Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.

What is Loopy Pro?Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.

Use it for live looping, sequencing, arranging, mixing, and much more. Whether you're a live performer, a producer, or just experimenting with sound, Loopy Pro helps you take control of your creative process.

Download on the App Store

Loopy Pro is your all-in-one musical toolkit. Try it for free today.

FRUM

145791014

Comments

  • @rarien said:
    Actually Kobamoto, out of respect, I'd like to wait a bit first.

    Sound vaguely like honeymoon night talk....

  • @AudioGus said:
    You should say in the app description that loading and saving requires an internet connection and everything is saved on a server. Phone data is very expensive where I live.

    He's right.

  • edited September 2016

    I bought this app because it looked fun and was cheap enough to take a chance.

    Last night I opened the app, started a little jingle. Then disconnected the app in airplane mode and it still worked. I added a little more to the jingle (fun but nothing to wrote home about or save for that matter).

    This morning I messed with again in airplane mode and it still worked. Since they said it's cached after the first open, I restarted to see if it still opened without an internet connection.

    It started and edited fine. Then, I did a hard reset to see if the iPad lost the cache. It didn't. Still opened and I was still able to edit and play the jingle.

    So ultimately, everything is essentially the same as my impression when I bought the app. The data collection stuff I think as an honest miscommunication mistake.

    Sure I'd prefer if to be 100% stand alone, have AudioShare to copy my tune to, and have AB & IAA. But, other than the data collection privacy snafu, the app is still easily worth the $3 that I paid and will keep it with hope that they continue development on this cool little app. :)

    That's me though. To each their own.

  • edited September 2016

    @skiphunt said:

    Last night I opened the app, started a little jingle. Then disconnected the app in airplane mode and it still worked. I added a little more to the jingle (fun but nothing to wrote home about or save for that matter).

    This morning I messed with again in airplane mode and it still worked. Since they said it's cached after the first open, I restarted to see if it still opened without an internet connection.

    It started and edited fine. Then, I did a hard reset to see if the iPad lost the cache. It didn't. Still opened and I was still able to edit and play the jingle.

    Of course it will, it saves the last thing you did. But if you start a new song offline you'll lose everything you did before that. For any musician that works with more than one song that's an issue.

    @skiphunt said:

    The data collection stuff I think as an honest miscommunication mistake.

    Maybe. This is a pretty polished music app though, which takes and stores your data on a server and shares user files via it's own network - this isn't a beginners experimental sound generator created in a Swansea bedroom. This is either (their explanation) a sloppy approach to the business/legal side of things (copying and pasting someone else's terms that don't match your product), a genuine linguistic mistake or something else entirely. Either way, an admission of incompetence is not what you want from a company that's just had access to your personal data, and has it stored on a server somewhere. Then there's this:

    _And thank you for your complement, we are also considering to make
    this app work without the network because I personally believe it is mandatory.

    followed by:

    can you FIX it please, so it can .work OFF-LINE?

    I'm sorry, that is not planned yet.
    Please use it at wifi or internet available place.
    You can also try the tethering with your mobile phone.

    So they tell one person they're considering an offline version and to another say it's not planned.

    I love what this app does, the sounds it makes, even the UI. But there are some serious privacy and usability issues here and I'm not convinced by the explanations so far.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @skiphunt said:

    Last night I opened the app, started a little jingle. Then disconnected the app in airplane mode and it still worked. I added a little more to the jingle (fun but nothing to wrote home about or save for that matter).

    This morning I messed with again in airplane mode and it still worked. Since they said it's cached after the first open, I restarted to see if it still opened without an internet connection.

    It started and edited fine. Then, I did a hard reset to see if the iPad lost the cache. It didn't. Still opened and I was still able to edit and play the jingle.

    Of course it will, it saves the last thing you did. But if you start a new song offline you'll lose everything you did before that. For any musician that works with more than one song that's an issue.

    @skiphunt said:

    The data collection stuff I think as an honest miscommunication mistake.

    Maybe. This is a pretty polished music app though, which takes and stores your data on a server and shares user files via it's own network - this isn't a beginners experimental sound generator created in a Swansea bedroom. This is either (their explanation) a sloppy approach to the business/legal side of things (copying and pasting someone else's terms that don't match your product), a genuine linguistic mistake or something else entirely. Either way, I'm not comfortable not knowing what data they've harvested from my device. An admission of incompetence is not what you want from a company that's just had access to your personal data, and has it stored on a server somewhere. Then there's this:

    _And thank you for your complement, we are also considering to make
    this app work without the network because I personally believe it is mandatory.

    followed by:

    can you FIX it please, so it can .work OFF-LINE?

