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zooming in Cubasis

as the Steinberg forum needs to think about me posting over there (for what ever reason but this is a con for sure!!!) i'm gonna ask here: is there any way to zoom to fit a midi/audio clip or a loop region? it's driving me nuts to zoom around in Cubasis LE...
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  • LFSLFS
    edited November 2016

    Hi,

    Cubasis supports zooming via gesture in the arranger and editors, which has been improved for more accuracy with the release of Cubasis 2. Zoom to fit is not supported (feature has been added to backlog).

    Best,
    Lars

  • What'd be involved in making it 'Pro' size?

  • edited November 2016

    Mr Lars. Could you please add a way to turn off the automatic snapping to sample of L&R markers. It's driving me nuts, every time I hold a sample too long when all I'm trying to do is move it's position.

    Also, how about a way to import folders from Dropbox? Having to do it one sample at a time is a pain.

  • @Nkersov said:
    Mr Lars. Could you please add a way to turn off the automatic snapping to sample of L&R markers. It's driving me nuts, every time I hold a sample too long when all I'm trying to do is move it's position.

    ^^^ yeeeesssssssssss !!!

  • @Nkersov said:

    Also, how about a way to import folders from Dropbox? Having to do it one sample at a time is a pain.

    This is a Dropbox issue. I don't understand why they haven't added that feature yet.

  • edited November 2016

    @fjcblanco said:

    @Nkersov said:

    Also, how about a way to import folders from Dropbox? Having to do it one sample at a time is a pain.

    This is a Dropbox issue. I don't understand why they haven't added that feature yet.

    But doesn't Auria allow you to import multiple files from Dropbox in one go. I'm sure it does.

    And come to think of it so does AudioShare

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    But doesn't Auria allow you to import multiple files from Dropbox in one go. I'm sure it does.

    And come to think of it so does AudioShare

    Yes to both, but I was talking about importing into and from Cubasis. :) There's also the strangeness of having to authorise Dropbox every session, then go back into Cubasis, and tap Dropbox again. Why can't it remember it's authorised. Grrrrrrr.

  • @Nkersov said:
    Mr Lars. Could you please add a way to turn off the automatic snapping to sample of L&R markers. It's driving me nuts, every time I hold a sample too long when all I'm trying to do is move it's position.

    Also, how about a way to import folders from Dropbox? Having to do it one sample at a time is a pain.

    Hi Nikersov,

    Cubasis waits quite some time until setting the left and right markers via long tap on an event.

    Please give the following a try to move events:

    • Tap the event to be moved and lift your finger for a brief moment
    • Now move the event straight away

    Should work like a breeze and will not interfere with the long tap gesture that allows to automatically set markers to a chosen region the quickest possible way.

    Please give it a try and let me have your feedback.

    Best,
    Lars

  • @Paul16 said:

    @Nkersov said:
    Mr Lars. Could you please add a way to turn off the automatic snapping to sample of L&R markers. It's driving me nuts, every time I hold a sample too long when all I'm trying to do is move it's position.

    ^^^ yeeeesssssssssss !!!

    Hi Paul,

    Please see my comment above and give it a try.

    Thanks
    Lars

  • Hi @LFS

    would it be possible to give an option to turn off vertical snapping for the drawing of midi cc data? or just turn it off altogether? the way it is, there is no way to put certain values like 1 and 2 because it is always snapping!

    the only way is to turn off horizontal snapping also. but how would you make say a program change from 1 to 2 after two bars and then to another value after four bars? you would need snapping to bars on but vertical snapping (snapping to zero) off.

    in fact, I don't even know if there is a use case where one would want vertical snapping on. ( "the first two patches in this synth are so bad, thank god Cubasis' snapping behaviour prevents me from putting these values in")

  • edited November 2016

    @LFS said:
    Please give the following a try to move events:

    • Tap the event to be moved and lift your finger for a brief moment
    • Now move the event straight away

    Should work like a breeze and will not interfere with the long tap gesture that allows to automatically set markers to a chosen region the quickest possible way.

    Please give it a try and let me have your feedback.

    Best,
    Lars

    >

    Already tried that, Mr Lars, and the problem occurs with fine positioning. Obviously, no one wants horrible gaps of silence between loops.

    So, doing as you suggest sometimes results in the loop matching up perfectly, but can equally result in it being just a fraction short, or too far to the left, crashing over the preceding loop.

    The only way I've found to rectify this is to pinch and zoom the view to get in really close, then keep my finger on the loop I need to move, micro positioning it until it is exactly right. This, of course, activates the L&R markers.

    Still loving Cubasis. It is my IOS DAW of choice, and a fabulous quality app....but I'd still like to be able to turn off those pesky L&R markers.

