the more CPU it'll consume - no surprises there. Folks have literally done Computer Science PhDs on this topic - it's pretty advanced stuff! You can totally tell how sophisticated the PDA is, (or isn't) mostly by how much it "struggles" to identify the fundamental...
And for all that this was a while ago, I never found anything software-based that out-performed my good old D'Addario headstock clip-on. I think there are some advantages that it's vibration-based, instead of looking at a "clean" audio signal, but that's just a gut feel - I have no "science" to back this up.
I especially like that there's a USB-C rechargeable micro version available now. It's literally the only item of hardware I kept (aside from the guitars) after selling all my guitar amps and pedals and switching to iPad.
Clip on tuner was my first thought too. They’re so tiny and inexpensive now. But then I read the post about using it for detecting note bends and stuff and thought that might be awkward to be looking at all the time.
Garageband, Cubasis and Tonex works best for me for bass. Tried pitchli and it doesn't recognize the E and A string at all...
Only one of them is AUV3 obviously.... but you have GB laying around for sure.
Rob, do you play live with the iPad? If so, what are you using for an interface?
Yep. I use an old Rubix 22 mostly because it has a metal case and is pretty sturdy. The 11" iPad, interface, USB hub, MIDI foot switches and power bank all fit on a Pedaltrain Metro 24.