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Which rhythmic gate?
I'm looking for a trance gate effect.
Haven't found one in Tonestack. Turnado and Effectrix do not deliver satisfying results.
Can anyone recommend a nice and easy trance gate effect for live inputs, please?
EDit: I found WOW and Turnado do all the trance gating i need. Thx everybody.
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@dreamrobe Weirdly (perhaps) my favorite trance gate is the one that comes with Looptical. I'm sure there are others which are more sophisticated (maybe), but when looking for that sort of action this one always seems to deliver something interesting.
Same here...
I even asked the dev if he would make a separate app for that! lol
I would buy it. Especially if they did it in the style of Klevgränd (non-discreet nudge @sundhage etc:)...
there's a gate effect on the Launchpad, though to be able to edit parameters you have to purchase an iap.
you could use StepPolyArp maybe with midi CC and draw in the gates?
I've been looking for dedicated 'trans-gate' with custom patterns for a while too.
Most synths support 'Expression' (CC11) so it's fairly simple to use any step-sequencer (ie. midiSTEPs) to chop up the sound. I prefer to use CC11 as it leaves the volume (CC7) alone making it easier to control a tracks over all volume. I've set up one of he pads on the MPK Mini 2 to control CC11 so it's possible to 'play' the gate effect, i.e.. when button is pressed/held down the sound passes thru but once released it's cut again.
For live 'trance gate-fx' there is still a void to be filled when it comes to iOS apps...
I don't really know what is a trance gate but just found a preset in WOW called Trancegate...
Thank you all for the suggestions.
I'm processing some synthlines from the Volca Keys through a Sonic Port VX so no midi solutions.
Looptical has indeed a nice trance gate and i might use it for some tracks.
It's just that i'd like to use a delay after that and the one in Looptical is a bit too simple.
So i will have to export it again and that is just a bit overkill for want i wanted to do.
The Launchpad app seems to only to import audio and not applying a live fx.
I tried Turnado again and got it working. The phase dial is very handy.
It would be perfect if Tonestack had a trance gate. Gonna send them a pedal request.
I mustn't have seen the memo. What is a 'trance gate' and why does Looptical provide the necessaries in this department?
This one for iOS (VPS Trance Gate) would be almost instal-buy if it was available for iOS
The important part is you feed in long, usually continuous sounds -- notes or chords, typically pad or string type sounds -- and the trance gate chops that up into discrete note-like segments, bursts of sound with a simple off-on-off volume envelope. You choose a pattern to create a rhythmic loop. Play different chords and you get a rhythmic effect similar to an arpeggiator except with whole, un-broken chords instead of "broken" ones (arpeggios).
Like Z3ta's 2nd page feature.
I am guessing the term itself is "post Millennium" lexicon by people who probably were not around in the 90s
So @Rustik repeatedly triggering an envelope to modulate the amplitude of an input signal?
Pretty much.
In fact, pretty subjective in my opinion. Like most things I guess.
But, I am the kind of person prefers to say "House music" ----not Minimal, techno, progressive, trance, dub, vocal --- when speaking about things in real life.
Thats just me.
On a relevant note, ARPIST is great for the sound and totally free.
I would probably call it tremolo!
Tried Arpist and deleted it recently, couldn't get on with it at all.
Here's what I did and am stoked about Arpist.
Put on IPhone.
Argon.
Picked a deep Horn/Bass with a bend sound.
PhyganFlam(pardon spelling driving) and tweaked the gate / and thru in some flam/holds and loved the sound.
I am totally not deep into it so I may not have a good idea at all.
I will get back with you after I try it on IPad tonight.
Did I mention it is an ARP machine for IPhone?
That is big for me.
Yeah I can understand how some people might love it but it drove me mad with it's erratic behaviour when I was trying to work with the blocks in song mode. Could well have been user error but I found it an exercise in frustration.
It seems Arpist is for midi only.
Totally forgot about Sugar Bytes WOW Filter.
Start with an init with lfo. Dial Volume down and volume modulation up.
For the stepsequencer and wobble to work send WOW a midi clock like from Cubasis.
One thing that's messed me up with Arpist is that you'll get no sound unless you've selected notes in the "Keyboard" page.
Also the "song blocks" are pretty key to how the thing works. You can have up to 8 blocks per patch and I'm pretty sure not all 8 blocks are activated in the default preset. To activate blocks drag your finger across them and they change to a lighter color blue. I can't remember but it might be possible to turn all blocks off which would cause the app to not send any MIDI.
Never thought about having Arpist drive a sustained patch for a gated effect. I'm going to give it a shot tonight.
Have you messed with running your sounds through Johnny Trem? it has lots of variables though it is, of course, not so designed for this sort of rhythmic thing exactly, but you can beat-sync it and you can control it via MIDI so my using something like Midi-Machine or Arpist, you could combine them to get where you want to go.
Also, something like Sugarbytes' Cyclop would let you do some rhythmic gating to a longer sample, but I have to agree with you, there is nothing that is very good at this on iOS.
Opportunity knocks for some developer....
Thank you boberto. I looked Johnny up and found that i was eligible for the bundle as it was the last fx missing.
It does not have a sequencer for different rhythmic gate pattern like WOW or Turnado but it has stereo settings which the other 2 do not provide.
Not the cheapest or most straightforward option but it can be done in Auria with Fabfilter Pro G. You can set any track in the project as a side chain, and that can be filtered, so you could for example trigger to gate to open when the hi-hats are hit.
When Auria Pro comes out with MIDI then you could easily create a simple MIDI track to trigger the gate.
Not iOS, but ...
http://soniccharge.com/forum/topic/629-happy-halloween
Yep, It is exactly that—a clock-synced square wave LFO repeatedly triggering an envelope. A super end of level boss mode trance gate could probably be whipped up in something like Audulous.
Usually the UI is sorta purpose built to be a rhythmic tremolo with an adjustable wave shape though vs patching craziness. So, sync is the default with easy options to change the clock division (1/4, 1/16...) and usually has the ability to adjust the envelope shape. I haven't used one for years but it seemed like there were about 150 VST versions available around 2000.
I had a go at making one in SunVox which was easier than expected. It's kind of odd that it gets associated with one type of music when this effect has been used in many genres over the years.
@Jocphone Of course—who doesn't love tremolo?—but it was sort of a key element of 90s trance. Like the way people have used LFOs on basslines since LFOs and basslines but it's an essential ingredient in dubstep. Also, just practically, since "gate" already has a specific meaning with music gear, trance gate was/is a sort of specifier. Indeed, when I first used the effect it was with an external (traditional) gate using an output from my drum machine as the gate's key. Think that's how it was entirely done at first. Then, plugins.
Funny how those of us of a certain age who didn't dance (too busy in the back room) still think of the suffix-gate as a Chuck Colson production.
For the record I went back and had a snuffle around Rhythm Studio tonight. Probably been a year, maybe even two. This does have rudimentary but highly effective gate effect on the mixer panel.
Still a weird old beast, but there's no arguing with the 'Control Panel MK11' as regards inputting noise from the other units. A great little piece of kit.