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Altispace or virsyn audioreverb
So, what give's the best reverb? I'm a bit lost.
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They're totally different:
Altispace uses Convolution Reverbs ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution_reverb ). Audioreverb uses algorithms.
Personally, for algorithm-based reverb on iOS, I like AUFX Space the most. Audioreverb does also sound good (I prefer the editing features on Space the most, compared to Audioreverb or AD 480 Pro).
For Convolution Reverbs, I do like Altispace a bit more than Rooms! because there's more in-depth editing capabilities. If you have Auria, there's the FabFilter Saturn plug-in, but that's not so much for reverb but more for amp modeling. It is a IR loader (convolution reverb uses IR files), but I've never personally tried it for reverb stuff, always for amp modeling.
Saturn is a 6-bands distortion/saturation (w. Dynamics and EQ processing) unit. Neither IR loader, nor amp modeler.
There is a native convolution reverb unit in Auria though (comes with the initial purchase).
Other then that, what Calcutta said. AltiVerb is a great convolution reverb unit, and the reverb will sound as good as the IR you load into (basically). There are a few things holding it back at the moment, the biggest thing would be that the length of the IR sample is limited to 4.2 seconds, and hence you can't get longer reverbs then that. Also a very minor delay, hardly noticeable but it's there. I believe both issues will be revised with updates though.
If I didn't have any reverb unit on iOS at all, I'd go for one of the algo based ones first. Can't go wrong with either of the top 3 ones - AUFX Space, AD480, AudioReverb. It gives you much better flexibility in terms of shaping the length and sizes for your typical Lexicon-ish rooms/halls/spaces etc. Then I'd go for the IR based unit.
Oops! I meant Overloud THM, not Saturn. Sorry about that. Overloud does indeed to Convolution Reverb, too. blush
Good thread on using IR files in Auria: http://forum.audiob.us/discussion/2656/video-tutorial-loading-custom-ir-files-cab-impulses-in-overloud-thm-auria/p1
edit: I 2nd the update requests ChrisG mentioned for Altispace
@CalCutta said:
Nope, Overloud don't do IRs either.
(He set it up so Overloud goes through the Auria convo, loaded with a cab/amp IR, in the inserts).
I 2nd what you 2nd.
Timeless2 is the one with verbs
Timeless2 is the delays, actually (this one I really do know for sure, haha)
edit: ChrisG was correct the first time. The Auria Convolution Reverb engine is local and isn't a plug-in that must be purchased. After a quick little Pepsi challenge, I think I'm still going with AltiSpace as my current favorite for Convolution Reverb's on iOS.
Audio reverb is a combination of impulses and algorithms if I remember correctly. I love using it, and I also love altispace. I favor it over the built in convo verb because it has filters and I can print it through audiobus, keeping CPU free for other tasks.
I don't have thm, but I know it has the breverb plate reverb in it, which I have on my Mac (was $5 from audio midi a few years ago for a cut down version) and it sounds really good.
There's also a nice plate verb in tonestack, it sounds very thick. The plates in altiverb were a bit "thinner." Which is just what the song I'm mixing now needs, the thick verb was too much.
Aufx space is great as well, I've never tried the 480 verb so I can't comment. Luckily, everything listed comes to less than $50 altogether- that's crazy!!
Thanks for the replies! I think I buy both of them because it looks like they have both a unique selling point.
Has anyone been able to use altispace to load speaker cabinet IRs?
altispace is awesome. I recorded an impulse response from the semi truck size paint booth at my work. and imported it into altispace. sounds really cool. such a fun app when you import in your own impulse responses
How did you make your custom impulse response?
I've used the apple impulse response utility on the mac, but it would be neat to be able to do it with a phone, that's usually what you have with you. I guess you can just record a clap. A starter pistol is better (but weirder to carry around). The apple utility plays a frequency sweep, out of a speaker, then analyzes it and turns it into what a perfect pop would sound like in the space.
that is cool for (special) fx, but you need a hell of a quality analog chain to generate a clean signal that just projects the sound of the location and not the flaws of the recording equipment onto the source signal
From experimenting with the apple utility, I don't know if you need anything better than prosumer gear to get great results, but you're totally right, the recording chain gets replicated in the reverb, I don't think recording a clap with the phone's mic would sound anywhere as nice- indeed, it would replicate the response of the phone's mic in the reverb. It sounds really good to use some omni condenser mics, like, in a spaced pair, for a stereo reverb.
Most important is that it is quiet in the space, like, no cars driving by outside, etc. Also important is that there isn't any buzzing/hum in speakers you're using, or buzzy lights, or shit rattling around in the room. Also it is important to have the mic gain set right so it doesn't clip. Any of those things skew the frequency response of the impulse and ruin the realism. I think that's where the magic of sweep of the apple utility, rather than just recording a pop, comes in- I believe it helps with noise rejection.