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This.
Based on the fact that no one in RTM is gong to be a sound engineer, we use the presets of those who are, via Fab Filters under AuriaPro, then tweak settings until it sounds right to us. Future works will be tried using the Wave Filters under Cubasis, using whichever ends up best,
No doubt someone like our friend Tarekith could make further improvements, but what we get is pretty decent for a bunch of amateurs, and way beyond what our stuff sounded like before we had a head start.
Pretty good beginner guide to mixing from iZotope that I came across (for any other newbies browsing this thread). A quick read. downloads.izotope.com/guides/iZotope-Mixing-Guide-Principles-Tips-Techniques.pdf
Experience is always the best teacher, and mixing a song every month for the SOTMC has been really good for me.
I think the main thing I've learnt really is that the faders can do 90% of the work for you. Especially with digital sources and software synths: the tone is already there, there is very little to tweak. There's no real reason to compress or EQ a synth track - unless there's a glaring problem.
Vocals, drums, and bass will usually require compression, but again if the drums and bass are derived from samples then they will already be much easier to tame than actual recorded drums and bass, so once again less is more.
Vocals however always need some kind of treatment, and some gentle bus compression on the whole mix or on a sub-section of tracks can be a good thing. EQ I personally only use to fix problems, never to "enhance" a sound. YMMV but this is what works for me at this point in time.
That's all for the bread-and-butter stuff of course. There's another side to mixing which is more akin to sound design: adding delays and filters to shape and sculpt and transform the sound. Here there are no rules, and if you're mixing your own stuff you can go crazy and have fun. This isn't really mixing in the traditional sense though, it's more like producing.
This has my vote for "Best Answer Given on Internet" 2017.
As a casual dabbler I like the fabfilter YouTube channel’s vids.
I know liking Dan Worrall is almost a cliche but he does have a way of communicating clearly.
Other than that I just use me ears until it sounds alright to me.
Dumb question but I’m still still trying to under what a bus is. Is it just a group of tracks?
+1. Most digital sources on the IPAD feel pretty "ready" to me. The faders and a little tweak here and there do most of the work.
That's a good point. Maybe that's why I've never felt like "omg, I need to learn mixing because my recordings sound like crap." I'm usually like, "This sounds good. I'll cut down the bass a little and go easier on reverb, but other than that, it sounds decent."
It can be a group of tracks, or some other routing use. So for example you could create a bus for your drums and send each drum track to that bus, which would create a group which can be controlled with one fader.
But you could also send your drums out to two busses, one which might have heavy compression, and one which might have none - so in this case you would be dialing in the wet/dry amount with two faders.
Or you might decide to send some tracks to a bus that is running a filter or delay or whatever. Essentially any routing task you can think of can be achieved with busses and auxiliary sends.
I'm pretty sure richardyot explained this very thing to me on here, a year or so ago. lol. Bus, send, subgroup,. Makes my head spin.
Thanks!
I'm humbled.
I learned mixing on a tascam 464 4 track recorder when making demos for my old band years ago, and then when using Cubase on a PC after that, I had used magazine articles and books to educate myself.....or at least I thought i did....stuff generally sounded OK, but it would take ages to get it that way.
It wasn't until watching videos on youtube from people who knew what they were doing that i learned I was pretty much doing it wrong. Reading articles and books is OK and you can get the theory from that, but with videos you get to HEAR what the instructor or presenter is talking about, so you get not only the theory but also the real world application of that theory......
I found the vids from this guy very informative indeed https://www.recordingrevolution.com/ there are plenty of his vids available on YT.
I now get much better results, MUCH quicker...the main reason being that now I know how to correct issues in the mix....I can generally avoid those issues in the first place when voicing, recording and arranging a track.
If you want to target specific mixing knowledge that you should learn then these are the 3 main things
Maybe this falls under "glaring problem", but one instance where you might want to EQ a synth track that already sounds good soloed, is to make room for something else in the mix - vocals, for example, that occupy the same frequency range.
I still am crap at mixing even after once owning my own home studio and now making music on iOS for a few years. I generally don’t get past the making a sorta demo to play along with stage lol
I got my mixes to sound ten times better when I just accepted that it I am a hobbiest with headphones.
Good example.....another of the same thing, and the one that made be finally get how to EQ...
Use EQ to remove a small notch from your bass to allow the kick to come through...your kick gets louder, but you are EQ'ing the bass
The kick of course isn't actually getting louder, you can just hear it clearer (which makes it seem louder) because the bass isn't getting in the way.
