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I rather pay credit card bill for hardware and stick with Ableton at the point of a 100% sub models only.
However
IMHO
APPLE IS HEADING TO A SUBSCRIPTION MODEL FOR THE App Store ITSELF.
APPS WILL BE IAP TYPE THINGS.
MY THEORY
Yeah, just like Sony with Playstation Store. You pay a monthly fee then you buy apps. They already get 30% on every purchase but it's not enough when you are big and greedy of course.
The signs are all there.
The subscription fee for the AppStore is already included in the premium paid for an ithing
As some earlier remarked in this thread. If this is becoming the case Apple should just give away iPhones and iPads, cable companies do the same thing. You pay for a subscription and you get a DVCR with it (included in subscription).
But because you can’t buy apps anywhere else it would mean buying an iPad or iPhone would mean you would have to pay a subscription fee as well just to use it. Can’t see how that would wash with customers. Put more people off I’d think. Apple make too much profits from selling the hardware to give the iPads away etc.
Apples healthy App consumption guide,
Music Production market, saturated,
Subscription Music Production market, polyunsaturated.
Never going to happen because how will the money divided amongst the 2.8 million iOS developers? As some remarked earlier. Only bigger devs will survive the subscription model in the end I see a few big software companies controlling 95% of the app sales.
On the other hand, most users hardly download any apps at all. With a subscription model Apple can earn a lot of extra income. So it could be a a strategical move to be a step ahead of future drying up app sales.
See:
Majority of U.S. consumers still download zero apps per month, says comScore
https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/17/global-app-downloads-topped-175-billion-in-2017-revenue-surpassed-86-billion/?guccounter=1
It is a suggestion by Apple, NOT an announcement
(and most certainly not considering the tiny music/DAW domain much)
The suggested model may yield positive results, but as mentioned it does raise the bar for some 'independant' developers.
Imho as a developer you should (always) have something unique to offer - not the wide-spread me-too approaches (btw not unique to IOS at all). Tbh it became quite boring.
Of my estimated 150 apps only 15 get regular use.
So there wouldn't be any loss at all - I'm (meanwhile) convinced (by experience) that NOTHING will ever change within the 'low entry profile' scheme.
Improvement of audio processing and tools demands a serious amount of work by developers, which is impossible to be compensated in the current model.
That's a matter of fact, see the proof endless bugfix chains of rushed out stuff just to throw 'something' out to market. Neither pro nor amusing...
Subscription has a (very) bad reputuation (just by the term itself) from decades ago when smart sellers tricked people into ordering things of all kind they really didn't need.
But they 'subscribed' and had to fulfill contracts.
It works with pay TV as it works on investment goods (under the leasing monicker), as it works with phone/data lines (flatrate) etc etc.
Adobe's Creative Cloud is an affordable solution even for hobbyists - it's less than a regular ticket to your local soccer club.
It's bs to accuse Adobe of monopolism (which they do for sure) - as it were the users of pirated copies that put them in exactly that position. Happened earlier with M$ Office, too.
You can still continue to use what's current on the iDevice as is. My iPad One still works, as do my G3 Powermacs under MacOS9 (which was officially burried by Steven Jobs himself in 2002) - who cares ?
And there's always a way - some folks recently made the G4 Minimacs booting OS9, despite Apple's efforts to prevent his under all circumstances.
https://www.newszak.com/2018/09/12/music-synthesizers-market-drivers-analysis-share-growth-trends-forecast-to-2022/
Never?
I don't know.
Subscription model is never gonna work with the current generation of millennial who occupy the largest market share to Apple.
They aren't fond of big companies and hate things like Cable companies.
Hence, the online TV services.
That being said, millennials are now leaving workplace en masse to "regroup" and "recover" from several years of work.
This is not a demo that digs on subscriptions.
I realize what you are saying makes sense.
Perhaps I should more clearly state I am seeing this through the context of this discussion, music apps.
Naturally, my statement not be wholly representative of all app genres.
But music apps.....well I know it won't work.
Mainly because like I said, hardware is a smarter buy for me and I suppose others.
Especially with market trends.
https://greenenergy24.com/2018/09/05/global-music-synthesizers-market-analysis-2018-23-casio-computer/
Pussies !
