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New KORG Synth?

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  • @MAtrixplan said:

    I like the presentation of this sounds - someone feels the sounds :)

    Indeed, just wish the new Korg app will drop before Christmas so everyone has time to play with it ;)
    And well hope Korg doesn't follow IK's recent path when it comes to hiking up the app prices LOL...

  • Maybe its a NAMM 16th January 2020 reveal.

  • I hope all Korg future apps are AUv3 I can't see them spending months rewriting old apps as AU3 for free. Depends how big their coding team is I suppose and if it makes financial sense.

  • @Jumpercollins said:
    I hope all Korg future apps are AUv3 I can't see them spending months rewriting old apps as AU3 for free. Depends how big their coding team is I suppose and if it makes financial sense.

    If they want new users to buy their older but still good apps, they'll do better to make them AUv3 as well.

    @White said:
    Korg Triton for Mac/Win is out now:

    Thanks!
    On iOS, it might become the one go-to package for people not into buying Module, Gladstone, Madrid etc.

  • Just spotted the news on Twitter. Hopefully iOS soon then.

  • On sale at £299 - down from £399 for the collection. I wonder what price the iOS version will be?

  • R_2R_2
    edited December 2019

    No MOSS unfortunately, also no mentioning of user sampling.
    $199 on sale :|
    I bet the iOS version will have the 8 expansions as iAPs (hopefully not too expensive...)

  • @R_2 said:
    No MOSS unfortunately, also no mentioning of user sampling.
    $199 on sale :|
    I bet the iOS version will have the 8 expansions as iAPs (hopefully not too expensive...)

    When they say "complete" then that means that MOSS will come sooner or later.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @R_2 said:
    No MOSS unfortunately, also no mentioning of user sampling.
    $199 on sale :|
    I bet the iOS version will have the 8 expansions as iAPs (hopefully not too expensive...)

    When they say "complete" then that means that MOSS will come sooner or later.

    Not sure, the sequencer and (more important) user sampling aren’t part of a ‘complete’ Triton either, according to KORG ;)
    It would make sense to announce the MOSS as an upcoming option (would boost sales I think?)

    In case of MOSS it might have to do with licensing:
    This product was developed under license of physical modeling tone generator patents (http://www.sondius- xg.com) owned by Stanford University USA and Yamaha Corporation.

  • edited December 2019

    Keep in mind these prices are for the full Korg vst line (you would have to be crazy to pay 300-400 for Triton sounds in 2019.)

  • Aby comments for IOS version from our friend @davis_korgrd ?

  • edited December 2019

    Not seeing upgrade price for Korg collection if you own old bundle already?

  • @R_2 said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @R_2 said:
    No MOSS unfortunately, also no mentioning of user sampling.
    $199 on sale :|
    I bet the iOS version will have the 8 expansions as iAPs (hopefully not too expensive...)

    When they say "complete" then that means that MOSS will come sooner or later.

    Not sure, the sequencer and (more important) user sampling aren’t part of a ‘complete’ Triton either, according to KORG ;)
    It would make sense to announce the MOSS as an upcoming option (would boost sales I think?)

    In case of MOSS it might have to do with licensing:
    This product was developed under license of physical modeling tone generator patents (http://www.sondius- xg.com) owned by Stanford University USA and Yamaha Corporation.

    Good point!
    But I don't think that a slightly higher price due to licensing fees would stop people from buying a MOSS IAP :smiley:

  • edited December 2019

    @auxmux said:
    Not seeing upgrade price for Korg collection if you own old bundle already?

    There's a demo. Went to the Korg shop to d/l it and was asked to download a Korg software installer manager.
    Installed, Signed in to app, Demo available through that...also, upgrades to all Korg collection instruments are available. App is flaky as hell. Crashed about 15 times while updating the instruments. They’re not GUI updates so don’t get too excited.

    In my Korg ID account (website) there is a highlighted notice and a discount code (for Legacy Collection owners). A little ambiguous but I think the discounted Triton price for Collection owners is $149.00 USD. FWIW, the code doesn’t change the price.

