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Is this the one?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/122761653967
That looks like the official one, I did notice the seller is a repair centre and you have been having problems for a while. It might be worth popping into any major retailer or Apple Store for the peace of mind.
The other one that also charges your device is called Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter. Add an external USB battery pack if you want to be truly mobile!
Awesome.. your the man...
I got a nanokey studio but am thinking of bossing up on one of those expensive CME Bluetooth 32 keyboards
I had a mpk225 but sold it for being too bulky. Everything I get needs to be streamlined now for iOS mobility
Picked up the Minilab MK2 today. I'm very impressed. The keys are the same size (or very very very close in size) to my Keystep. That puts it in a different league than the keys on the MPK and Launchkey Mini (two controllers I bought and returned). Encoders are fine. First time for me using endless encoders but no problems so far. Love the MIDI mapping possibilities via the editor and the fact that I can change MIDI channel on the controller itself, which I couldn't do with the MPK Mini. No arp unfortunately but I might get an LPK wireless for arp duties since it's tiny. Or I might keep the Keystep but I'm running low on space.
A couple of remarks about the MiniLab might be relevant:
The Mk2 version ships with the LITE version of the AnalogLab software, which is stripped down to 500 presets as opposed to the full version with 5000 presets (from the V collection) bundled with the Mk1. I actually bought the Mk1 as it was a bit cheaper, than AnalogLab alone, so the controller was just a bonus. It does look a bit cheesy, specially the very cheap looking fake wood ends, but it is in fact not as bad as it looks.
As for the quality of the keys, they are OK for dabbling, and the swift way of channel shifting is great for testing and setup purposes, and it does have a decent amount of knobs and pads. I also find it quite suitable for a mobile dabbling setup.
As for the comparison with the Keystep, I will say that the keybord is another league. Maybe the Mk2 is improved - dont know, since have never tried it.
Mpk is so plasticky and basically cheap china trash that i wouldnt pay more than 10€ for. Only reason why people buy these is the marketing aimed at people who never used anything else and thus dont know about anything better and therefore will happily praise it
Sooooooo, I'm trying to buy the MiniLab2 over the counter in London... It's NOWHERE!!
This is so true. My two Arturia controllers feel like real instruments in comparison. They have some heft in them and the keys are so much better and bigger.
If it wasn’t for the stuck notes I’ve experienced I’d be definitely still a proud owner.
Hmmm, kinda getting annoyed with the Minilab endless encoders now that I've had a good bit of time to play with it. They're just annoying enough to get a person out of the zone when playing music. Could be a dealbreaker. Might be (another) controller return for me. Will give it the weekend of some more playing before I decide.
Great post!
Full marks for arrogance and ignorance... well done.
Thanks
Or was this sarcasm and its not actually plasticky made in china for cheap?
Btw here is similar controller to mpk mini, which seems like very similar build quality, but its almost half the price, because it doesent have the akai logo. I wouldnt be very surprised if they came from the same factory
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/MINI-portable-25-keys-keyboard-and_60405640442.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.69.69cbc0f4AsYI6X
And the reason i wouldnt pay more than 10€ for it is because i see better midi keyboards for as low as 20€ used quite often
Hello again, sorry to be a pain in the ass, but is USB 3 ok for iPad Air 1 and MPK Mini mk2?
Yes the usb 3 camera adapter will work but you will still need some kind of power going to the adapter whether it be the power adapter or portable battery
Cool, thanks man..
Dude:
My MPK doesn’t feel cheap.. drum pads super responsive, all backlight.. nice semi weighted keys.. all in all .. pretty solid.
Yes, and this particular one represents the lower end of china quality when it comes to midi controllers.
I know, i never said that no one should buy it. I said that i wouldnt pay more than 10€ for it. Read
Look, here is a full sized 49 key midi keyboard for 10 pounds https://www.gumtree.com/p/audio-midi-controllers/m-audio-midi-keyboard-controller/1272732323 . Here is another same keyboard for same price, so the price isnt something special https://www.gumtree.com/p/audio-midi-controllers/m-audio-keystation/1272775852 . They doesent require any programs, and i would much rather take this than mpk mini.
I think its just silly that people praise a product as very good etc, when it clearly is not a very good controller. And everyone who has used a very good controller, can instantly notice that mpk mini is not a really nice controller. Sure its cheap, and the low price of it shows in its quality. And people returning these because they were simply too low quality and paying a bit more and getting a lot better quality and being happy with that new product is a clear evidence of this.
Again im not saying that some people wont like these. Im saying that when people say that this is a very good controller etc, think whether or not that person actually knows what is a very good controller..
Where are the knobs, the pads,the arp in the 49 keys keyboards you included the link?ah, there are none....
I personally own a mk1 but of course I own many more ( 3 more to be exact). Now I hardly use it but at the beginning was my only one and this is the one I take on my holidays and still is a good piece of portable keyboard.
There are none on the m-audio one i posted, but there are pads, knobs and faders on the one i posted from alibaba that costs 40€ less than mpk mini and has similar features and similar cheap china quality. I never said that the m-audio one had these, i said that i would rather take that one personally. The reason i would take it is the fact that it has larger keys, more keys, better keys and pitch + mod wheels. If i wanted pads and would be willing to get a controller that can only play a scale in two octaves, i would rather take a 16 pad controller(16 notes routed to scales gives about same amount of notes on that scale than 25 chromatic keys), like mpd218 which sells for the same price in my local store. I also dont personally see any value in some very basic arp, as there are good arp apps on ios, like steppolyarp.
