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Korg Electribe wave vs Grooverider 16?

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  • rs2000rs2000

    @kobamoto said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @kobamoto said:
    and just to confirm grooverider lets you change sample per step as well right?

    The GR way of doing it is using slices of a sample containing the different sounds.

    so you'd need to know ahead of time and stitch together all related samples you wanted to use into one sample.... has anyone requested a simpler method like maybe the way ton does it?

    What's your use case?
    You can also sample them all live (rec-pause-rec-pause...) in TwistedWave and "open in" GR16.
    You could just as well complain about the complicated slicing workflow in Digitakt 😉

  • wimwim

    From what I understand of GR-16, the architecture wouldn’t allow different samples per step. Everything is loaded into an in-memory database of samples, optimized to be CPU efficient. Slicing works fine for my purposes, though it is always a bit of a pain in any app that doesn’t have transient detection.

  • wimwim

    @apapdop said:
    Hello all, i'm a long time lurker/IOS music maker/Electribe fan, this is my first post on this fantastic forum. Glad to see some familiar names from Soundcloud and the Korg Electribe forum!! Just want to chime in on the main feature that, for me, puts KEW ahead of GR-16. During playback, when you change pattern on KEW, any notes that are sounding at the point of pattern change CONTINUE SOUNDING into the next pattern, unless they are replaced by new notes on the same track. When you change pattern on GR-16, all notes are completely cut off, with no release time, and the new pattern starts. Depending on how you use GR-16, it might not be a deal breaker, but in my case, it was the main issue that lead me to sell both the hardware Electribe 2's i owned and move on.

    All credit to GR-16's developer, he's done a fantastic job of taking the (very sound) concept of the Electribe 2 series, expanding upon it and port it beautifully over to IOS. But unfortunately, for me anyway, he's carried over that fundamental flaw, which is a real shame. If it's addressed in a future update, then i'll be another of the many singing it's considerable praises.

    For what it's worth though, i think KEW is just... fantastic. It's (very nearly) all i've ever wanted in an IOS app and everything else on my ipad is just gathering virtual dust.

    I agree. This is the only thing limitation I’ve found difficult to work around.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    @rs2000 said:

    @kobamoto said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @kobamoto said:
    and just to confirm grooverider lets you change sample per step as well right?

    The GR way of doing it is using slices of a sample containing the different sounds.

    so you'd need to know ahead of time and stitch together all related samples you wanted to use into one sample.... has anyone requested a simpler method like maybe the way ton does it?

    What's your use case?
    You can also sample them all live (rec-pause-rec-pause...) in TwistedWave and "open in" GR16.
    You could just as well complain about the complicated slicing workflow in Digitakt 😉

    complain?... nah, no, nyet, e eh, no way jose, nada.... but I'm not interested in using another app, just the beat machine on it's own... of course audio share will forever be open but... use case would be switching samples on a per step basis like you can on the digitakt without stringing samples together...... but I do string samples together on the digitakt often enough as well.... but it's great to just hit that source button and scroll through sounds you want.

  • rs2000rs2000

    @kobamoto said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @kobamoto said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @kobamoto said:
    and just to confirm grooverider lets you change sample per step as well right?

    The GR way of doing it is using slices of a sample containing the different sounds.

    so you'd need to know ahead of time and stitch together all related samples you wanted to use into one sample.... has anyone requested a simpler method like maybe the way ton does it?

    What's your use case?
    You can also sample them all live (rec-pause-rec-pause...) in TwistedWave and "open in" GR16.
    You could just as well complain about the complicated slicing workflow in Digitakt 😉

    complain?... nah, no, nyet, e eh, no way jose, nada.... but I'm not interested in using another app, just the beat machine on it's own... of course audio share will forever be open but... use case would be switching samples on a per step basis like you can on the digitakt without stringing samples together...... but I do string samples together on the digitakt often enough as well.... but it's great to just hit that source button and scroll through sounds you want.

    I do find the Digitakt + GR16 combo superb. Certainly not perfect but so fun to use. I'd never exchange GR16 for a Digitone btw.

  • kobamotokobamoto

    those are high marks

  • RajahPRajahP

    @gusgranite said:
    Who’s up for doing a GR-16 vs G Stomper (Android) comparison of features?

    Ok.. Did a demo (yes, seems like the Android app store does demos) of G-Stomper on a crappy Samsung tablet.. lots of features.. maybe too much for me at this point.. too much of a ‘learning curve’.. :'(

    Think I will stay and grow on this Groove-Rider... update pending.

  • dustgoddustgod

    Yeah, not into G-stomper. Too fidly. On Android I like Caustic 3 (DAW) and Rd4 (groovebox.)

