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Xequence midi sequencer ?

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  • edited October 2017

    @JonLewis said:
    @SevenSystems I’ve only been at it for two days but I’m really digging this. Any chance of incorporating a pitch bend wheel?

    Hi, nice to hear you're happy :) You can just add a Pitch controller yourself
    by opening the Instruments screen (MIDI icon), then tapping the cogwheel of the instrument you want to add a pitch wheel to, then tap a free controller slot at the bottom and choose "Pitch".

    Then on the Keyboard screen, just tap the "CC" button to show controllers, and bam, there's your pitch wheel B)

  • Ah brilliant! I hadn’t really come to grips with the controllers yet. Thanks!

    One last nice-to-have: left and right arrow buttons to instantly jump up or down and octave on the in-app keyboard? Sometimes while improvising it’s hard to quickly activate scrolling-scroll up-hit desired note without coming to a full stop.

  • @JonLewis said:
    One last nice-to-have: left and right arrow buttons to instantly jump up or down and octave on the in-app keyboard?

    That would certainly be doable... will put it on the todo list. For now, you could enable dual keyboards and just put the upper keys one octave higher than the lower ones. But I'm sure you knew that :)

  • Yup. Love the double keyboard. Wish all apps had that.

  • Would love the ability to long press on the midi track to move it up or down especially on the iPhone.

    @SevenSystems said:

    @JonLewis said:
    One last nice-to-have: left and right arrow buttons to instantly jump up or down and octave on the in-app keyboard?

    That would certainly be doable... will put it on the todo list. For now, you could enable dual keyboards and just put the upper keys one octave higher than the lower ones. But I'm sure you knew that :)

  • @SevenSystems I'm in love with this app. Only took me 5 min to buy the unlimited. One thing I can't figure out is how to merge overlapping parts? I was recording drums with the selection looped and realized it had created part layers for each pass. But now I can't seem to access anything but he last take recorded. Any way to fold these into each other?

    Another thing that's either a strong argument for link or and example of my incompetence: tried to set up a track sending a sync to Ruismaker, but it's doesn't send a start signal. If ruismaker is already playing, then it locks in and starts over with the Xequence clock no problem. I know you'd normally just plug in the drums in the piano roll, but ruismaker has a unique Euclidean sequencer I'd want to take advantage of. Not a dealbreaker of course. Just wondering if there's a step I'm missing.

  • edited October 2017

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Would love the ability to long press on the midi track to move it up or down especially on the iPhone.

    I'll consider it, thanks for the suggestion.

    @DCJ said:
    @SevenSystems I'm in love with this app. Only took me 5 min to buy the unlimited. One thing I can't figure out is how to merge overlapping parts?

    Thanks very much, appreciate it. You can merge overlapping parts by selecting them all (easiest is to just do a quick rectangle selection over them (tap and hold)), and then in the "Magic Wand" menu, choose "Join". Although what you say is interesting -- normally, Xequence should only create a single part, and then automatically merge all events recorded into that single part during all loop repetitions. Are you sure it created separate overlapping parts for each repetition?

    Another thing that's either a strong argument for link or and example of my incompetence: tried to set up a track sending a sync to Ruismaker, but it's doesn't send a start signal.

    Thanks for pointing me to Ruismaker, will test that one and have a fix ready for the next update. Every app and hardware device implements MIDI sync slightly differently and we couldn't catch all of them for the initial release of the app, but will fix along the way! :)

  • While I'm on the quest of finer advanced timings - I thought I read Xequence can nudge tracks forward off the grid?
    Its not in your features list.....
    Maybe I was hallucinating? (again)

  • @Mayo said:
    While I'm on the quest of finer advanced timings - I thought I read Xequence can nudge tracks forward off the grid?

    Yeah, that's possible. When you tap the cogwheel button on a track, you'll find a "Delay" setting, which you can set to positive or negative values (it goes from -200 to +200 milliseconds).

  • edited October 2017

    200 milliseconds is enough to make stuff groove. ( which is 400 milliseconds difference between a kik and snr )
    Great news for humans!

  • So... Can I record a midi track into Xequence from another app - and then get into this delay feature?
    Or do I need to import midi files to do this?

  • @Mayo said:
    So... Can I record a midi track into Xequence from another app - and then get into this delay feature?
    Or do I need to import midi files to do this?

