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Gadget users: with all the options available today, what keeps you coming back to Gadget?

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  • It revolutionized music production for me. I have hundreds of songs composed in gadget.... full meaty compositions that i can instantly load and mess around with. Quite frankly it's the fastest workflow i've ever experienced.... and the synths are dreamy (needs a groovebox and better sampler though!).
    There's nothing quite like it. The fact that you can see everything going on at once is amazing, and extremely functional.
    I'm trying to replicate my gadget workflow now on ableton live with push.... still not as smooth.
    I have all the iaas so if anyone needs help with those I'd be happy to give advice.
    To put it simply - Gadget is one of the most brilliant musical creation tools available to musicians. I use a lot of other apps and many in conjunction with gadget... but gadget remains my go to app. If only midi out was in it (dreaming....).
    Finally i would add this; with so many people daisy chaining umpteen physical controller to produce their sounds... gadget does it better, quicker and WAAAAAYYYY cheaper. It's IOS best musical app - hands down!

  • The only thing that keeps me going back to Gadget is the decent MIDI implementation for ODYSSEi that the standalone app lacks. If I had to choose a desert island app, Gadget would probably be a contender, but why would I ever need to make that choice? The beauty of iOS production is that there's always a shiny new app to satisfy my gear lust at a fraction of the cost.

  • Gadget is by far the easiest way of actually making tracks (for all the reasons mentioned) with the small pockets of time I have, using mainly my iPhone 6 Plus.

    And the audio gadgets now mean that if I want to add bit of Animoog or Borderlands or LayR or something Gadget can’t quite attain - this is now feasible (if a little fiddly).

    MonoPoly is my favourite synth in Gadget. It’s amazing.

    The only time I don’t use Gadget is when I’m sourcing sounds elsewhere (to import), using midi generating apps like Future Drummer into Gadget, or if I want a live set-up with hardware and some apps that are better for a live setup eg Borderlands, Samplr, Werkbench etc...

  • I think liking and using Gadget must also depend on how one works and the kinds of music you make. If you're the kind who plunked around on a piano imagining what it was going to sound like when the band or orchestra played it, Gadget is an amazingly versatile sketchpad. OTOH, if you're creating music for a Model 15, it's best to actually use a Model 15, and if you need instant access to all your sound to make music, then you have to deal with more complex set-ups. Recording audio tracks? I don't, but GarageBand is probably a better choice. Sample manipulation? Not critical to me, but why not BeatMaker 3? Are you used to starting something somewhere and then moving it somewhere else? Seeing where it's going but open to having it change and evolve and to finish it later? With more traditional composing, I take that as a norm. I don't need Gadget to be a complete DAW. It's what I've come to prefer on the relatively small and less powerful mobile device.

  • The only issue I do have with Gadget, is none of my user presets for Imono/Poly, Odyssei or IM1 stand alone versions show up in Gadget. IWavestation does but not the other 3, and I have a pretty sizable amount of presets in the stand alone versions, especially IMono/Poly.

  • Been a while, but, as far as coming back, I've been struggling with making progress for a song this month. Plenty of ideas, some half songs, some verses in need of melodies, too many bits of chorus etc etc and I've been in Auria and Beathawk and Cubasis and half a dozen other things with bits of things in them, all of which really made me remember and value what folks have said here already: You can go away from Gadget, walk back in and your studio's completely ready to go. Open that half song and the five different instruments are waiting just as you left them....this feels like a big deal after days of stumbling, but not building....

  • edited October 2017

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Been a while, but, as far as coming back, I've been struggling with making progress for a song this month. Plenty of ideas, some half songs, some verses in need of melodies, too many bits of chorus etc etc and I've been in Auria and Beathawk and Cubasis and half a dozen other things with bits of things in them, all of which really made me remember and value what folks have said here already: You can go away from Gadget, walk back in and your studio's completely ready to go. Open that half song and the five different instruments are waiting just as you left them....this feels like a big deal after days of stumbling, but not building....

    I think there's a benefit to re-arranging the old toolbox too - kickstarts fresh ideas. I used to do this by buying an app every Friday night, but since there's less new stuff coming out, and fewer coins in the coffers, I've been revisiting old kit.

    Egoist and Samplr have been this week's destinations (why the Bernard Cribbins don't I use these more often?), and I even got a SOTM out of it.

    Gadget is a whole other thing entirely. I've never used it to its full potential or finished a song. But unlike BM3 I can waltz in and it's all there ready to go. I've spent a fortune on it and the IAP's, and there's no excuse not to go back in.

    I think it's time.

  • Good question, never touched it since months now.

  • @Cib said:
    Good question, never touched it since months now.

    Worth a revisit.

    I forgot it works in AUM: after ten minutes of clicking about I had Gadget, and my other forgotten gem Egoist, belting out a very full-sounding track.

    I'm going to spend the next week creating clips to import into Maschine on the desktop, providing Mondays hurricane doesn't rip our dodgy roof off.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @Cib said:
    Good question, never touched it since months now.

    Worth a revisit.

    I forgot it works in AUM: after ten minutes of clicking about I had Gadget, and my other forgotten gem Egoist, belting out a very full-sounding track.

    I'm going to spend the next week creating clips to import into Maschine on the desktop, providing Mondays hurricane doesn't rip our dodgy roof off.

  • It's good to sketch ideas on and stem those out to something better i.e. LPX or reason to finish em. I still can't stand the sequencer in gadget...its impossible to be very organic on...everything doesn't start on the 1.

  • Tried the free Gadget but didn't like it that much for the paid one. So no, I never use Gadget. Prefer other apps with Audiobus, AUM etc.

