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What comes close to Serato Sample?

I tempted to buy Serato Sample on osx, but the pricetag is too steep for me.
What comes close to Serato Sample for IpadOS? (Key detection, stretch, ease of use etc.)
BM3 comes in mind, but its a full DAW. I want to use something that can be used in AUM in combination with something like Atom/Piano Roll.
Egoist would be a second, but i want it to be more simplified.

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  • @Identor said:
    I tempted to buy Serato Sample on osx, but the pricetag is too steep for me.
    What comes close to Serato Sample for IpadOS? (Key detection, stretch, ease of use etc.)
    BM3 comes in mind, but its a full DAW. I want to use something that can be used in AUM in combination with something like Atom/Piano Roll.
    Egoist would be a second, but i want it to be more simplified.

    BM3 is the only thing vaguely in the ball park. Nothing on iOS has Serato's quality of beat and key detection. I don't even know if any other app on desktop does (but I am pretty ignorant). So, for beat and key detection, you will have to use your ears. If you have a neatly selected selection of known length (one bar, two bars, whatever), Auditor can tell you the bpm. I generally just tap along to a song in any app that has tap tempo to determine the tempo.

    Serato Sample periodically is available for steep discounts.

  • Nothing...I’d LOVE to have it on iOS!

  • Both Serato Sample and Ableton Simpler would make some pretty sweet AUv3's if they ever make it to iOS/iPadOS...

  • Chomplr seems similar in some aspects but still in development...

  • edited March 2020

    @Identor said:
    I tempted to buy Serato Sample on osx, but the pricetag is too steep for me.
    What comes close to Serato Sample for IpadOS? (Key detection, stretch, ease of use etc.)
    BM3 comes in mind, but its a full DAW. I want to use something that can be used in AUM in combination with something like Atom/Piano Roll.
    Egoist would be a second, but i want it to be more simplified.

    You do know you can download Serato Sample LE if you have a Novation product.. and get an upgrade to the full version for like $50...

    And, there is nothing like Serato Sample.. it is unique...

    Edit..

    https://support.serato.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001333016-Serato-Sample-LE

  • @RajahP said:
    And, there is nothing like Serato Sample.. it is unique...

    Yeah not so much, it is simplistic in use, that is it's main advantage over anything else, everything it does can be done elsewhere.

  • @Turntablist said:

    @RajahP said:
    And, there is nothing like Serato Sample.. it is unique...

    Yeah not so much, it is simplistic in use, that is it's main advantage over anything else, everything it does can be done elsewhere.

    Example?

  • @Turntablist said:

    @RajahP said:
    And, there is nothing like Serato Sample.. it is unique...

    Yeah not so much, it is simplistic in use, that is it's main advantage over anything else, everything it does can be done elsewhere.

    Can you share some details. I am eager to use the apps you speak of because I don't know of any AUv3 that can do everything (well) that it does (well). BeatMaker 3 does a lot of what it does well, but it isn't AU.

  • It goes on sale if you can wait.

  • edited March 2020

    @Identor said:
    I tempted to buy Serato Sample on osx, but the pricetag is too steep for me.
    What comes close to Serato Sample for IpadOS? (Key detection, stretch, ease of use etc.)
    BM3 comes in mind, but its a full DAW. I want to use something that can be used in AUM in combination with something like Atom/Piano Roll.
    Egoist would be a second, but i want it to be more simplified.

    Nothing really but if someone can help talk the developer of Sound Weaver into adding core midi, AUV3 support and time stretching this would be pretty much the closest thing to it.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sound-weaver/id1194964172

    What’s weird is that is named Samplewave on my IPad and also when I searched for it on the AppStore using SampleWave it showed Sound Weaver ??? I guess the name got changed ??? 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • Thanks for all the comments. BM3 seems to be the most reliable option.
    I hope in the future someone will come up with a good (time stitching and beat matching) sampler.

  • @Identor said:
    Thanks for all the comments. BM3 seems to be the most reliable option.
    I hope in the future someone will come up with a good (time stitching and beat matching) sampler.

    "Reliable" may not be the best descriptor of BM3. The sampler is full-featured but it's imprisoned in a very ambitious labyrinth of a DAW. I'm not the only one to beg for a standalone BM3 sampler.

  • edited March 2020

    @Strizbiz said:

    @Identor said:
    I tempted to buy Serato Sample on osx, but the pricetag is too steep for me.
    What comes close to Serato Sample for IpadOS? (Key detection, stretch, ease of use etc.)
    BM3 comes in mind, but its a full DAW. I want to use something that can be used in AUM in combination with something like Atom/Piano Roll.
    Egoist would be a second, but i want it to be more simplified.

    Nothing really but if someone can help talk the developer of Sound Weaver into adding core midi, AUV3 support and time stretching this would be pretty much the closest thing to it.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sound-weaver/id1194964172

    What’s weird is that is named Samplewave on my IPad and also when I searched for it on the AppStore using SampleWave it showed Sound Weaver ??? I guess the name got changed ??? 🤷🏽‍♂️

    Such a frustrating piece of software. The randomizer is unique on iOS, I believe, but the complete lack of connectivity makes it unusable. One would have to go through an external audio interface and resample with a different app. Noooope.