Guide to mixing for beginners:
http://innerportalstudio.com/articles/Mixdowns.pdf
True - and I suppose that some of us have some pretty busy mixes. Personally, I probably like a bit more overlap than what is common, but even I have my limits to the amount of mud that I can tolerate. If there's just too much overlap, I often mess around with panning, too. Sometimes filtering with EQ or using something like Saturn in Auria can help make a happy family.
I attended recording classes once a week when I was a senior in high school.
My instructor was the producer of "Double Shot of My Baby's Love" His secret to that classic hit? " I just hung a mic from the ceiling"
For me, the rest was trial and (a lot of) error.
I learned mixing back in the late 70's doing front-of-house mixes for bands. At that time, non-studio 24-track mixers were just coming onto the touring market, so it was a wonderful time to learn the beast and how it worked.
A large mixer can be very intimidating until you realize that, for the most part, there are really only 3 or 4 control strips to learn: the input channels, the subs or bus channels and Aux and the master channels. Once you are comfortable with this concept, and the individual controls on each section, you can progress to using outboard gear and plug-ins etc.
Although a bit dated now, in 2013, I wrote a piece on IOS music mixing (part of which was featured on the Auria blog). In it, I discuss the process of mixing a song created in Nanostudio and then mixed in Auria. The article gives details on using the FabFilter plug-ins, as well as the reasoning behind using specific mixing strategies and procedures. For those interested, it may be found here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3veo5quav9b6vj3/Makin’ Music in 2013.pdf?dl=0
I also second the recommendation of Mike Senior's book mentioned earlier in this thread.
Cheers, and happy mixing!
props for this- i have read this and it helped me a lot, and i am a technodummy
I was thrown in the deep end(sort of)....... When I uploaded "Bassmore" (if you remember I put it on another thread) track on Soundcloud. 71rec label wanted it. So they said whats my Mastering was like, also the mix needs a bit of work(ok for Demo, but for a release) on it(& I thought was ok....ish)........ So I had to teach myself a crash course on it, via production forums, & goood ole YouTube. After a stressful week, I didn't realise how bad the originals were. Because of them, they helped me to understand, & realise, & also improve my mixing skills. So after that I became better at it, also it gave me more contracts signed on a few of my tracks with other labels(sorry if it sounds a bit"Big Headed"...... Not meant to be)...... but it has happened(which is nice)..... If you type "Darren Studholme" in iTunes, some of my track are on there(also, Beatport & Traxsource).
I'm only monitoring thru Focal Spirit Pros Headphones, or Logitech 2:1 Desktop speakers( which is what I use mostly... Or a pair of 60 Euro Sony DJ headphones).... No super Duper Studio Moniters. Can't afford them. but as someone said on this thread, as soon as you adjust a fader, it can put the mix out.
But thanks to 71rec label, for kicking me up the Arse, & making do it. Or I would think the tracks, were ok at the time.
You can fix a lot of mixing problems by going back to problematic synths and tweaking the sound design.
And of course - always fix problems by removing frequencies/gain, rather than by adding.
@studs1966 Awesome. You are one of the lucky few.
Thanks.
Yes..... I hope there more Remixes, etc to do. Tho...... Haven't made a penny yet(tho that is not important. Just love writing music. Good or Bad) 
But it's just a nice feeling that my name is up there with the Artists(& still learning how to do mixes, etc)
Most important for me , is that when my 7yr old daughter grows up. She can say to her kids one day...... "My Dad(Your Grandad) made this when I was little".......... "Music back then sounds so lame, than to what it does now!!"..... :Just like my ole man says to me now....... D
Honestly, I think I'm pretty bad it. Well, definitely not 'good' at it anyway. I often lose the forest for the trees, especially if it's my own stuff. With other people's stuff, I prefer to either record it or mix it. Not both because I also get a little lost. Plus, recording is way more fun anyway!
One big takeaway from working at that studio for a few years: great songs are very easy to mix. Ok songs played by great players are also easy to mix.
The rest is what you get paid for.
Agree and would add that mixing at low volumes helps hold off ear fatigue. Plus if you are not using flat-response monitors you are probably just kidding yourself that you will get an overall good mix. But it could sound good on the speakers you mixed on.
I agree! You can apply a lot of what you know about mixing regular instruments to electronic music, but some things are unique. Like, I've had better results going in and tweazing the velocity of soft synths, rather than automating the volume, or compressing.