  • @Nkersov said:

    @LFS said:
    Please give the following a try to move events:

    • Tap the event to be moved and lift your finger for a brief moment
    • Now move the event straight away

    Should work like a breeze and will not interfere with the long tap gesture that allows to automatically set markers to a chosen region the quickest possible way.

    Please give it a try and let me have your feedback.

    Best,
    Lars

    >

    Already tried that, Mr Lars, and the problem occurs with fine positioning. Obviously, no one wants horrible gaps of silence between loops.

    So, doing as you suggest sometimes results in the loop matching up perfectly, but can equally result in it being just a fraction short, or too far to the left, crashing over the preceding loop.

    The only way I've found to rectify this is to pinch and zoom the view to get in really close, then keep my finger on the loop I need to move, micro positioning it until it is exactly right. This, of course, activates the L&R markers.

    Still loving Cubasis. It is my IOS DAW of choice, and a fabulous quality app....but I'd still like to be able to turn off those pesky L&R markers.

    It's not working as you describe for me, @Nkersov. If I tap, lift my finger, then start moving it around, I can hold it as long as I want without the markers changing, regardless of snap setting. This is a case where a video would come in handy.

  • LFSLFS
    edited November 2016

    @nick said:
    Hi @LFS

    would it be possible to give an option to turn off vertical snapping for the drawing of midi cc data? or just turn it off altogether? the way it is, there is no way to put certain values like 1 and 2 because it is always snapping!

    the only way is to turn off horizontal snapping also. but how would you make say a program change from 1 to 2 after two bars and then to another value after four bars? you would need snapping to bars on but vertical snapping (snapping to zero) off.

    in fact, I don't even know if there is a use case where one would want vertical snapping on. ( "the first two patches in this synth are so bad, thank god Cubasis' snapping behaviour prevents me from putting these values in")

    Simply setting grid to "off" in the top menu bar should get you there.

    Best,
    Lars

  • @aaronpc said:
    It's not working as you describe for me, @Nkersov. If I tap, lift my finger, then start moving it around, I can hold it as long as I want without the markers changing, regardless of snap setting. This is a case where a video would come in handy.

    >

    Sorry, @aaronpc, I'm not trying to be a clever dick, but how can you move anything around once you've lifted your finger?

  • edited November 2016

    Np. Guess I wasn't clear, but it's as Lars said— first you select a clip with a tap, then touch and immediately drag the clip to move it around. The LR markers stay put for me.

  • edited November 2016

    @LFS said:

    @nick said:
    Hi @LFS

    would it be possible to give an option to turn off vertical snapping for the drawing of midi cc data? or just turn it off altogether? the way it is, there is no way to put certain values like 1 and 2 because it is always snapping!

    the only way is to turn off horizontal snapping also. but how would you make say a program change from 1 to 2 after two bars and then to another value after four bars? you would need snapping to bars on but vertical snapping (snapping to zero) off.

    in fact, I don't even know if there is a use case where one would want vertical snapping on. ( "the first two patches in this synth are so bad, thank god Cubasis' snapping behaviour prevents me from putting these values in")

    Simply setting grid to "off" in the top menu bar should get you there.

    Best,
    Lars

    mh, I am nut sure you understand my problem. As I wrote above, I can turn off snapping altogether but that does not allow me to do what I want to do. using a value of 1, then change it to 2 after four measures.
    OK, I can take out a ruler, draw a line of 1 across 4 measures then carefully draw to 2 etc. :neutral:
    Do you see what I mean?

  • edited November 2016

    @nick said:

    @LFS said:

    @nick said:
    Hi @LFS

    would it be possible to give an option to turn off vertical snapping for the drawing of midi cc data? or just turn it off altogether? the way it is, there is no way to put certain values like 1 and 2 because it is always snapping!

    the only way is to turn off horizontal snapping also. but how would you make say a program change from 1 to 2 after two bars and then to another value after four bars? you would need snapping to bars on but vertical snapping (snapping to zero) off.

    in fact, I don't even know if there is a use case where one would want vertical snapping on. ( "the first two patches in this synth are so bad, thank god Cubasis' snapping behaviour prevents me from putting these values in")

    Simply setting grid to "off" in the top menu bar should get you there.

    Best,
    Lars

    mh, I am nut sure you understand my problem. As I wrote above, I can turn off snapping altogether but that does not allow me to do what I want to do. using a value of 1, then change it to 2 after four measures.
    OK, I can take out a ruler, draw a line of 1 across 4 measures then carefully draw to 2 etc. :neutral:
    Do you see what I mean?

