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Checking out Lumbeat apps, any advise appreciated
Got a hold of Reggae drummer and iBassist, love and hate it, no audio export, but the grooves are hands down really good!, i saved myself a headache calling a drunkard bass player i know.
Long story short, they are not cheap so i wanted to ask which drum apps have been keepers for users here., and this is because i am not impressed with the Future, mid east and Rock drum app versions....i am also skeptical abut buying soft drummer because i heard better demos of Jazz drummer and thy seem to be on the same boat, more like a upgrade.
Please do share any tracks finished with these apps., thanks!
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Wow. Real sounding drums are not trivial on IOS.
The LUMbeats drummers are the best. They sound like real humans and that's not a trivial
detail.
There are some aging Looped audio based apps like "Session Band" that sound good in a basic pop styles. There are also some Drum Patterns in "Drum Genius" and "Drum School"
that can be used to make fixed length loops.
Most have just changed to using drum machine apps. Th audience doesn't seem to care
that they sound inhuman. Some prefer the capability to make something glitchy and
unlike a traditional studio drummer's efforts. That's a whole art form make hip beats
from very short samples and percussive synth apps.
I don't finish tracks as a rule as don't hold your breath.
Good luck. Find out what the bass player is drinking. Cheers. mate.
Regarding Future Drummer are you sure we're talking about the same app?
Lumbeat apps are awesome. Very natural variations and great for creating new grooves from the fills (if you’re into loop based music).
However, I think DrumPerfect Pro wins the best sounding drums on iOS award. The drums are less FX processed than Lumbeats so you can add your own flavour. Also, the app is DEEP. Lots of control. There’s a nice reggae IAP as well.
I’d say if you pick only one Lumbeats drum app, Reggae is the most versatile. Good choice.
It’s easy enough to record the output using something like AUM or a DAW, so audio export shouldn’t really be a show stopper. Also, with midi out, if you don’t like the sounds, you can run it into something else. Same for iBassist.
I agree with Reggae drummer being most versatile.
I love the 3 different drummer styles in this one.
Very cool.
Soft drummer for me.
+1
Thanks for the prompt response!,
You really think iOS and OSX vs PC makes a difference ?
For example people are suggesting to port BFD3 Expansion and EZdrummer Drums unto IOS devices (to name a few), They offer swap-able midi groove files, export audio and midi, control of mics, position of mics, realistic attack via midi control, internal effects and room impulses etc etc etc
In fact people want Pro Tools on ipads, why not right? after all they are computers crippled by Apple to balance their own marketing.
What attracted me to Lumbeats is the idea you can get the same results and all the same types of traditional reggae, jazz and rock grooves like the apps mentioned above but including styles of certain players as reggae drummer demonstrated., ther ar packs-add ons with BFD etc or loops out there but nothing like Lumbeats implementing the styles the way they did.
If Lumbeats is reading this, **the home run with this product ** ( ios and maybe later even OSX) **is implementing new genres (metal, djen, Industrial, punk, classical, hindi, dance etc) with implemented styles of known musicians (Andy Summers, Robert Fripp Randy Rhoads, Van Halen, John vScofield, Jaco Pastorious, Dr Know etc) by the genre and instrument, as well as jam feature and effcts, all this swap-able.
It will make the work flow faster, easier and dumb proof for even none musicians.
The options BFD and easydrummer offer (midi file drag and drop unto sequencer or sycn, dry or wt effects, a internal drum aux-bus option.
BTW Future drummer is on of the worse apps by Lumbeats, if there is one thing ppl have enough of its drum machines, there are so many classic and new drum machines out there even free that blow Lumbeats ut of the water, it has no chance., sorry
Yes, ironically Future Drummer sounds a little dated... but I do still get good sounds out of it. Have to be very choosy though.
I'm also heavily into DrumPerfect Pro, and I have spent a fair share of getting really good quality multi-velocity sampled drum kits that I can combine into various styles. An often forgotten DPP feature is obviously what the latest batch of drum machines promote quite a bit: you can load any samples in to DPP too.
Having said that though, the Lumbeat apps (I have 4 of them) get quite a lot of use from me, for pattern creation when I'm sketching ideas. I just point them (via midi) towards DPP. That way I get both inventive patterns quickly, with DPP's capabilities of using different samples for repetetive hits etc. In the end I create the patterns for real in DPP, to get ultimate control, probability patterns and chained hits etc, but during sketching I find Lumbeat apps really helpful to get going.
Not quite true about DrumPerfect Pro being best on iOS, since it's only an iPad app. It may be best on just iPadOS....
Lumbeat apps are on iOS and iPadOS.
/Finsishes shaking fist at kids on lawn, takes nap 😀
I'm pretty sure several people on this fine forum would claim their iPads with an installation of iOS12 still is iOS.
You are however right in that DPP is not "universal". I would have to assume one makes a conscious decision about trade-offs when one selects a device. Me, I use two iPhones and one iPad. I obviously only use DPP on the iPad.
I swear this is my last post on semantics! I only post because this was another thread where I see an app mentioned for iOS and go to check it out on the app store, only to not find it.
iPad = iPad (iOS and iPadOS), iPad Pro (iOS and iPadOS)
iOS = iPhone, iPad, iPad Pro
iPhone = iPhone (iOS)
Universal = iPhone (iOS), iPad (iOS and iPadOS), and iPad Pro (iOS and iPadOS)
This is Apple's fault, and at least will go away in the future now that the OS is split. It's accurate to say DrumPerfect Pro is great on an iPad with iOS, but it's not totally accurate to say DrumPerfect Pro is great on iOS. It's not wrong, but it's misleading/confusing.