    Yes, you can record MIDI from external apps "live" IF they support MIDI Out. To do this, enable "MIDI In" in Xequence (in the Settings screen "..." menu at the top left), you might have to fiddle with the "Sources:" button (either choose "Any", or the "source app" if it appears in the popup), and also with the corresponding MIDI Out menu in your source app.

    Once you have that set up, just hit Record in Xequence, and check if it does record the note data from the source app. Of course you should set both to the same tempo. You can also try to sync them automatically if the source app supports MIDI Clock Slave. To do this, create an instrument in Xequence, select your source app as the Destination, and enable "Sync", and also enable MIDI Clock Slave in the source app. That way, when you press record in Xequence, your source app should theoretically start playing in time with Xequence, and everything will be spot on in Xequence's timeline.

  • DCJDCJ
    edited October 2017

    @SevenSystems said:

    @DCJ said:
    @SevenSystems I'm in love with this app. Only took me 5 min to buy the unlimited. One thing I can't figure out is how to merge overlapping parts?

    Thanks very much, appreciate it. You can merge overlapping parts by selecting them all (easiest is to just do a quick rectangle selection over them (tap and hold)), and then in the "Magic Wand" menu, choose "Join". Although what you say is interesting -- normally, Xequence should only create a single part, and then automatically merge all events recorded into that single part during all loop repetitions. Are you sure it created separate overlapping parts for each repetition?

    Another thing that's either a strong argument for link or and example of my incompetence: tried to set up a track sending a sync to Ruismaker, but it's doesn't send a start signal.

    Thanks for pointing me to Ruismaker, will test that one and have a fix ready for the next update. Every app and hardware device implements MIDI sync slightly differently and we couldn't catch all of them for the initial release of the app, but will fix along the way! :)

    Ah! I tried the join option before but hadn't selected them all properly I guess. Honestly it's hard to see how many separate parts there are overlapped, but I was recording passes with AB external keyboard in the arranger view. It's possible that I had manually made a clip before the passes? I'm not able to get it to recreate the overlapping so it was either a short glitch or something weird I did.

    Someone on this thread was having an issue with a delay in start for their Korg Volga and I can confirm the same on mine, but there was the same delay on my MPC1000. I know that fix is in the works so I'm not stressing. Also more than willing to test scenarios for you. This could be a serious contender for a main hardware sequencing hub as well!

  • @DCJ: Thanks, yes that's probably the exact same issue and we should have a fix ready for the next update. :)

  • To everyone having problems with missing notes while recording MIDI from other apps: this is a bug in Xequence and has already been found and fixed. The fix will be in the next update!

  • edited October 2017

    I just bought it and I can see a lot of potential in it. I noticed a few bugs and I have some feature requests :)

    When setting up midi input (it never worked with "Any" source), most of the time my controller doesn't work. I have to close and open the app multiple times until I can see the midi button flashing. I have a korg microkey connected through USB. I'll see if I can reproduce this consistently or if there's something wrong with my setup.

    When holding a note on an external controller and selecting another track on a different midi channel, the previous track remains with a stuck note.

    Ableton link as others mentioned!

    Display the notes while recording. Now they refresh at the end.

    Please add a basic metronome. The midi solution is not very useful with an external mono synth. I would prefer not to load another app just for this.

    The UX could use some love. It relies on a lot of submenus and on screen buttons for basic operations. Auxy is often cited as one of the best note editors out there, and it could be a great source for inspiration :)

    Scene/page mode as an alternative to the linear timeline. I can simulate a scene mode using the loop function, but it doesn't quantise the play head jump when choosing another loop. Maybe an option in the menu to wait for the current end loop marker before jumping to the newly chosen loop?
    Thanks!

  • Hi @LemurFlight,

    When setting up midi input (it never worked with "Any" source), most of the time my controller doesn't work. I have to close and open the app multiple times until I can see the midi button flashing. I have a korg microkey connected through USB.

    There can be cases where Xequence only recognizes new MIDI sources (apps or devices) when you leave it (press the home button) and then re-enter it (tap the homescreen icon again). A fix is already planned for the next update :smile: Thanks for reporting.

    When holding a note on an external controller and selecting another track on a different midi channel, the previous track remains with a stuck note.

    Good catch! Will fix this (and a few more similar edge cases) for the next update as well.

    Ableton link as others mentioned!

    Will probably be added together with the "big" Audiobus update.

    Display the notes while recording. Now they refresh at the end.

    We'll see what we can do :smile:

    Please add a basic metronome. The midi solution is not very useful with an external mono synth. I would prefer not to load another app just for this.

    On the list already...

