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I think it's 3 levels, tab, press, press harder, it also does continues aftertouch (so it realizes u r pressing softer or harder now) and gives haptic feedback (clack you pressed something), that's not to bad for a flat piece of glas
actually it's a lot of high tech voodoo I like ^^
I agree it's cool, but those three levels are just that. 3 levels.
And the aftertouch is like eg: 3-2-3-1
The Roli has 127 levels per finger in all 3 axis. so aftertouch is like eg: 127-126-125-124...
I'm not dissing the 3d touch, I just think they aren't really comparable in a music context. The 3d touch is more a utility based thing IMHO
For half the price i would buy it...... but nah.... way too expensive. Wish i could try one of these.
You all gotta watch this!
Not only is it an awesome jam between two musicians it really shows what's so cool about the Roli
They always do so boring demos, let's imitate real instruments. Zzzzzz
Buchla 222e is also very interesting - Multi-Dimensional Kinesthetic Input Port
talking about way to expensive ^^
@sebastian huh, no embedded Vimeo video from url?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I bet there is an easier and cheaper way of doing this using similar touchy keyboard like on volca series.
But for sure we will see more of this kind of controllers. I mean the iPad Pro (and the smaller ones too of course) can transform virtually in many controllers and/or instruments but feeling really what you do is more fun.
Maybe some day we have touch screens which can transform into real buttons and sliders.
What would be neat if Apple ( or others) could create an accessory to the iPad: a rubbery, crystal clear panel that snaps flush onto the ipad with the magnetic clasp effect, and provides 127 levels of velocity. When done it could be lifted off with ease. Wacom Cintiq does this with their stylus. It would have to be finger triggered to be multi-touch
^ I wonder if Apple will open up the iPad Pro keyboard connector -- ooo -- to other types of input, not just qwerty. It does provide power.
And Logitech has already announced their own keyboard/case for iPad Pro.
I'm curious if the lightning connector might supply a bit more power, opening up some more options for hardware.
Good question. And is it still usb 2 only?
(3 2 3 1) x 3
velocity + aftertouch
that's 9 instead of 1
or is it 6?
lol, it's more than 3
Due to my illness and poor hand coordination, I'm more interested in what they can come up with on a large touch screen. I can't control pressure between my digits as well as I can positioning on a 2d plane.
synthQ has an interesting keyboard. TC11, Selune Redux, Gestrument and Thumbjam all have interesting ideas. The more I think about these on a larger surface for playing, the more the iPad Pro appeals to me.
Yes TJ, DJ, TC11 and most onscreen keyboard apps should be much more playable.
Oh damn.... now i saw a few videos and it also comes with great software included. I really think about now to get it maybe. 2 octaves is a bit odd but i can't afford the big one for sure. I like my Samson Graphite 49 but this thing will be awesome with some synths and string and guitar libraries as well. Also Mitosynth and Animoog played with this thing could be really add another dimension.
I'm now really on the topic here. Instead a 32GB iPad pro i would get this for sure before..... i must look for the german prices. My birthday is near
I got this response from Roli when requesting about the iPad compatibilty:
Thanks for contacting ROLI Support and for your questions.
Yes, via the Apple Camera Connection Kit, the RISE can be used with the iPad. There is a growing number of third party iOS apps that work well the RISE. Cubasis and NanoStudio to name a couple. We will be frequently updating our FAQs page so please check there for updates about this in the coming weeks.
We are exploring the possibility of an iOS version of Equator but don't yet have anything to report. Have a great weekend
Just wait for haptic on the iPad then get the team who brought 'tuna knobs' to produce a rubber overlay for the iPad! Force feedback with feeling.
Huh? Tuna knobs reduces the touchscreen to just one "picture that u stick knobs on " - bad idea. It ruins everything.
The iPad might work great as midi controller (like Animoog) but it's still far away from a midi controller like this seaboard. It has at least one dimension more. 3D-Touch could be nice too but the resolution would be just some steps and more kind of an on/off switch rather than a smooth transition for modulation of any kind. The X and Y achsis are usable, the Z not really. Here the idevices could use gyrometer etc. like ThumbJam but it's not polyphonic then.
Wouldn't the K-Board be a cheap alternative?
http://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/k-board/
'Twas only a joke of sorts, but it could work I was thinking an overlay for the full screen, an app that uses this overlay to output midi and with audiobus remote, control other apps that it sends midi to.
Complecs&Easy
:)X
Ps:will watch it
If I had 800 to blow on music gear tomorrow I would probably get an iPad pro. Nothing comes close in v> @lala said:
I was just talking about the z axis.. And the numbers refer to the levels it can sense of pressure.
It has 3 levels of pressure.
Roli has 127. That's all I was trying to illustrate with that explanation. Bit hard to convey.
The aftertouch is still switching between those 3 levels.
These have a DSP synth built in, programmable via the software, does it have midi in, for CC's?
I love the Rise but I see two big issues: Configuring it for different instruments (which depends heavily on the software), especially those that imitate existing instruments, and learning that configuration so you can play it with some skill. A great example in their video is the flute trills. Unless you've learned and practiced it well so you know how to activate and use that trill (and the other ornaments and other unique characteristics) it's going to sound like a cardboard performance.
One of my favorite masters in this regard is Stevie Wonder.
I played a Roli Stage today in a music shop - it felt a bit strange, but at the same time you could see the massive potential, and I don't think it would take long to get used to it - colour me impressed! (But too expensive for me...)
I'm going to order the rise maybe in the next few days. The only downside is that i can't use the X and Y achsis like in Animoog. A flat screen can have also good things
However it looks nice and it's ready to order in my prefered german music store and i would like to use the integrated equator synth as well.
@Cinebient, does it come with editing software on the Mac or PC to map CCs to each of its five dimensions of touch; so something like Animoog can be used?