    Tried to find a way to contact the developer but all I got was a website for his older app Zillidrone.

    The Schrödinger’s name thing is just icing on the frustration cake.

  • @Turntablist said:

    @RajahP said:
    And, there is nothing like Serato Sample.. it is unique...

    Yeah not so much, it is simplistic in use, that is it's main advantage over anything else, everything it does can be done elsewhere.

    It’s also the timestretching algorithm serato uses, it just sounds great. BM3 has a good algo but I prefer serato.

  • Well, i bought Serato Sample eventually. I couldn't resist. With a (small) discount from Beats Accurate.
    I used it in Bitwig and like it so far.

    The only downside of Serato Sample: You can't (as far as i can see) go up in pitch per slice like the way SquarePusher, Aphex Twin or Venetian Snares does. Only one slice is available to do pitch variation. BM3 on the other hand can do this for all slices, because you can change per pad to the piano roll.

  • I got it half off around the holidays. Seems to go on sale like that once I year I think. $30 amazing purchase.

  • @RajahP said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @RajahP said:
    And, there is nothing like Serato Sample.. it is unique...

    Yeah not so much, it is simplistic in use, that is it's main advantage over anything else, everything it does can be done elsewhere.

    Example?

    Example of what ? Give me an example of something it does that nothing else does, otherwise it is not unique.

  • @Shiro said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @RajahP said:
    And, there is nothing like Serato Sample.. it is unique...

    Yeah not so much, it is simplistic in use, that is it's main advantage over anything else, everything it does can be done elsewhere.

    It’s also the timestretching algorithm serato uses, it just sounds great. BM3 has a good algo but I prefer serato.

    Yeah Serato where pretty much the first in the game with a hi quality stretching plugin on PT years ago, their legacy in that area is quite good, but it is nothing special on the desktop, Reaper has a bigger selection of stretch algos and those are as good as and much worse than (In a good way, windowed ala oldschool Akai ETC) and that is just a single DAW.
    There is very little that is unique about Serato, again, it is the way a bunch of useful things are combined in to a simple plugin.

  • @Identor said:
    Well, i bought Serato Sample eventually. I couldn't resist. With a (small) discount from Beats Accurate.
    I used it in Bitwig and like it so far.

    The only downside of Serato Sample: You can't (as far as i can see) go up in pitch per slice like the way SquarePusher, Aphex Twin or Venetian Snares does. Only one slice is available to do pitch variation. BM3 on the other hand can do this for all slices, because you can change per pad to the piano roll.

    Thanks for this. Baser on your overview, would something like Effectrix + Beatmaker 3 have made the difference?

    And yeah, I'm also on the fence of getting Serato Sample

  • @Turntablist said:

    @RajahP said:

    @Turntablist said:

    @RajahP said:
    And, there is nothing like Serato Sample.. it is unique...

    Yeah not so much, it is simplistic in use, that is it's main advantage over anything else, everything it does can be done elsewhere.

    Example?

    Example of what ? Give me an example of something it does that nothing else does, otherwise it is not unique.

    No AU on IOS (which is what we are talking about) has pitch or time modulation of Serato’s quality that I know of. BeatMaker 3 is not an AU. No app on iOS that I know of AU or not has beat and key detection of similar quality.

    Please enlighten us about the iOS AU equivalents.

  • How about Virsyn Reslice? I don't have Serato Sampler or Reslice. Something like Palindrome or Redux on iOS would be cool.

  • @Sequencer1 said:
    How about Virsyn Reslice? I don't have Serato Sampler or Reslice. Something like Palindrome or Redux on iOS would be cool.

    Reslice is a great app. It doesn't do the things we are talking about though.

  • I guess Drambo promises what we are looking for in a sampler on iOS and more..

  • @RajahP said:
    I guess Drambo promises what we are looking for in a sampler on iOS and more..

    But does it time stretch?

  • edited March 2020

    @Clueless said:

    @RajahP said:
    I guess Drambo promises what we are looking for in a sampler on iOS and more..

    But does it time stretch?

    I think it does.. looking at this video again.. It better ...

    Edit.. @ around 12:00 into the video, it ‘was’ promised..

  • I mean i read in the giant Drambo thread that it comes with no time-stretch algo. Maybe it changed?
    But i see just pitch up/down so far.

  • @Clueless said:
    I mean i read in the giant Drambo thread that it comes with no time-stretch algo. Maybe it changed?
    But i see just pitch up/down so far.

    You are correct.. but it is promised.. he says it may be there on release at about 12 min into the video.. that was sometime ago.. maybe things have changed..

  • Much content for free. A bit less productive than Serato (workflow), bur a goos alternative.

  • @Identor said:
    Well, i bought Serato Sample eventually. I couldn't resist. With a (small) discount from Beats Accurate.
    I used it in Bitwig and like it so far.

    The only downside of Serato Sample: You can't (as far as i can see) go up in pitch per slice like the way SquarePusher, Aphex Twin or Venetian Snares does. Only one slice is available to do pitch variation. BM3 on the other hand can do this for all slices, because you can change per pad to the piano roll.

    ReSlice maybe can do what you need. Its pitching options are nice (resembles to what VP9000/Vsynth/VariOS done back in the day)

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