    I'm sorry, that is not planned yet.
    Please use it at wifi or internet available place.
    You can also try the tethering with your mobile phone.

    So they tell one person they're considering an offline version and to another say it's not planned.

    I love what this app does, the sounds it makes, even the UI. But there are some serious privacy and usability issues here and I'm not convinced by the explanations so far.

    I'm prepared to give them ten minutes and see where we are then. In the meantime I'm going to start a band (maybe even a movement) called The Swansea Bedrooms.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    Then there's this:

    _And thank you for your complement, we are also considering to make
    this app work without the network because I personally believe it is mandatory.

    followed by:

    can you FIX it please, so it can .work OFF-LINE?

    I'm sorry, that is not planned yet.
    Please use it at wifi or internet available place.
    You can also try the tethering with your mobile phone.

    So they tell one person they're considering an offline version and to another say it's not planned.

    I love what this app does, the sounds it makes, even the UI. But there are some serious privacy and usability issues here and I'm not convinced by the explanations so far.

    The person responding here is says he's a friend of the developer and I think others on the board post their direct communication with the developer himself, which probably explains the mixed messages.

  • I think we can all agree that it's interesting to see it unfold. Thumbs up to all for the civil discourse in disagreement.

    And I would love to hear what the suspiciously self-deprecating "nonmusician" Skip Hunt is making! (Really, man, no one believes your "I can't play" shtick! :)) But we will have to wait for Frum to allow his tracks to be shared. Or — duh! We'll just have to join the network where you can post them!

  • edited September 2016

    @studioAB said:

    The person responding here is says he's a friend of the developer and I think others on the board post their direct communication with the developer himself, which probably explains the mixed messages.

    I think they need to have a word with him then, or make a personal appearance as their friend seems to be making some fairly decisive statements about their apps development. :)

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    I think we can all agree that it's interesting to see it unfold. Thumbs up to all for the civil discourse in disagreement.

    I think we all really love the app. I think it's brilliant, and I'd happily pay more for a network-free standalone version with AB and IAA. If this discussion helps that to happen then everyone's a winner.

    If it wasn't for the lack of saving and data collection I'd even be happy with the version we've got - I recorded a few blasts into Logic earlier - great fun.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    YES, but what about The Swansea Bedrooms?! I've got the inside scoop right here:

    http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/create-shoegaze-guitar-sound-effects-pedals/

  • @skiphunt said:
    I bought this app because it looked fun and was cheap enough to take a chance.

    Last night I opened the app, started a little jingle. Then disconnected the app in airplane mode and it still worked. I added a little more to the jingle (fun but nothing to wrote home about or save for that matter).

    This morning I messed with again in airplane mode and it still worked. Since they said it's cached after the first open, I restarted to see if it still opened without an internet connection.

    It started and edited fine. Then, I did a hard reset to see if the iPad lost the cache. It didn't. Still opened and I was still able to edit and play the jingle.

    So ultimately, everything is essentially the same as my impression when I bought the app. The data collection stuff I think as an honest miscommunication mistake.

    Sure I'd prefer if to be 100% stand alone, have AudioShare to copy my tune to, and have AB & IAA. But, other than the data collection privacy snafu, the app is still easily worth the $3 that I paid and will keep it with hope that they continue development on this cool little app. :)

    That's me though. To each their own.

    Can you load sound presets in airplane mode?

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    YES, but what about The Swansea Bedrooms?! I've got the inside scoop right here:

    http://flypaper.soundfly.com/tips/create-shoegaze-guitar-sound-effects-pedals/

    Already on the case captain, I'm producing the new album 'Units Still Available at Westfield Industrial Estate', created entirely in FluxPad from cow samples.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    'Units Still Available at Westfield Industrial Estate'

    I'm not sure you have any idea how absolutely brilliant that really is. I have to go back up to Maine this weekend and will be there for at least a few weeks emptying our old house out. It'll be hard (solo) work, but I have been thinking of working on some longer pieces while I'm there. I'd been wondering about a theme or a jumping off point. I think I've found it.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    'Units Still Available at Westfield Industrial Estate'

    I'm not sure you have any idea how absolutely brilliant that really is. I have to go back up to Maine this weekend and will be there for at least a few weeks emptying our old house out. It'll be hard (solo) work, but I have been thinking of working on some longer pieces while I'm there. I'd been wondering about a theme or a jumping off point. I think I've found it.