    I'm not sure I get what you're after, but let's see: are you trying to have the automation value jump from one value to another without ramping? That is actually something I would like as well. In many Daws' automation lanes, when you have one event(1), then another(2) three bars later, there is no averaging— it just is one value, then switches to the other. In Cubasis' implementation, it draws a line from one to the other, averaging the values as it goes along. The only way to make it seem as if it is switching values is to draw the first value right up close to the second and make the ramp as short as possible. Capiche?

    [Edit] It looks like you can have it switch, but you have to do it a certain way— 1. Set the grid to bars 2. Draw your first value (1) somewhere on the timeline. 3. Add another marker for the same value (1) three measures on, then one more marker one measure beyond that at the second value (2). 4. Using the select tool, grab that last marker (2) and drag it to one measure earlier in the timeline so that it's above the other. No ramps. So it looks like you can't draw value switching, but you can make it with the Select tool after the fact.

  • @aaronpc said:
    Np. Guess I wasn't clear, but it's as Lars said— first you select a clip with a tap, then touch and immediately drag the clip to move it around. The LR markers stay put for me.

    >

    Okay, got that and it's what I'm doing. At some point I may need to let go, to resize what I'm looking at. But then following the same process, tap on the loop to select then touch and drag, at some point those L&R markers snap to it.

  • @aaronpc and @LFS
    Thanks for trying to understand.
    All I am trying to communicate is a frustration with Cubasis that the cc values always snap to zero and to 127. There is no advantage to this snapping but it makes it impossible to draw in certain values, like 1 and 2 and 125 for example. Turning grid off does not solve the problem because turning grid off initiates free form drawing mode.

  • @nick said:

    @aaronpc and @LFS
    Thanks for trying to understand.
    All I am trying to communicate is a frustration with Cubasis that the cc values always snap to zero and to 127. There is no advantage to this snapping but it makes it impossible to draw in certain values, like 1 and 2 and 125 for example. Turning grid off does not solve the problem because turning grid off initiates free form drawing mode.

    Ah well. At least I learned something for myself. What CC values are you trying to change? Some, such as mute, are supposed to only have on(127) and off(0) values.

  • @aaronpc said:

    @nick said:

    @aaronpc and @LFS
    Thanks for trying to understand.
    All I am trying to communicate is a frustration with Cubasis that the cc values always snap to zero and to 127. There is no advantage to this snapping but it makes it impossible to draw in certain values, like 1 and 2 and 125 for example. Turning grid off does not solve the problem because turning grid off initiates free form drawing mode.

    Ah well. At least I learned something for myself. What CC values are you trying to change? Some, such as mute, are supposed to only have on(127) and off(0) values.

    well one thing I wanted to try is change the articulation of an instrument through program change. like change a legato violin to staccato at a certain point in the melody etc. maybe that is not the best way to do it anyway, I don't know, it is just something I wanted to try. that is where I noticed I can't change to certain programs because of the snapping behaviour. :neutral:
    and yes, for cc's that can only have two values, snapping to 0 and 127 is certainly appropriate :smile:

  • edited November 2016

    @LFS from Steinberg: I'm beggin' you', for all sakes, PLEASE TURN OFF this annoying Loop region snapping when touching a wave in a mini update soon, best yesterday :-(

    I'm getting NUTS over here, working on a remix!

  • Hi all,

    hm, long tap on an event should not cause any problems at all.

    Please give these steps a try:

    • Select an event via short tap
    • Lift finger for a short moment

    From here...

    • Move the selected event
    • Tap upper or lower handle to change event length, introduce a fade etc.

    Doing it this way, L/R locater position will never change...
    It does change if you tap / hold and unselected event.

    Best,
    Lars

  • unfortunately Lars, that doesn't seem to be the case .. i've tried the procedure you describe and still get the left/right markers moving to the selected clip. if it's not supposed to happen then it's a bug..

  • number one feature request for cubasis: snapping preferences!

    long tap to snap ON/OFF
    vertical snapping ON/OFF

    :smile:

  • I really don't think you're going to get any traction on this unless you can show the problem in action with a video. I don't see any problems on this end, and the recent update in V2 solved all my zooming issues generally.

  • edited November 2016

    The problem has been adequately detailed. It is now up to the developer to decide whether to address this or not. Ultimately, if it does not get fixed, those of us who this inconveniences have the option to switch to Auria Pro.

  • For me, this is what happens.
    I select a region, lift, move it, lift to see if it lines up, moves it again, just a little and SNAP!! The loop locators snap to the region.

    Seems that if i move more than 1/4 bar its fine, but if i move it less than that, theb locaters snap..

    Made video, but dont know hov to upload it.

  • works as described over here...

  • Need video. Words fail all of us but @JohnnyGoodyear

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