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Soul is a difficult thing to explain even more for a machine and it's even more complicated to describe in english since I'm french speaking.
I think, it doesn't matter and I'm not an expert. I just have the feeling that they are not sounding as surprising as I would dreaming of ...
The demos didn't convinced me. To me, both sounds awful.
Cheers,
The drum looks like an amazing performance box. I wouldn't trade it for Noir but I will be checking the used markets for these things.
I still dream of Korg recreating the wavedrum global on iOS, using Impaktor style input. That dsp is very deep but almost impossible to edit.
I pre-ordered a Volca Drum from Sweetwater. The $149 price point is actually kind of nice, as many of these debuted at $169 (pretty sure). I'm just sure I can find some use for it, and that Cuckoo video makes it look incredibly deep, though it could take me awhile to figure out.
The new cases posted on the other page looked interesting, but if you are looking for a cheap option for a hard case that fits perfectly, check out the Vaultz Pencil/Utility boxes:
https://www.amazon.com/Vaultz-Locking-Utility-Inches-VZ01479/dp/B001BXZ28K/ref=sr_1_1?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1547606459&sr=1-1&keywords=vaultz+pencil
They are like $10 to $15 each and sold everywhere. I saw a pile of them at WalMart, and I've even seen them at places like Walgreens. I throw a thin layer of foam on the top to secure and protect the knobs, and the hard outer shell keeps them very save for storage. Just make sure you get the one the key lock instead of the roller combination type, as the latter has some mechanism that intrudes on the inside.
Drum and Modular look great! Very exciting given that many of us feared the Volca line was over after the original project supervisor moved on to new things.
@StormJH1
Thanks for the heads up and helpful and useful info! 😊
Yeah, I don't see why video makers don't do that. Even just putting the chapters in the description as time, it's not hard to do.
I like the modular, it's got the basic sound and the sequencer/microtuning options are very cool.
At $200 though... It seems a little silly to buy it when the O Coast has so much more going on. This Volca could of been very cool with just a few more 3.5mm ins and outs. Maybe there will be some good hack points that make up for that.
Oh and that reverb that you can modulate, neat!
O-Coast though is $500 vs $200 for the Volca Modular, though I'm sure it is worth the cost for those who can spend the extra money.
Volca Modular looks good enough to satisfy my desires to patch Buchla-like sounds - can't really justify the additional $300, and like other Volcas can be battery powered.
I had a Volca Bass and it didn't sound anything special to me. Same with Volca Beats. I kept the Keys, despite its kind of generic analog sound - because its 3-note paraphony/polyphony is nice to have around for the money and its Flux mode is useful.
In the US we say "different strokes, for different folks"
Ahh, didn't realise the O Coast was $500. Mine was $350 from Perfect Circuit new.
No worries. Most if not all my Volcas were purchased from PCA as well, so to me it's inevitable PCA will include the Volca Modular in its next Volca sale; and/or include it in one of those PCA bundle deals.
Nice overview of the modules:
im quite certain something like soul for an instrument is very subjective.
Really great video. Now I know I no longer want it.
Fabulous job. Looks like it will be tremendously fun and useful if you're into that sort of experimental realm. I love it.
The video probably explores about 0.1% of the sounds it can produce, doesn’t even go into automation or stochastic sequencing.
I'm the opposite. I can't wait to see how I can integrate this with my Behringer Model D.
I think I could lose myself in this. I am worried about the gateway thing though, no kidding. I mean, I have hardware synths and ios synts coming out of my, ya know, and I really don't need to embark on the modular thing.
But this synth looks like it would be as experimental as I could safely get at this time. hehehe
Really does sound like a poor person's Buchla. Seems like he pays a bit of homage to Morton Subotnick's classic album "Silver Apples Of The Moon".
That reverb is weird. First thing I'm doing if I ever get it (which is probably not any time soon) is try to turn it into a generative ambient machine.
Looking forward to adding a bit of Woggle and Stochastic sequencing to my Volca jams!
Plus it’s got the Randomize feature that so many people seem to want.
Same as mhco—I said that as compared to the Volca Keys or Volca Kick or even the Volca Sample. Those have "something about them" (for me). I should have included that 'for me' in my original comment. Certainly do not think my opinion is some sort of objective truth.
These seem to tick a lot of the requisite technical boxes but neither of them sound all that interesting to me. Mind, I'm a sucker for sub-$200 hardware boxes and do not think the physicality of hardware can not easily be replaced with software. Still, sound wise, I would much rather use Patterning 2 or Elastic Drums in place of the Volca Drums. Or the Volca Sample.
I'm totally blown away at what they've managed to pack into the Volca Modular, technically. Especially at $200! Sonically though... I dunno. From what I've heard so far there's a whole lot of thin sounding bleeps and bloops and the occasional sweet spot. I'd much rather use Ripplemaker or save up and get the 0-coast. They both just sound good at a whole range of different settings.
Again, 'for me' in full effect here. Hope others are inspired to make tons of stuff with them.
The most exciting thing to me about either of these is the step-based p-locking on the Drums. That's extremely cool to see in a $150 box and bodes quite well for the future of Volcas in my eyes. And the randomizers are very inspiring.
Also noticed that the Modular already has a firmware update (1.05). That's also promising to me. I don't think I've ever seen a firmware update for any of my other Volcas.
On the flip side of that, similar to the other Volcas, the 16 pattern limit starts to rear it's ugly head when I think about using them to put together songs. At least songs that I might try to recall later.
I get that they're really meant to be "in the moment" boxes but, for me, that's been a recurring bummer for those times when I want to continue something with them.
Apparently it's by design, which if true would be better than just copying the Volca Sample reverb. Francis Preve's thoughts on that, and the unit in general:
http://cdm.link/2019/01/review-volca-modular-takes-on-creative-synthesis-in-a-small-package/
While the price is great, the modular sounds anemic compared to the 0-Coast based on the 5 videos I've watched tonight. In the demos, it doesnt sound nearly as vibrant as the 0-Coast.
Maybe this will help boost demand for West Coast style synths.
Yeah I think I agree
Totally agree on the sound after watching a couple more videos. Ripplemaker sounds much better, fuller, thumpier.
My biggest hesitation with the Modular is that all the sounds I've heard in the various demos are very similar. There doesn't seem to be a large bandwidth of different timbres. Maybe early reviewers haven't dug deep enough yet, or maybe they've been focusing on the pattern/modulation logic aspect rather than the sound characteristics (which admittedly seems very fun and well implemented here).
One of the demos I watched included a guy sweeping the wavefolder, and it seemed to lack the range and richness of a Buchla (including Arturia's software clone) or the O-Coast or Aalto. At least that is my impression.
I'm not so concerned about comparisons with other gear. As with all Volcas, most competing hardware will be better and more fully featured (and more expensive). For Volcas the key criterium is how much fun it is working within its limitations and how far it can be pushed standing on its own. The latter is where I am yet to be convinced.
I think this style synth is very easy to sound samey. I get tired of the wavefolding thing really quick but love the FM/AM that is possible with the Buchla style.
Much more interesting when the wavefolding is used sparingly.
The key word in using the Volcas is FUN for me. To this point, all that I have gotten (4 of them) are great fun within their limitations. The demo, to my admittedly not that discriminating ears, sounds like it will offer enough different from what I already own, and in particular with it's flow of wires and options that it's a sort of a must-have at some point. Probably the closest I'm going to allow myself to get to a Buchla.
No, I am not going down the road to modular. No! I am not!!
Funny thing is though, that last night I did fire up my dusty RippleMaker app. Uh oh ...