  • For it's the option to use multiple instances of 'Korg Apps' that keeps me coming back to Gadget.
    (iM1/Darwin, iWavestation/Miltipas, Module/5 Gadgets, iOdyssey, iMonoPoly etc.)

    Once those apps go AUv3 we'd still need a host with 'good' automation to fully utilise them :)

  • Less screen tapping and routing, more playing.....an enjoyable experience.

  • Future potential

  • Ease and speed

  • It just works

  • It’s an Ableton sketchbook for me, same with Groovebox, BlocsWave, Koala, Patterning, TriqTraq, iKaossilator and other apps with project export.

    Usually use some combination of those in Audiobus and export the bits I don’t hate for arranging someday.

    • Still the fastest way to sketch an idea (almost like the first Auxy version)
    • Useful factory synths (Dublin, Phoenix, Chiangmai)
    • iWavestation (Milpitas) and iMonoPoly (Montpellier)
    • DrOctoRex (Stockholm)
    • MIDI out and simple audio clip recording
    • Working MIDI clock synchronization
  • edited January 2020

    1 Stability.. That’s why I’m hoping they don’t turn it into an AU host, just out of fear that it’ll upset the balance of the force. All my AU daws are somewhat unstable from time to time , while Gadget soldiers on like a well oiled machine.

    2 It’s the one environment I know inside and out more than any other. It’s comfort food to me.

    3 “Limitations breed creativity”. I love experimenting with it, pushing beyond its limits to coax new, unexpected sounds out of it..

  • edited January 2020

    @[Deleted User] said:
    However i think the effects section could use some improvement....maybe take ideas from syntronik.

    Would be awesome if they could license some effects algorithms from someone like Eventide or Toneboosters, offering them up as IAP. The current effects are serviceable but could definitely be a lot better. I also wish they’d open up more fx parameters to automation.

    Second and third priority would be an advanced sampler (like Ableton Simpler) and audio tracks. If Gadget 3 had all this and remained as stable as 2, it’d be near perfect to me.

  • Main reasons for me:
    -Scene mode (like no other IOS app), it’s just perfect.
    -Variety of synths and sounds
    -Easy to use
    -Robustness

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    edited January 2020

    @Eschatone said:
    1 Stability.. That’s why I’m hoping they don’t turn it into an AU host, just out of fear that it’ll upset the balance of the force. All my AU daws are somewhat unstable from time to time , while Gadget soldiers on like a well oiled machine.

    2 It’s the one environment I know inside and out more than any other. It’s comfort food to me.

    3 “Limitations breed creativity”. I love experimenting with it, pushing beyond its limits to coax new, unexpected sounds out of it..

    Exactly how I feel.
    Besides the diversity in sounds (got all iAPs) I also appreciate the graphic design of the different gadgets. They all have their own ‘character’ :) I think they’ve done a good job with that (expect Lisbon which animated background melts battery).

  • I use gadget every day an i mostly like that its very stable. Often when i work with au plugins in daws i get the wierdest problems and bugs that eat up to much of my time. I also like the the general workflow and the huge amount of presets.

    I really wish it had a better sampler and mix buses and more effects though...

  • i also really like that its simple and basic

  • I don't completely get the "fastest way of sketching a track" angle.

    Yes, that might be the case, but it is also easily possible to make complete tracks in Gadget that don't need any further work except maybe a bit of mastering. Which is also my biggest reason for coming back to Gadget again and again: it just makes me FINISH tracks, as opposed to some other DAWs, which let me fiddle around endlessly...

  • @LeonKowalski said:
    I don't completely get the "fastest way of sketching a track" angle.

    Yes, that might be the case, but it is also easily possible to make complete tracks in Gadget that don't need any further work except maybe a bit of mastering. Which is also my biggest reason for coming back to Gadget again and again: it just makes me FINISH tracks, as opposed to some other DAWs, which let me fiddle around endlessly...

    I suppose this is true if one write's music that never has held notes across sections.

    I find Gadget great for working up ideas and sketching -- and using it as an outboard synth rack -- but I could never use it for a completed track because of the structural limitations. But don't get me wrong. I think it's great for what I use it for. But I wouldn't be able to complete most compositions I do in it.

  • @LeonKowalski said:
    I don't completely get the "fastest way of sketching a track" angle.

    Yes, that might be the case, but it is also easily possible to make complete tracks in Gadget that don't need any further work except maybe a bit of mastering. Which is also my biggest reason for coming back to Gadget again and again: it just makes me FINISH tracks, as opposed to some other DAWs, which let me fiddle around endlessly...

    I've completed a number of tracks inside Gadget but sometimes I prefer to use alternatives when it comes to high-quality acoustic/electric pianos, drums, guitars, brass etc.
    I never went for the rather expensive IAPs (Module and the likes) because there are better options with more choices sound-wise. Mainly on desktop, sequenced by iPad apps.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @LeonKowalski said:
    I don't completely get the "fastest way of sketching a track" angle.

    Yes, that might be the case, but it is also easily possible to make complete tracks in Gadget that don't need any further work except maybe a bit of mastering. Which is also my biggest reason for coming back to Gadget again and again: it just makes me FINISH tracks, as opposed to some other DAWs, which let me fiddle around endlessly...

    I suppose this is true if one write's music that never has held notes across sections.

    Mine doesn’t. On the other hand mine often uses scenes where one instrument may have a repeat of 3 bars, another instrument repeats on 4 bars, another on 5 bars, etc.

    I’ve often thought about better ways of doing this, and I think next time I work on some songs in Gadget again, I’ll actually split the structure across two Gadget projects that can ‘mate’ together in Auria as exported audio files. This will probably also solve the requirement of holding notes across sections – have a separate Gadget proj which includes those. They don’t even have to be the same tempo, they can be divisions of each other, as long as they mesh back together in the audio mixing stage.

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