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432 vs. 440 hz : Far Fetched & Fun Info?
I like these silly things some times just for shits and gigs and thought some of yall would dig this.
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Oh no, here we go.....
I actually perform in 432 quite a bit, not for any deep reason but because some of my wife's (non-tuneable) ethnic instrument's fundamental tones arbitrarily fall into this frequency's reference pitch temperament. Right now I'm actually working in 446, as I'm working with another of her instruments.
It took a bit of work to get everything lined up (and it limits the choice of synths somewhat) but overall iOS is great for this!
I like Rick Beato's take in this subject:
I don't think pitching an audio file down to 432 is going to do anything. It's about retuning the scale to A = 432 in some Pythagorean, non equal tempered thing right? So all the instruments in a composition would have to be properly tuned and recorded that way, so the intervals would be all be slightly different, contributing to an overall different effect.
Exactly. That's my understanding also.
Somewhat doable with ThumbJam!
It's not about the reference pitch at all, it's about the formation of overtones (in an ultra-super-mega abbreviated statement).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440_(pitch_standard
i like to compose with the pink noise trick. I just turn on the noise and make sure I can barely hear my synths above it and then I jam. You never know what you're gonna get, but 5 out of 10 times, it's not terrible
I'll use whatever David Icke is currently playing.
Football you say? Too old for that, my goalkeeping days are done.
I, for one, welcome our reptilian overlords.
Would be nice to hear music performed ONLY in 432hz, with no other frequencies present in the song. And ofc that frequency player so loud and with such an alien technology that the pitch doesent change even when it hits the tissue in my ears, resonates on my skull etc.
Like a huge universe-consuming sinewave @ 432Hz?
It's easy to get a dizzy head by creating a stereo sine-wave file where one ear plays at 431Hz and the other at 432Hz. Ops that's when bump into into the quirky stuff called 'HemiSync' / 'Binaural Beating' or as I like to call it brainfck deluxe
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/12/21/heres-why-you-should-convert-your-music-to-432hz/
Paradigm shift perhaps?
That site looks like legit science
Yep. Maybe then this 432hz would be able to show its magic
I have nothing against conceptual music. In fact, it can be very inspiring for musicians to have something to serve as a guiding rationale when composing music. It's the pseudo-science thing that grinds my gears. I need a bit more than out-of-context quotes full of new-age words from famous substance-users to be convinced of this universal frequency stuff. Like, a peer-reviewed publication in Scientific American or Science Journal.
And since signal theory is one of the world's most studied scientific subjects it shouldn't be long before something is discovered and published if there is even a hint of truth in this story. Until then I consider 432Hz just a creative way to make your own life harder
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I'm up for attempting writing some work @ 432hz - why not?
I like a challenge - and after all, we are all just working with vibrations / soundwaves.
Nothing to be ashamed about
What is legit science mate? That which creates nuclear bombs, antidepressants etc?
Interesting to gauge everyone's point of view on this. I've always seen it as more of a marketing thing, personally.
You are of course entitled to opinions...but before you dismiss the 432 issue I suggest you research it further.
Science itself agrees that everything is energy and affects everything it touches in different ways right? Same with sound....
Science created chemotherapy which is manipulating energy to try and kill cancer cells . In the same way, sound, depending on the pitch, frequency, genre, mood or whatever, does affect us in different ways. Some sounds agitate, some please..some make us happy and some sad etc
If a violin is not tuned properly it will grate our ears...especially if we are used to tuned violins. But if we grew up hearing untuned instruments then likely we would be accustomed to that's how violins are. Same with 444hz , we are used to it...
Another article that seems less new agey lol
https://ask.audio/articles/5-reasons-to-consider-tuning-to-432hz-for-meditation-music
Also many professional ambient producers who don't hug trees or use crystals record at 432
Ok, I may add a 432Hz mode in my next plugin for those who enjoy using it. I may even try it myself to see if my sceptisism is justified.
To go a bit deeper than my last posts:
Definitely interesting to explore some of the surrounding discussion on this topic, but it's hard to have a rational chat about it on the net, as people very quickly seem to 'pick a side/get militant/occupy a morale high ground' or however you want to describe that particular phenomenon.
As far as I've observed (through my own study of overtones), at 432 hz the frequency of notes match more regularly to round numbers inside our numerical system (for example the overtones of an F# fall exactly on 45, 90, 180, 360, 540 hz etc.). Whether this means anything deep is open to interpretation. Our own numerical system is purely arbitrary, after all.
If anyone is interested, here's the table I made of Saydyy's most commonly used instruments, which I keep for reference. I didn't write the reference pitches down as I added them later and didn't export it to Dropbox yet! The 'No Hands' instrument fits into 432 temperament. The interesting thing for me is that as my main instruments are strung instruments which I activate the overtones of, the character and tonal quality of the instrument varies a lot between the different temperaments. The slight slackening or tightening of the strings really has a profound effect on the balance and character of the overtones.
I also tune the strings minutely differently depending on what keys a piece is in. It's impossible to keep all overtones in tune all the time, but you can get it pretty close inside a limited tonal environment.
I'm working with the 'Deer' instrument today, which exists in a 446 temperament.
Fine Tune or reference pitch (such as in ThumbJam) please! (Please please please). 432 is just one point in a linear scale.