    The UX could use some love. It relies on a lot of submenus and on screen buttons for basic operations. Auxy is often cited as one of the best note editors out there, and it could be a great source for inspiration :)

    Can you give a few examples of UX that you think should be done differently? If you mean that Xequence overly relies on buttons and not so much on gestures -- that's intentional ;) I think many apps out there (including iOS itself) suffer from "Gesture overload". There's a million things that can be done with obscure gestures, with no hints in the UI at all what to swipe when -- we actively tried to avoid this in Xequence and instead give each feature a visible representation in the UI. Maybe it's a philosophical thing, or maybe I'm just too old at 38. B)

    Scene/page mode as an alternative to the linear timeline. I can simulate a scene mode using the loop function, but it doesn't quantise the play head jump when choosing another loop. Maybe an option in the menu to wait for the current end loop marker before jumping to the newly chosen loop?

    I will be honest here: There's so many live loopers and scene-based sequencers for iOS, both sample-based and for MIDI, that do these kinds of things well, Xequence has really been designed as the opposite, and its roadmap is not headed for live use or looping, so I can't guarantee that this will be implemented. But I agree having it as an additional way of arranging / working would be nice.

    Thanks!

    Thank you for the problem reports and suggestions!

  • edited October 2017

    @SevenSystems said:
    Hi @LemurFlight,

    When setting up midi input (it never worked with "Any" source), most of the time my controller doesn't work. I have to close and open the app multiple times until I can see the midi button flashing. I have a korg microkey connected through USB.

    There can be cases where Xequence only recognizes new MIDI sources (apps or devices) when you leave it (press the home button) and then re-enter it (tap the homescreen icon again). A fix is already planned for the next update :smile: Thanks for reporting.

    When holding a note on an external controller and selecting another track on a different midi channel, the previous track remains with a stuck note.

    Good catch! Will fix this (and a few more similar edge cases) for the next update as well.

    Ableton link as others mentioned!

    Will probably be added together with the "big" Audiobus update.

    Display the notes while recording. Now they refresh at the end.

    We'll see what we can do :smile:

    Please add a basic metronome. The midi solution is not very useful with an external mono synth. I would prefer not to load another app just for this.

    On the list already...

    The UX could use some love. It relies on a lot of submenus and on screen buttons for basic operations. Auxy is often cited as one of the best note editors out there, and it could be a great source for inspiration :)

    Can you give a few examples of UX that you think should be done differently? If you mean that Xequence overly relies on buttons and not so much on gestures -- that's intentional ;) I think many apps out there (including iOS itself) suffer from "Gesture overload". There's a million things that can be done with obscure gestures, with no hints in the UI at all what to swipe when -- we actively tried to avoid this in Xequence and instead give each feature a visible representation in the UI. Maybe it's a philosophical thing, or maybe I'm just too old at 38. B)

    Scene/page mode as an alternative to the linear timeline. I can simulate a scene mode using the loop function, but it doesn't quantise the play head jump when choosing another loop. Maybe an option in the menu to wait for the current end loop marker before jumping to the newly chosen loop?

    I will be honest here: There's so many live loopers and scene-based sequencers for iOS, both sample-based and for MIDI, that do these kinds of things well, Xequence has really been designed as the opposite, and its roadmap is not headed for live use or looping, so I can't guarantee that this will be implemented. But I agree having it as an additional way of arranging / working would be nice.

    Thanks!

    Thank you for the problem reports and suggestions!

    Thanks for the reply and for your commitment to this great app!

    I will come back with more detailed answers regarding the UX part. If the sub menu holds only two functions, or if the functions are context sensitive (only used in a specific window), these can be turned into toggles. Often used buttons should be present at all times.

    In general I have no problem with button instead of gesture behavior, but ideally the buttons should be directly exposed, and their placement should be laid out in way where one hand can choose the function and the other does the operation. If anything, I find it a bit slow having to switch between selection and draw mode when I want to add new notes.

    Regarding the scene mode, this could be done by creating an empty track at the top and then using clips and loop points. The only thing missing is play head jump quantisation. If you are familiar with ableton, there you can set the playhead to be quantised by any amount (1bar, 4 bars, etc), which makes the playhead jump only at the end of the set amount. This would be very useful in a live/session environment.

  • edited October 2017

    @LemurFlight said:
    I will come back with more detailed answers regarding the UX part. If the sub menu holds only two functions, or if the functions are context sensitive (only used in a specific window), these can be turned into toggles. Often used buttons should be present at all times.

