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iPad Pro 11“ impressions

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  • .> @whiteout said:

    @kobamoto said:
    so is it just the new iPads with the issues or should one not update to the latest os either, I'm on an iPad mini 4 os 11.4 ?

    I think the general consensus is that iOS 12 is an improvement, especially on older devices. It’s certainly true for my Air 2.

    I’ve filed a bug report with Apple regarding the crackle issue on my 11“ a couple of days ago, but haven’t heard back yet.

    The respond to all tickets. It's a matter of time.

  • edited January 2019

    I know this may have been answered before, but I am on the fence of selling my ipad 2018 128 gb in favor of the ipad pro 64 gb. I dont use all the space on the ipad so I can live with the 64gb.
    How is the jump in terms of speed and number of apps that can be run in parallel, after this update ?
    I ve only a 25% increase of power so far, but user experience matters more to me ;-)
    Thanks !

  • @jazzmess said:
    I know this may have been answered before, but I am on the fence of selling my ipad 2018 128 gb in favor of the ipad pro 64 gb. I dont use all the space on the ipad so I can live with the 64gb.
    How is the jump in terms of speed and number of apps that can be run in parallel, after this update ?
    I ve only a 25% increase of power so far, but user experience matters more to me ;-)
    Thanks !

    Are you talking about the 9.7” 2018 iPad? The 11” pro will be a pretty huge improvement. More parallel apps, ability to set latency at 256 or 128 when needed, etc.

  • I bought the 11" Pro 512GB and I'm swapping it out for the 12.9 Pro 256GB... with all the extra processing might as well have the extra screen to load up multiple apps....

  • @Hmtx said:

    @jazzmess said:
    I know this may have been answered before, but I am on the fence of selling my ipad 2018 128 gb in favor of the ipad pro 64 gb. I dont use all the space on the ipad so I can live with the 64gb.
    How is the jump in terms of speed and number of apps that can be run in parallel, after this update ?
    I ve only a 25% increase of power so far, but user experience matters more to me ;-)
    Thanks !

    Are you talking about the 9.7” 2018 iPad? The 11” pro will be a pretty huge improvement. More parallel apps, ability to set latency at 256 or 128 when needed, etc.

    Yeah that’s what i needed !!! Thanks !

  • @Hmtx said:

    @jazzmess said:
    I know this may have been answered before, but I am on the fence of selling my ipad 2018 128 gb in favor of the ipad pro 64 gb. I dont use all the space on the ipad so I can live with the 64gb.
    How is the jump in terms of speed and number of apps that can be run in parallel, after this update ?
    I ve only a 25% increase of power so far, but user experience matters more to me ;-)
    Thanks !

    Are you talking about the 9.7” 2018 iPad? The 11” pro will be a pretty huge improvement. More parallel apps, ability to set latency at 256 or 128 when needed, etc.

    It’s important to add that currently it would be a downgrade (probably, I don’t own a iPad 2018, just a 11“ Pro 2018). There‘s still a nasty iOS bug, mostly solved with iOS 12.1.3 (beta), which makes it pretty much impossible to use the Pros with latencies below 1024 samples. See this very thread and several others.

    Here’s the latest, afaik, by @GeertBevin: https://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=31130#p171713

  • @jazzmess @whiteout sorry guys! I've settled on using a 2nd gen 12.9 and stopped following the news on the iOS 12 updates to fix the issues. I thought I heard it was fixed on the latest revision. I think if I were in your position @jazzmess I would keep the 2018 9.7" until we know that iOS 12 is actually fixed.

  • Ok thanks !!! I will keep it for now then and wait then ;-)

  • PSA: Amazon and Best Buy today kicked off new discounts for the 2017 10.5-inch iPad Pro, which include a new low price for the 64GB version at $499.99, down from $649.99.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2019/01/21/deals-spotlight-10-5-inch-ipad/

  • 12.1.3 update is live !

  • @nerVe said:
    12.1.3 update is live !

    Downloading now. Going to see if it fixes the CPU issues

  • @nerVe said:
    12.1.3 update is live !

    "- Fixes an issue that may cause audio distortion when using external audio input devices on iPad Pro (2018) "

    Confused by audio input. Also 'external' for the 2018 models.

  • edited January 2019

    In AUM I can run 6 Model D's and a lot of different effects at 256 buffer. but cant seem to get a single Model D under 256 buffer...still testing...

    It seems the DSP meter is only metering one core??? Jumps up to 70% after first instance of Model D but then can add 5 more with marginal change...

    Also, I can a run gang of effects on audio input (id44) at 64 buffer...it maxes out at 48k though...no 88k or 96k with AUv3 at 64 buffer... which I’ve been told is unreasonable to expect...

    128 buffer at 96k works but you need add more effects to get the DSP meter to go down!,,

    it almost seems like you have to push the cpu into the other cores to get it to lower DSP usage!!!!.not perfect but pretty darn cool 🤘🏻

  • I did a quick test, with the internal speaker only, and it seems to work fine. Finally. I can go down to a 64 samples buffer in BM3 and play a Model D without crackling. It takes up to 40% CPU, though.