Where?
No but they can stop supporting it and Apple will eventually break it with OS updates.
Pretty much all my ipad1 apps still work except where they include 3rd party features like Dropbox etc.
Ya pays ye monies and ye take ya chances
A fool and his money is soon parted
Buyer beware
Money is the root of all evil
Appdiction leads to blind compulsion
Their logo is an apple bitten from
Remind you of anything
GMO ?
Adam and Eve?
Genetically modified opinion 😁
In a way yes...I was thinking more a slithering thing chasing its tail
Sleeping Beauty
Yup that story has a significant evil component so it applies here👍🏻😀
It could be worse 'compulsive applied dick-tion leads to blindness'
Thing is, if the "big bad Apple" were to pull a stunt like this, it could be announced today at their event where the biggest announcement seems to be the iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR (oh yeah, spoiler alert). If not, then the worst I think will come of this is some developers listening to Apple and switching the pricing model, while the rest simply don't. The former would fall into two categories...
Freemium apps which had static prices for IAP content before and are simply switching the subscription model. The IAPs you purchased during the pre-subscription era are still yours to keep forever and ever. Auxy was one of these apps.
A paid app that switches to the model, such as Ulysses. THIS is the type of app switch that would definitely piss off a lot of people. Me too.
For the most part, I'd rather not pay a subscription fee for everything on my iPad. That would suck hard. HOWEVER, there are situations where $9.99/month would be fair....
A desktop app ported over that costs up the arse to purchase outright. For instance, a major DAW like Logic Pro X with all of its internal synths and effects, external native plugin format synths and effects, and expanding content library unlocked. Costs $199 outright without the content library, and it'd take 20 months at $9.99/month to reach the original asking price.
A group of plugins, such as Roland Cloud, that'd also normally cost up the arse to purchase outright in the desktop environment. If I am forced back to the PC environment due to some "tremendous big bad scary subscription apocalypse", I'd have my FL Studio, all the Image-Line synths including Harmor, and I'd subscribe to Roland Cloud to get my other sounds. They even allow a person to keep one plugin per every 12 months subscribed.
A freemium app that once had static IAPs but now has an ever-expanding content library including those IAPs to subscribe to. In this case, it's all about weighing cost vs function vs whatever the content library has. My favourite example of an app like this is Auxy, which I've been subscribed to since January. Their packs used to cost $4.99 each. The subscription is now $4.99/month, and the guys release a new sound pack monthly. It's basically the same price, just on a time table, and I use Auxy daily and have turned some heads with the output, so it's definitely worth it.
A cloud storage service.
A media service (Netflix, Spotify, etc).
If a person thinks they can sell one plugin for a subscription (as opposed to an ever expanding suite), they should get lost.
If a person thinks they should turn their music app that caters to a niche genre only 5 of us actually listen to (Wotja) into a subscription app and expect the artist to continue paying despite said artist not earning money/recognition from that niche genre only 5 of us listen to, they should get lost. There's reasonable, and there's unreasonable.
Millenials are irrational selective and very easy to manipulate with feelings. The are fond of very big companies as Apple because they think Apple is somehow good. They are great defenders of globalism. But the irrational part is they hate big companies (Coca Cola) and are fierce against neo-liberalism which promotes globalism. It's all about images and how they feel with them. It's at the moment a great fashion statement amongst millenials to walk around with Coca Cola t-shirts. It's hard to folow their way of logic.
Is that equivalent to dicktation?
That’s right how could I have been so blind
I totaly agree that where things are right now I certainly would not want to subscribe to anything. However if I were just dropped into this iOS thing and the music apps were at the same quality level as the standout graphics apps then I would quickly find myself giving into subscriptions. So yah there is a big chicken/egg thing going on. Without the money the quality suffers, without the quality, hard to justify a subscription.
Apple does not let devs charge for updates, only IAP and initial releases. A dev could always release a sequel but then the dev is pressured to now support two versions. IAP features seem to fragment and limit the potential for updating an app too. It really is different than other platforms. In the end my money is just on ‘mobile’, if in five years I am spending my money on windows tablets, so be it.