    Of course you're right in that, for example, the "Zoom" menu (3 options) could be put directly into the toolbar (using icons instead of labels) -- on iPad! Keep in mind that the app also has to fit all the options on the 4" screen of an iPhone ;) But yes, many parts of the UI could still be optimized for the larger iPad screen and this is definitely on our todo list.

    Regarding the scene mode, this could be done by creating an empty track at the top and then using clips and loop points. The only thing missing is play head jump quantisation.

    Yes, I have a rough idea :) Quantizing the playhead jump wouldn't be too hard, but you would get a slight glitch anyway because due to implementation details, abruptly changing the playhead position restarts the MIDI queue. There's special code that deals with the normal song loop (where jumping is "perfect"), but this wouldn't work for arbitrary playhead jumps. Otherwise, great suggestion!

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @LemurFlight said:
    I will come back with more detailed answers regarding the UX part. If the sub menu holds only two functions, or if the functions are context sensitive (only used in a specific window), these can be turned into toggles. Often used buttons should be present at all times.

    Of course you're right in that, for example, the "Zoom" menu (3 options) could be put directly into the toolbar (using icons instead of labels) -- on iPad! Keep in mind that the app also has to fit all the options on the 4" screen of an iPhone ;) But yes, many parts of the UI could still be optimized for the larger iPad screen and this is definitely on our todo list.

    Regarding the scene mode, this could be done by creating an empty track at the top and then using clips and loop points. The only thing missing is play head jump quantisation.

    Yes, I have a rough idea :) Quantizing the playhead jump wouldn't be too hard, but you would get a slight glitch anyway because due to implementation details, abruptly changing the playhead position restarts the MIDI queue. There's special code that deals with the normal song loop (where jumping is "perfect"), but this wouldn't work for arbitrary playhead jumps. Otherwise, great suggestion!

    Ah you are right, I didn't think about smaller devices :( Currently using a ipad pro.

    I think that Xequence can become very attractive to people sequencing external gear and recording sessions, as long there is a workaround where you can loop through parts and not lose the beat/timing.

  • Love the idea of this app, i.e. a midi sequencer with small footprint on the device ,without useless stuff or a strange concept and that also runs on iPhone (was previously trying use Midi Pro or Genome on iPad and other such apps that did not get developed further/ had lots of problems).

    I noticed that this one does not support midi file import/ export, which is what keeps me from trying also this one.

  • @LemurFlight said:
    I think that Xequence can become very attractive to people sequencing external gear and recording sessions, as long there is a workaround where you can loop through parts and not lose the beat/timing.

    If I ever re-implement the MIDI queue to handle abrupt position changes efficiently, I will be sure to add that!

    @neinneinnein said:
    I noticed that this one does not support midi file import/ export, which is what keeps me from trying also this one.

    MIDI file import/export is on the "short-list" of features and should be available in the next 2-3 months max. :)

  • Am I just lost here? Once I go into Piano Roll I have no ability to go back to the "main" screen that I can see. The manual explains pretty intuitive stuff but a basic UI walkthrough would rule

  • @anomieholiday said:
    Am I just lost here? Once I go into Piano Roll I have no ability to go back to the "main" screen that I can see. The manual explains pretty intuitive stuff but a basic UI walkthrough would rule

    The checkmark button in the bottom right corner :o

  • I am perhaps not the brightest bulb

    • although I SWEAR I hit that... it only worked after you told me it did!
  • I’m so happy to see our dear developers actively interested in our ideas. This is truly as good as it gets!

  • @anomieholiday said:
    I am perhaps not the brightest bulb

    • although I SWEAR I hit that... it only worked after you told me it did!

    I've just sneaked in through the built-in backdoor and secretly activated it while you didn't look ;)

  • Overall though, A UI guide would be helpful or a tutorial video.

    The workflow is very easy for the most part and the ability to enter midi for au devices with cubasis like precision ON IPHONE is way sexy.

    Still, using on iPhone the interface is a little cramped and a tutorial video would just be killer.

    VERY happy with my purchase, will get the iAP when I hit my limitations or just to support you.

  • For anyone on the fence, the IAP upgrade to unlimited tracks is just $5.99!!! Greatest deal on this amazing Sequencer app!

  • @anomieholiday said:
    Still, using on iPhone the interface is a little cramped and a tutorial video would just be killer.

    I hear there might be something coming in that regard! :)

    VERY happy with my purchase, will get the iAP when I hit my limitations or just to support you.

    Thanks!

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