    You've got to do it all in FluxPad though, that's the deal. I'll let the cow samples go though...

  • edited September 2016

    sorry if i missed this part of the discussion....

    If I don't register or login, am I still being "watched"?
    I've only entered a name when it asked me first time load.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    The scariest part there is the "but not limited to". So......this is saying potentially any and every kind of information on the device could be "collected"?

  • @Redo1 said:
    sorry if i missed this part of the discussion....

    If I don't register or login, am I still being "watched"?
    I've only entered a name when it asked me first time load.

    They are not only watching you, they are also sending the boys 'round to raid your snicker bars! :p

  • edited September 2016

    @Redo1 said:
    sorry if i missed this part of the discussion....

    If I don't register or login, am I still being "watched"?

    Yep, they're gathering your info from the moment you open the app with an internet connection. If you register for an account they grab a bit more. Every time you open the app you're giving access to your data so they can monitor what device you're using.

    @Redo1 said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    The scariest part there is the "but not limited to". So......this is saying potentially any and every kind of information on the device could be "collected"?

    Right again. Really that part makes the stuff listed previously irrelevant as it's stating they could be collecting anything from your device, and are not telling you what it will be.

    The automatic opt-in without warning is, in my opinion a serious privacy infringement, though until we have a definitive list from the devs themselves we can only guess at what they've accessed. Maybe there's nothing to worry about and it's just a bad cut and paste job of someone else's privacy statement.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    You've got to do it all in FluxPad though, that's the deal. I'll let the cow samples go though...

    Nah, it's going to be the other way around. Many maudlin electrified cellos, a dead man playing a piano. And cow samples.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    You've got to do it all in FluxPad though, that's the deal. I'll let the cow samples go though...

    Nah, it's going to be the other way around. Many maudlin electrified cellos, a dead man playing a piano. And cow samples.

    You've just described the last Scott Walker album.

  • edited September 2016

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    You've got to do it all in FluxPad though, that's the deal. I'll let the cow samples go though...

    Nah, it's going to be the other way around. Many maudlin electrified cellos, a dead man playing a piano. And cow samples.

    Now you're talking!

    I know a guy here, writes his own music and does a lot of busking in South Wales. He gave me a couple of his tapes once, and they have the most amazing titles - real Dylan Thomas stuff....fantastic evocative titles that set the mind racing. Then when you listen to them they're all very similar sounding - badly recorded, mad, clattery Yamaha PCR tracks with him laughing, coughing and ranting over the top.

    I bumped into him busking once, and he had a cardboard box with a selection of his tapes for sale - £1 each. 'How do you copy them Paul?' I asked, as I hadn't noticed much kit in his flat. 'I don't, like' he replied. So basically he would record an hour or so of original music, and sell the only copy to strangers for a pound. I just find that really inspiring.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Redo1 said:
    sorry if i missed this part of the discussion....

    If I don't register or login, am I still being "watched"?

    Yep, they're gathering your info from the moment you open the app with an internet connection. If you register for an account they grab a bit more. Every time you open the app you're giving access to your data so they can monitor what device you're using.

    @Redo1 said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    The scariest part there is the "but not limited to". So......this is saying potentially any and every kind of information on the device could be "collected"?

    Right again. Really that part makes the stuff listed previously irrelevant as it's stating they could be collecting anything from your device, and are not telling you what it will be.

    The automatic opt-in without warning is, in my opinion a serious privacy infringement, though until we have a definitive list from the devs themselves we can only guess at what they've accessed. Maybe there's nothing to worry about and it's just a bad cut and paste job of someone else's privacy statement.

    I hope they don't use my naked selfies as their new splash screen.

  • @Redo1 said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Redo1 said:
    sorry if i missed this part of the discussion....

    If I don't register or login, am I still being "watched"?

    Yep, they're gathering your info from the moment you open the app with an internet connection. If you register for an account they grab a bit more. Every time you open the app you're giving access to your data so they can monitor what device you're using.

    @Redo1 said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    The scariest part there is the "but not limited to". So......this is saying potentially any and every kind of information on the device could be "collected"?

    Right again. Really that part makes the stuff listed previously irrelevant as it's stating they could be collecting anything from your device, and are not telling you what it will be.

    The automatic opt-in without warning is, in my opinion a serious privacy infringement, though until we have a definitive list from the devs themselves we can only guess at what they've accessed. Maybe there's nothing to worry about and it's just a bad cut and paste job of someone else's privacy statement.

