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That's cool. One question for you is why not spend the money on a kick ass laptop? You've got the iPad/iPhone already. There are hardly any music apps for Windows tablet and they can't communicate with Ableton. I'm sure you've seen my posts where I talk about using the iPad as an effects plugin/synth for Ableton with Audiobus.
This way you get a powerful laptop for your DAW and plugins, and have the advantage of the wide variety of iOS music apps to chose from.The best of both worlds. The Surface is a jack of all trades but a master of none. :-)
yep
mkell424 his windows tablet runs desktop software natively.
I'm talking about an Apple OSX/iOS hybrid.
I moved from desktop to laptop then to ipad and got fed up 3 years in with 'the wait' so i sold it and got a surface. I dont have a studio due to family expansions and portability is key.
Surface alone fits my requirements and ipad apps were cheap and are still on my account.
I do like the look of surface book though
I loved my ipad and my kids and family all have them, variety is the spice of life.
We'll just have to take a quick list of these Surface owners who are so fulfilled with their device and music-making capabilities that they will no longer have the time or desire to keep posting here.
I mean it isn't difficult to separate trolls and FUD-spreaders on a forum that is completely iOS, and thus Apple, specific, is it?
If they bump a Microsoft Surface thread everyday, or every post they make is about one, maybe that's a clue.
+1
I bought a Dell desktop Windows PC a few years ago and the specs and numbers were incredible - on paper the fastest computer I've ever owned by a factor of about ten. The reality: runs at about a quarter of the speed of my previous, ancient PC.
Specs can be misleading - it's how well the hardware, OS and software work together, and in this respect Apple (generally) do very well.
Interesting analysis there...not familiar with the acronym FUD though.
I tend to keep an openminded approach and use both Windows Surface and Apple's iPad & iPhone.
I first learned of the Surface Pro 3 on this forum and am extremely grateful.
It will be interesting to see how microsoft do in terms of developing both software and hardware for sure.
What's to stop other PC manufacturers from matching or beating Microsofts's Surface Pro in features; and especially price?
Exactly as the Surface's competition is every touch enabled Windows device cheaper than it, by any company.
At least an iPad Pro doesn't have direct competitors with the same specs under its price range for the same OS.
Surface's will not be able to retain value because of that.
I just have a difficult time grasping how someone truly satisfied with their new Surface keeps finding themself on this specific forum. It seems a massive disconnect. Or at least circumstantial proof that they really aren't too satisfied with it.
Surely a person satisfied with a Surface would find a music-making forum dedicated to it a better investment of time, if they actually have time since their productivity issues have been answered, than an iOS music-making forum based around an iOS only product (Audiobus).
I joined this forum in 2012 when i got my first iPad so i guess you could say after 6500 visits that old habits die hard
That and the fact i still use iPhone to create music
Hi Dave Magoo, I can't speak for AQ808 but I do think what you are doing here is very rude. You obviously believe you have a chosen a superior platform to the rest of us with your switch to the surface pro, yet you decide to use the Audiobus iOS forum to talk up the next generation of Microsoft hardware. The Audiobus guys have provided a brilliant forum here and I think it is a bit of a slap in the face to them for members to be promoting a rival OS. Frankly I am amazed how much shit they put up with, In all fairness a little bit of respect on their own forum would be the decent thing.
I will add that I do get the same unsettled feelings about some of the other posters on here who carry on about how shit iOS is and how they will be going back to windows (any day now) In all seriousness you guys are never going to be happy here and maybe its time you find some other way to amuse yourselves
But this forum is not only iOS these days (i know maybe it should be) it´s all about music. There is again this iOS music vs. music... also these days there are some iOS apps which exist also on other platforms.
Or make a poll if we should just discuss iOS things here. 
of course if one of the Audiobus developers doesn´t want us to talk about other tools or OS it would be O.K. and i shut up too
But most here (me included) which are dissapointed by iOS and apple idevices are still in love with the apps we have and will get on iOS..... You can love and hate a thing!
It´s still one of the forum with less flamewars
I'm happy to hear what's going on with other platforms, and off-topic hardware synths that threaten to empty my wallet. As for @DaveMagoo - I've always thought of him as one of the good guys - and not an iOS hater like some of the buggers that turn up, cause trouble and then go away again. Always interesting to hear how he's getting on, over on the dark side...
Hi Cinebient, I am glad you responded because you were one of those people I alluded to in my post. You guys don't realise how much of a downer your regular negative iOS posts have on other members, I will be the first to admit iOS is problematic. but I am the type of person who thrives on positivity but starts to doubt everything when faced with a constant stream of criticism. You might feel better after unloading your frustrations about the limits placed on your creativity by an immature operating system but it works the opposite way for others. for me it often raises doubts about time and money invested in something that should be a bit of fun at the very least.
I hope @Apple monitors this forum; because good constructive critism is important to keep competitive and satisfy music makers' needs.
But everything has a dark and light side. You could just ignore those threads. For me it works the other way that too much hype for apple doesn't help to solve the issues we might have.
I also still make free patches for iOS synths and some other things for iOS (i wish i had more time for it).
Like i said.... if negative comments are not allowed i have no problem to go away for ever.
It's like religion and politics.... you always "hurt" someone.
.... oh and every forum needs a bad guy
Edit: And i also bothered lots of developers of my favourite tools that they should consider an iOS version in future and i often say on KVR that there are awesome things available for iOS which many people seems not aware of. So sometimes i even fight for iOS in the dark....
Really?...LOL
I really don't give a shit about your moral whining and you're not going to be telling people here what they should be writing about or not. If you told me that I tell you to go %&*$ yourself.
Just don't troll here, or any thread where the words "windows" , "surface 3" etc are mentioned...
Well said - music didn't start with iOS, so why should we just talk iOS here, amongst iOS apps how many cross different platforms hardware, software, OSX, dare I even say Windows, ahhh, said it.
lets not fight each other, it's the computers that are the enemy lol
I think the opinions expressed here are fine. The thread title is clear, so don't come reading about the competition if you don't want to hear about it. ;-)
I would rather have forum members have this type of thread available for complaints. And In fairness, we'll trust that these same members will stay on topic on all the other app specific threads and make helpful contributions to each discussion while withholding their general iOS complaints.
Yes! And see how clever they are, turning us on each other...
Bah, humbug to all the MS haters. I don't care one way or another. What it comes down to is what you want to run, and if the apps you want run where you want them, and you can do what you want, it's a great system. I have worked in OSX for the past three years at work, for years in MS before that. The only advantage to having Unix behind OSX for me is that I write apps that run on Linux, so I can write and test easily on my desktop. Windows is just as easy if not easier to work in. I don't love either company, they are both large corporate machines who only care that I can buy things from them. I love the iPad, I love the environment I'm in. The apps on Windows are desktop apps, and way more expensive. The Surface is way more expensive than my iPad. If it was flipped the other way around, that's where I'd be.
The thing that Apple have to learn is that in creating the iPad they created a device that is neither desktop nor iPhone, but yet we are tied to the iPhone OS, with this instability and the need to constantly upgrade OS and device on a near annual basis, will IMO cause more and more people to leave the device for a more stable mobile environment. The question is does that exist.
@banjofran I understand where you are coming from. I think we all get pissed off from time to time.
I agree with you about the Apple vs Microsoft debate. I've been debating about it since the 90s. Back then it was Linux vs Microsoft.
I don't see anything negative about hearing what's happening on rival platforms, it's good to know. I find it hard to understand how people can take these things so personally.