I was going to say that novation impulse 25 offers 25 decent quality keys(almost as good as in my yamaha cs6x, which has the best key feel for my fingers than anything else i have used), pads, very nice arp, knobs, templates, very good build quality for the price(and yes it is a bit plasticky as well, but not as bad as mpk mini and it doesent feel cheap on keys or elsewhere where it matters) etc, everything a lot better than mpk mini, costed only 50€ more(but is a bit more hassle to set up), but it seems like its discontinued, because my local store doesent have it anymore and elsewhere the prices have gone up a bit, so it costs 66€ more now if you buy from thomann.
I would also rather take arturia minilab 2, as people who used both here, said that its quite a bit better quality and it costs the same.
Also i dont think portability makes a controller a good controller, it can make it more useful for some people who need portability, but whether its good value for the money depends on how it compares to other products in the similar price range in terms of build quality, key and pad feel/responsiveness, features etc. I think that 66€ more of impulse 25 is still in the similar price range and mpk mini is a joke compared. But impulse 25 is not as portable keyboard. Whether a controller is good or not depends on how it compares to all controllers, regardless of price.
I would also rather use pads on the ipad screen over low quality mini keys, especially if my intention were to be extremely portable with my setup.
How much more did the controller cost that you use now instead of mpk mini at home? Whats better in it?
So if people who have used both say that the arturia one is a lot better, and they cost the same, portability is almost the same. What makes the mpk mini good in comparison? I would honestly be interested to know, because i dont see any logic in it.. Is it the fact that its a few cm smaller which is such a huge thing that build quality etc can be ignored?
Ps. my theory about this argument is that people who have it and are in love with it got butt hurt, because someone said that the thing they love is not very good in comparison. To me its the same with teen love, you fall hard for someone who you later in life when you have more experience, realize was way inferior to other potential partners.
So lets keep this rational please, read that what i wrote are my preferences for a controller and echoes of other peoples experiences with it. I understand that if someone is butt hurt, they might not read things through properly(im guilty of that sometimes too) and not get my point properly because of that. But now that we know that it might be the case, maybe we can read again and calm down a bit before replying.
This is exactly the type of stupid internet arguments which i have been happy about that there havent been much on this forum compared to nearly any other place.
I think MPK mini mk1 was my first mini controller. Ever since then I tried to upgrade it with Novation launchkey mini but had power issues (it was a fault of non genuine cck then) and I didn't like the tiny pads.
Then I got m-audio air whatever. I didn't like the shiny smudgy looks and was a bit large.
Then I tried reloop keyfadr but the software was pc only.
After that I bought minilab mk1 but as soon as I got it out of the box the faux wood cheeks fell off. Then I had some software issues so returned with the excuse of the cheeks.
Then minilab mk2 came out so I got it from the local shop and absolutely loved it as it had it all but... I started having stuck notes in sunrizer which was my synth app for live use. I tried all sorts including updating firmware, reinstalling apps and trying another unit. No go.
So, there. Not for not knowing any better but simply because all the 'better' units out there didn't deliver. Even if I'd kept minilab I'd be missing finite knobs on Akai. Yes, they're cheap and cheerful yet work better for me.
1) you talk about an alibaba controller that “seems” as good/bad as the akai. Did you test it? So then how do you know?
2)I have an MPK88 an MPK261 and a MAX49. All great controllers and much superior in keybed size, feeling , faders, feeling of the knobs. No doubt about it.
3)Pads from akai mpk mini are quite decent. The keys are very small and feel cheap BUT for the price and portability I can leave with that. This is just my opinion. I will not be arrogant enough that my opinion should be everybody’s opinion. You think differently? Fine for you. But don’t believe that everybody is an idiot if they don’t think the same as you.
I never said that my opinion should be everyones. Its not nice to put words in other peoples mouth and then call them arrogant for stuff they didnt even say, but you said about them..
BTW Novation impulse 25 is double the price of an Akai MPK mini.
And yes you said if I do not have the same opinion as you do I am a kind of unexperienced teen:
“ my theory about this argument is that people who have it and are in love with it got butt hurt, because someone said that the thing they love is not very good in comparison. To me its the same with teen love, you fall hard for someone who you later in life when you have more experience, realize was way inferior to other potential partners.”
Personally i would rather have few stuck notes every now and then if it meant better build quality, since i dont play live gigs. And if i were to play live, i would use something else than one of the cheapest mini keys.
You see, you'd rather live with a few stuck notes and have a otherwise solid feeling product. For me the stuck notes are absolute party killer.
Apart from mushy keys and 'cheap chinese' looks the board scores high on all fronts. Never let me down despite a lot of abuse. I had 2 of them at one point
No. I wouldnt play live with stuck notes, i never said that. I said that i would rather use something else than either of these if i were doing live stuff. I would get something else than mpk mini if i didnt already have good keys, and if the stuck notes are really something occurring often and with other apps than just sunrizer, i wouldnt trust minilab live either. But since i dont do live stuff, i would choose minilab because in non live situation a few stuck notes here and there are not as big of an issue to me as lower quality keys are. Could you please stop putting words in my mouth already?
For me the reason I picked up a cheap akai was to have something that I could stick in a backpack for a weekend away and if it got broke it won't cost too much to replace. If you look at the price then factor in research, production, distribution and marketing its a little unfair to expect great build quality. The arp is nice to have for synths that don't already have one and it gives new users a taste of note repeat and I believe swing is in there somewhere?
I have found that if you want really good keybed, the few midi controller keyboards that offer this are similar in price to a older second hand synth that is not fashionable at the moment.
I would love to see a 49 key Bass Station 2, nice keybed, after touch and solid build. A great feature is that all encoders and sliders send midi cc, so you can midi map most of your iOS synth collection and know that the filter frequency, amp envelope etc etc will do what you expect.