    I hope they don't use my naked selfies as their new splash screen.

    hehe

  • Not to be belittle the privacy issue (which really seems to just boil down to 'this is a webpage'), nor the technical issue, which again, this being a webapp, means that getting the audio engine of FRUM (most likely javascript) to talk to the Audiobus SDK might be quite the gap to bridge, but my favorite part of all this is:

    @usk said:
    @MonzoPro said:
    Oh that's alright then.

    I laughed on this comment.
    I like this kind of talking which Japanese normally don't do.

    Sarcasm is well known not to be easily detected in text. So for it to successfully make the cross cultural leap, well, color me amused :)

    FRUM looks quite fun, add Ableton Link, and some way to use in AUM (AU/IAA/Audiobus), and I'm in!

  • @MonzoPro said:

    ?..I bumped into him busking once, and he had a cardboard box with a selection of his tapes for sale - £1 each. 'How do you copy them Paul?' I asked, as I hadn't noticed much kit in his flat. 'I don't, like' he replied. So basically he would record an hour or so of original music, and sell the only copy to strangers for a pound. I just find that really inspiring.

    Magic stuff! I'd have bought a stack of those! :)

  • edited September 2016

    @richiehoop said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    ?..I bumped into him busking once, and he had a cardboard box with a selection of his tapes for sale - £1 each. 'How do you copy them Paul?' I asked, as I hadn't noticed much kit in his flat. 'I don't, like' he replied. So basically he would record an hour or so of original music, and sell the only copy to strangers for a pound. I just find that really inspiring.

    Magic stuff! I'd have bought a stack of those! :)

    Absolutely. I LOVE that story. The value of art, pointlessness, manufacturing, ephemera, all the good things in one nutshell. In some other parallel universe Paul is a Gandhi figure, revered and rightly so....

  • edited September 2016

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @richiehoop said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    ?..I bumped into him busking once, and he had a cardboard box with a selection of his tapes for sale - £1 each. 'How do you copy them Paul?' I asked, as I hadn't noticed much kit in his flat. 'I don't, like' he replied. So basically he would record an hour or so of original music, and sell the only copy to strangers for a pound. I just find that really inspiring.

    Magic stuff! I'd have bought a stack of those! :)

    Absolutely. I LOVE that story. The value of art, pointlessness, manufacturing, ephemera, all the good things in one nutshell. In some other parallel universe Paul is a Gandhi figure, revered and rightly so....

    I've known a lot of very talented musicians over the years, but he's inspired me to create (not just music) stuff more than anyone else. Forget about if what you're doing is 'good enough', or if it's not going to please the mass market - if something in life causes a creative itch then scratch it, and turn it into a thing, and someone somewhere will get it. He's skint, a bit mad, but has spent his life doing what he enjoys. And that's what we all want really.

    That's what I love about Soundcloud and iOS music - you can join in and share your creations with like minded souls.

    @richiehoop I copied across some of the tapes he was going to sell onto CD on my occasional visits, so he had copies. He hasn't got a CD player...but at least he has them, and has said he's happy for me to work on them or share them online so I can PM you a link if you're interested. Careful though, it's crazy stuff....

  • @crony said:
    I finally bought the app 3 hours ago, because I felt their was no satanists behind all this...Just Japanese guys that needs some sleep !... :D
    I also want to support them for their next release with AB (that brings IAA for "free") , Link (comes "free" with AB also ?) and exporting...

    I think Ableton Link SDK needs to be integrated too. Though now that it's open source perhaps there's something the Audiobus folks could do to make a streamlined dev path for the whole kit!?
    @Sebastian ?

  • edited September 2016

    I dunno... I can play with the app, make a tune, play it back, have a little fun, then run it into Logic if I want to keep it.

    As far as data collected... unless they can access my banking and/or credit card information... I'm not too bothered. So they collect info on which device I'm using, which browser I'm using, etc. Why should I care?

    Google is capturing way more information on my habits, searches, etc. You add that to all the data captured by website cookies, the data I've willfully given away on instagram, twitter, facebook, various forums, etc. And, they're all reselling it to advertisers. My data is already out there whether I like it or not. Besides, I'm not so sure my data is really all that valuable anyway.

    If they're not stealing my money and/or identity... then I don't care. If they are, then Apple's got some 'splainin' to do.

  • Yah I don't care about data collection.

  • edited September 2016

    Yah, if the disclaimer had read:
    "All your data are belong to us"1
    Then we all would have chuckled and moved on ;)

    Seriously though, all webapps store data in the cloud by their very nature. Most don't even have disclaimers. Most disclaimers are scary if you actually read them. Coincidence?

Sign In or Register to comment.