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Cubasis groove quantize, %quantize - how?
Hi all.
Does a midi plugin exist, that will let me do groove quantize ( match a midi groove from a file) ?
I,m also looking for a plugin, that will let me do non destructive, percentage quantize.
I know that Auria has this to a degree, but for the moment, I would like to use Cubasis, because it seems more stable, when working with Au3s.
Also: Is the midi resolution in Cubasis lower than in Auria Pro?
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Cubasis has much lower timing resolution for audio and midi. Auria Pro's timeline allows events to be placed and moved freely with sample-accurate resolution. Cubasis has a hidden grid (96 ppq, I think, but I could be wrong) and doesn't allow event boundaries not on the grid.unless the last update removed this limitation.
I think that’s correct, 96 ppq. That’s enough for my purposes, but drives others mad.
I know of no plugin that does groove quantize like you’re speaking of @Diffrenzy. I think I understand what you’re looking for, having cut my teeth on FL Studio, which has a great feature for this.
Photon has the ability to apply one midi file to another and come up with a new groove. I think this is intended to do something like what you’re talking about, but I’ve never been able to get it to work as I expect. It’s destructive, but easy to undo and redo. But I doubt this is what you’re after. I only mention it because it comes as close as anything I can think of to the idea.
It would be a totally killer feature for some DAW or sequencer. Sounds right up @SevenSystems alley.
+1 especially if it could also extract groove from a few bars of audio
Many thanks for the feedback.
I think I will try out making tracks in Nanostudio 2, and then exporting audio to Auria Pro.
NS has strength quantizie, but I am unsure of the ppq, I read somewhere that it is 4000+, can anyone confirm that?
Some way to do groove/match quantize in NS would be nice.
I've read that it is 4096, but that wasn't from an authoritative source.
Correction on this. It may be 48pqn.
I have bumped the ppq topic on the NS forum here: https://www.blipinteractive.co.uk/community/index.php?p=/discussion/447/ppqn
Cubasis does seem to be 48 still: https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=59378
Too me, 48 ppq seems to low to do anything but really hard quantize, as it must result in steps in the 10 to 20 milliseconds range for slow bpms.
Modertor dendy at NS: just answered that question with a confirmation that Nanostudio 2 has a ppq of 4096.
I had a thought.
Mozaic can't read files, so it couldn't load a midi file as a groove template or as a file to apply it to. But, it could record midi sent to it to be quantized, and a separate stream to serve as the groove template. It should then be able to play back the midi with the groove applied at various strengths, etc.
None of this would be real-time. It would require two or three steps to get grooveified output, and you'd still need to record that into a DAW or sequencer.
It seems like an interesting little science project, but I have my doubts whether it's worth it given all the steps one would have to go through.
I dunno, just doesn't really seem worth it to me. But, I think it could be done. At least for fairly short passages.
Happy to report this is much improved in Cubasis 3.
The ppq is 960, and it has strength (%) quantize.
It would still be nice to have non destructive quantize and a way to match one parts groove to another, but the above two improvements, makes a big difference to me.