  • edited January 2019

    I'm so impressed with these new pros I have decided to keep them both 11" and the 12.9" :o
    in lieu of ever upgrading my 17" MBP

  • @nerVe said:
    I'm so impressed with these new pros I have decided to keep them both 11" and the 12.9" :o
    in lieu of ever upgrading my 17" MBP

    Hey, I'm on the fence about buying either a 11" or 12.9", are there any apps in particular with which you feel the difference in size the most? For instance, I would guess that Model 15 benefits greatly from the larger screen.

    Thanks!

  • edited January 2019

    I'm mainly using AUM with Audient USBC ID44 interface and AUv3's...with the 11"
    The 12.9 is going to be for my personal use: travel, internet, media consumption and editing...

    @jipumarino said:

    @nerVe said:
    I'm so impressed with these new pros I have decided to keep them both 11" and the 12.9" :o
    in lieu of ever upgrading my 17" MBP

    Hey, I'm on the fence about buying either a 11" or 12.9", are there any apps in particular with which you feel the difference in size the most? For instance, I would guess that Model 15 benefits greatly from the larger screen.

    Thanks!

  • edited January 2019

    @jipumarino Whats weird is I get a lot more typos on the 12.9" than the 11". Im prob just not used to it.
    Also the speakers sound really good on the 11, louder than the 12.9".

    If I could only choose one I'd get the 11" but both are amazing devices.

  • Got it, thanks! I'm mainly looking a possible replacement for my current 9.7" iPad, which either at my little studio connected to an audio interface or used with headphones, so the speakers are not an issue really (though who knows, maybe these change my mind). I may take a trip to the Apple store and try to give an music production app a go.

  • @nerVe so I managed to borrow a 2018 12.9" iPad Pro, it has iOS 12.1.3. I tested some apps in AUM (DRC, Ruismaker Noir, Kleverb with external input) and it's definitely performing worse than my 2017 9.7", hitting 90%+ CPU right away and producing constant crackles, are there any specific settings you use?

  • are the usb c hubs / headphone thingies latency?free?

    i read something , can't really recall where, that adapters could cause latency in music productions

  • What USB interface are you using?

    I experienced the CPU spikes, but I could keep loading AUv3 6x...
    some AUv3 instruments demanded a 256buffer or crackles...while other AUv3 effects could run at 64 buffer no problem...

    @jipumarino said:
    @nerVe so I managed to borrow a 2018 12.9" iPad Pro, it has iOS 12.1.3. I tested some apps in AUM (DRC, Ruismaker Noir, Kleverb with external input) and it's definitely performing worse than my 2017 9.7", hitting 90%+ CPU right away and producing constant crackles, are there any specific settings you use?

  • @nerVe said:
    What USB interface are you using?

    I experienced the CPU spikes, but I could keep loading AUv3 6x...
    some AUv3 instruments demanded a 256buffer or crackles...while other AUv3 effects could run at 64 buffer no problem...

    @jipumarino said:
    @nerVe so I managed to borrow a 2018 12.9" iPad Pro, it has iOS 12.1.3. I tested some apps in AUM (DRC, Ruismaker Noir, Kleverb with external input) and it's definitely performing worse than my 2017 9.7", hitting 90%+ CPU right away and producing constant crackles, are there any specific settings you use?

    I'm using a Behringer XR18, I just eliminated the powered USB hub that was in the middle and it seems to have improved things a lot. In my case it was the CPU stuck at 90% or more, not spikes. Will report back later :)

  • What hub were you using that caused the issue? How are you connected to the ipad pro now?

    @jipumarino said:

    @nerVe said:
    What USB interface are you using?

    I experienced the CPU spikes, but I could keep loading AUv3 6x...
    some AUv3 instruments demanded a 256buffer or crackles...while other AUv3 effects could run at 64 buffer no problem...

    @jipumarino said:
    @nerVe so I managed to borrow a 2018 12.9" iPad Pro, it has iOS 12.1.3. I tested some apps in AUM (DRC, Ruismaker Noir, Kleverb with external input) and it's definitely performing worse than my 2017 9.7", hitting 90%+ CPU right away and producing constant crackles, are there any specific settings you use?

    I'm using a Behringer XR18, I just eliminated the powered USB hub that was in the middle and it seems to have improved things a lot. In my case it was the CPU stuck at 90% or more, not spikes. Will report back later :)

  • This one connected through this. Now the XR18 is connected directly to it.

    @nerVe said:
    What hub were you using that caused the issue? How are you connected to the ipad pro now?

    @jipumarino said:

    @nerVe said:
    What USB interface are you using?

    I experienced the CPU spikes, but I could keep loading AUv3 6x...
    some AUv3 instruments demanded a 256buffer or crackles...while other AUv3 effects could run at 64 buffer no problem...

    @jipumarino said:
    @nerVe so I managed to borrow a 2018 12.9" iPad Pro, it has iOS 12.1.3. I tested some apps in AUM (DRC, Ruismaker Noir, Kleverb with external input) and it's definitely performing worse than my 2017 9.7", hitting 90%+ CPU right away and producing constant crackles, are there any specific settings you use?

    I'm using a Behringer XR18, I just eliminated the powered USB hub that was in the middle and it seems to have improved things a lot. In my case it was the CPU stuck at 90% or more, not spikes. Will report back later :)

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