  • RajahPRajahP

    From Korg.com ‘Lastly, as of today, ELECTRIBE Wave supports AUv3. The powerful wavetable synthesizer that has garnered praise since its launch is now compatible with your favorite iOS DAW software like Garageband, Cubasis and AUM. ‘

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo

    @RajahP said:
    From Korg.com ‘Lastly, as of today, ELECTRIBE Wave supports AUv3. The powerful wavetable synthesizer that has garnered praise since its launch is now compatible with your favorite iOS DAW software like Garageband, Cubasis and AUM. ‘

    Interesting news!

  • audio_DTaudio_DT

    Yeah, I saw this. I was waiting for GR to go on sale but I think I'll give it a miss and buy Electribe now. Just waiting for the update in the store. Will buy instantly :smile:

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited November 2019

    @audio_DT said:
    Yeah, I saw this. I was waiting for GR to go on sale but I think I'll give it a miss and buy Electribe now. Just waiting for the update in the store. Will buy instantly :smile:

    Well, I have them both.. loaded KEW in AUM today with EG Pulse and can only imagine it as an AUv3..

    Edit.. I guess iOS music production is about to change when it is released.. which should be shortly..🙏

  • anicktanickt

    @RajahP said:

    @audio_DT said:
    Yeah, I saw this. I was waiting for GR to go on sale but I think I'll give it a miss and buy Electribe now. Just waiting for the update in the store. Will buy instantly :smile:

    Well, I have them both.. loaded KEW in AUM today with EG Pulse and can only imagine it as an AUv3..

    Edit.. I guess iOS music production is about to change when it is released.. which should be shortly..🙏

    I have both. If I could only have one I’d take GR. It’s a much broader pallet. I consider EW a supplement when I want “that” texture. They’re both great either way. IMHO

  • echooperaechoopera

    I really love Electribe Wave. I put together a playlist of tracks I’ve made in it here:

    And here:

    I own both, but i can never quite get the sound i want out of GR-16 to my liking...

  • RajahPRajahP

    @anickt said:

    @RajahP said:

    @audio_DT said:
    Yeah, I saw this. I was waiting for GR to go on sale but I think I'll give it a miss and buy Electribe now. Just waiting for the update in the store. Will buy instantly :smile:

    Well, I have them both.. loaded KEW in AUM today with EG Pulse and can only imagine it as an AUv3..

    Edit.. I guess iOS music production is about to change when it is released.. which should be shortly..🙏

    I have both. If I could only have one I’d take GR. It’s a much broader pallet. I consider EW a supplement when I want “that” texture. They’re both great either way. IMHO

    Totally agree.. I think KEW AUv3 will put a demand for GR-16 AUv3... with its midi-out, cond-trigs, etc.. KEW has its distinct flavor, and they would work nicely together.... just a matter of min, hours, I hope..

  • rs2000rs2000

    @anickt said:

    @RajahP said:

    @audio_DT said:
    Yeah, I saw this. I was waiting for GR to go on sale but I think I'll give it a miss and buy Electribe now. Just waiting for the update in the store. Will buy instantly :smile:

    Well, I have them both.. loaded KEW in AUM today with EG Pulse and can only imagine it as an AUv3..

    Edit.. I guess iOS music production is about to change when it is released.. which should be shortly..🙏

    I have both. If I could only have one I’d take GR. It’s a much broader pallet. I consider EW a supplement when I want “that” texture. They’re both great either way. IMHO

    Definitely.
    GR is a workstation on its own, much like a beefed-up AKAI MPC.
    For people not into sound design and relying on presets, KEW is probably the better choice.

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited November 2019

    @echoopera said:
    I really love Electribe Wave. I put together a playlist of tracks I’ve made in it here:

    And here:

    I own both, but i can never quite get the sound i want out of GR-16 to my liking...

    Midi Out should solve that..

    I hoping if GR-16 goes Auv3, it shouldn’t take much to tie these pattern based app together (Pulse, StepPolyArp, etc) to create the perfect clip/pattern launcher+ for iOS... with state-saving goodness..

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @echoopera said:
    I really love Electribe Wave. I put together a playlist of tracks I’ve made in it here:

    Always a fan! You certainly have Borg-ed beautifully with this. I don’t know why but the app always felt like a Rubix Cube to me. If it wasn't for your tracks I would blame the app. ;)

  • stormbeatsstormbeats
    edited November 2019

    Gr16 is excellent - i just wish you could sample direct into it as opposed to just Import sounds . Multi IAA Outputs too like Bleass Groovebox & a few others now have would be good.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    to my understanding GR16 uses a 16 bit engine?

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