  • I think I will wait and buy the Gadget version (desktop and IOS) when it becomes available.

  • I'm pretty well stocked on Korg sounds, but I'm waiting for the Gadget version just for all the expansions. The current asking price for the Triton plugin is a bit high...almost at the used price of the hardware (Triton rack, LE, Trinity rack, etc). I found a used Triton Le on craigslist in 2013 for around $200 and before that copped an Oasys PCI card for around $100.

    This is a little off-topic, but let me say the Oasys card was something special. It was pretty much all the Korg R&D of the time (1999-2000) squeezed into one PCI card. It has the basic algorithms from the the Prophecy/Z1, MS2000/Microkorg, and Electribes, plus the core Triton ROM sounds. Since it's running on the hardware DSP, there's no latency at all. It had very good converters with ADAT in/out.

    The only downsides were:

    1. DSP at that time was pretty expensive, so the card is a little underpowered. You can max the resources out pretty quickly and you can't stack mulitiple cards.
    2. They sold badly. Korg lost so much money on the cards, they refused to update the drivers. It only works well on a OS9 Mac.(remember those?) That's what Korg gets for trying to charge $2000 for a soundcard. I found a mint B+W Mac on ebay for $30 and had Ableton send me a license for the last version of Ableton Live that runs on OS9 (v4 i think). Plug in a USB keyboard = Instant workstation. It sits in a little corner of my studio and still works great.
  • more expensive than I was expecting it to come out, but kind of makes sense since it's newer. I imagine the samples from the expansions probably still have much higher licensing cost since theyre more modern compared to the M1 and a number of them probably still get sold in modern sample packs today. maybe the iOS version will have a lower cost but with a higher cost for the IAPs, so the base app gets more widespread

    shame that it doesn't have the ability to import/export the Triton format patch files in the VST (or at least currently), was really hoping it could also serve as a patch editor for real hardware

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  • edited December 2019

    @StudioES said:
    So its just the ROM from the Triton series?

    I love the original KORG Legacy Collection, but why on earth haven't they fixed the standalone sample rate/driver issue & tiny graphics? It's been 20 years already. Reminds me of current iOS problems.

    this new VST at least has a size selector, so you can make it bigger on HiDPI screens. the other Korg Collection VSTs sorely need that as an update

    to install the demo you have to install some new loader application, which also showed updates for my M1 and Wavestation VSTs, but the patch notes for them both were just stability things. but with that as a new delivery method hopefully theyll do more updates to them in the future

  • @StudioES said:
    So its just the ROM from the Triton series?

    I love the original KORG Legacy Collection, but why on earth haven't they fixed the standalone sample rate/driver issue & tiny graphics? It's been 20 years already. Reminds me of current iOS problems.

    Anyone use the Korg Gadgets VSTis on Windows? Are they reliable? NKS support & the pricetag are nice.

    There was a news piece a while ago about redesigned GUI and user feedback based updates to KLC, that was over a year ago though! I did contact them recently and they couldnt give any further info, but surely the update is coming soon, that Polysix VST is almost unusable-y bad 😕

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  • @StudioES yes, I agree Surge VST is pretty amazing and FREE 🙂

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  • @StudioES said:

    @Trueyorky said:
    @StudioES yes, I agree Surge VST is pretty amazing and FREE 🙂

    Recently updated to VST3 too. I never heard about it when it was a paid product. They have a seperate VST FX too but it doesn't seem to want to work on my new Windows laptop, though I'm currently stuck using WASAPI (Shared) drivers at 48kHz, so that may be it.

    The Korg Gadget VST bundle at $149 comes to just over $3.50 per plugin (>40 plugs). Tempting, though I'm trying not to duplicate what I already have on iOS. (Sugar Bytes Bundle at $399 too).

    I got the Gadget bundle and really impressed I can export my iOS Gadget projects into Ableton Suite and breathe new life into them !!

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