I only own the Future drums from Lumbeat because they're quite pricey. I was using Gadget to make my music as it was fastest being all-in-one, so, despite having many other apps, never really created songs with them. I'd say it's quite good within what it does. The lack of AUv3 in the app is definitely a constraint.
I differ.. FD is a great app.. can’t wait for the midi export as what is expected in Jazz Drummer..
BTW.. how long again for Jazz Drummer?
if jazz drummer does swing on 8th notes I may have to splurge.
Sorry to jump in
Do you think reggae drummer will go on sale during black Friday?
Can reggae drummer receive midi in ?
Does it have a sequencer , so I can use the sounds but make my own sequences ?
All the videos I have seen never really cover this, and from the demo's, reggae drummer sounds mighty fine, but how flexible is it, I like to feel like I have made the drum loops, or is this drum app perhaps not for me
Thanks in advance for any answers
Beats me.
Umm ... it's supposed to. But just now testing, I couldn't get it to work. Could be I'm doing something wrong.
[edit] yep, it was me. I forgot to put it into "Sound Module" mode. It works, but it doesn't seem to respond on its virtual port, so you have to use a host like Audiobus that can send out its own virtual port. I don't think AUM will work for this on its own. (Could be wrong - again - on this point).
Yes.
You can make the loops, with the added advantage of being able to have the app add flourishes through the "jam" settings, and generate periodic fills if you like.
But, if you're just looking for a drum sequencer, you might want to look into Drum Perfect Pro. It's the deepest drum sequencer on iOS (sometimes too deep for me ... there's a learning curve).
I wouldn't buy Reggae Drummer for what it sounds like you're interested in it for. I use the Lumbeats apps as a shortcut to getting some good drum parts that I didn't program myself. I also generally create my own, but sometimes it's nice to be able to get good results at least temporarily without all that effort.
Thanks @wim
Thanks for the quick and precise answers
I think if it drops over black Friday I will buy it, but I can see the app is perfect for people that don't want to make complete drum loops and want to use it as backing
Many thanks
the couple of videos I saw of jazz drummer the patterns look like they are in 12/8
The only sale there’s been on a Lumbeat app, that I know of, was iBassist.. last Black Friday it was 1/2 price for only 1 day.. stranger things have happened, but I’d be very surprised if it did go on sale.. If anything, they’ve gone up as time goes by, at least the 1st few apps.. might as well wait it out until BF..
I recall all the lumbeats being discounted for about 12 hours or so sometime over the Black Friday week end. You need to watch this space.
FD is possibly the worse drum machine on the market, should be free, the graphics alone looks like someone hacked a DM1 drum machine.
Connect via Twitter, should be available by next year lol!
True. There are a lot of other better options in that vein.
But the @LuisMartinez:
Mid East Drummer
Afro-Cuban Drummer
Funk Drummer
Reggae Drummer
Soft (Serve) Drummer
and less so, Rock Drummer
add a lot of variety and musicality to music in those genres.
My only frustration is the bit of lag time in an AUM mix. Is there a solution to slip it forward
a bit against the AUM metronome?
Great.. thanks for your opinion... just hope that Future Drummer is the first to receive the new Export feature... Love that Drummer.. It’s so nice... 😁😇😎🤣😍
Thank You very much.. 🤣
This is surprising. I find the lock is solid. As a test, I loaded Soft Drummer and created a beat that was just a kick drum on the beat. I loaded SoftDrummer into an AUM channel on my iPad and turned on AUM's metronome. When I pressed play, I recorded the output with my iPhone. The metronome and kick line up perfectly even when I zoom way in. If there were a lag, I'd see transients with an offset. I was using Ableton link. This was on an iPad 6th Gen running iOS 12.3.1.
Do you have the lag even if you just have a LUMBeat app and no other plugins or effects?
Does it matter which sync method you use? (MIDI Clock, Ableton Link, IAA)?
I like to use Ableton since AUM seems to have added the right feature for start/stop.
It's a very short delay but something I would "push" in Logic Pro to get the drummer in the
pocket. I should spend some time audition all the options again. Before AUM updated I was
using AB3 for transport controls which had the advantage of letting me jump between an IAA app and AUM easily. I also need to see if I can split screen AUM and a LUMbeats app.
I only have Soft Drummer and iBassist. Soft Drummer is very good and I can definitely recommend it for some natural sounding drums. Soft Drummer may sound like it’s all brushes and things, but it can get pretty heavy the the stick brushes. Quality samples on that one like seemingly the rest.
Just downloaded softdrummer, kind of what i expect from the new upcoming jazz drummer., i think i will play around with it but most likely cancel it.,
I found out that Apple does allow people to return apps after all, and they stay on your device until you decide to update or re download because of a back up, which means you have more time before thinking abut really buying the app or apps
im just not sure when enough is enough for Apple to do something to your account.
I suspect jazz drummer will have a different sound and feel from Soft Drummer.
Be aware that when you purchase and return, the developer may lose money on the transaction.