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AudioShare web browser bye bye

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  • Hahahaaa Apple concerned about copyright infringement?! More like apple wants you to go buy from the music store :p

  • I wonder how Apple will handle 'YouTube RED' once it fully launches as it will allow user to download YouTube content for offline usage...

  • The Laws an Ass. If you buy a DVD its legal to copy the disk for personal use Only. It's illegal to distribute it to others from the disk you purchased. If you stream a movie/ Tv program, it's legal to watch it on your device, but it's illegal to download it(Yify Movies BitTorrent, which is now gone)If you buy music from the Apple Store, it's copyright protected, only be used for your personal use. But, you can burn the music you purchased onto a CD, then rip it from the CD disk. Piracy will always find a way, because it makes the hackers more of a challenge. If the greedy Corporations lowered the prices to very cheap, they can still make there Pound of flesh, because people can afford it. For example, Ableton Live 9 Suite is(I think, about €1100? & you probably have to pay for the upgrade to version 10 when it comes out?)who in the hell can afford that? Those people are going to go to the Dark side of the Internet, & get it from a Torrent site. FL studio 12 can do similar....... It's. A DAW. Does the same thing with in reason. It costs about €130, but yes if you get the full everything, it about €665, but you will get a lifetime of free updates. We on our iPads do get it a lot, lot cheaper, but unfortunately, the iPads are no way as powerful as the PC/ Macs........... Sorry , I'm wondering off again & going off in a tangent.

  • edited November 2015

    @Samu said:
    I wonder how Apple will handle 'YouTube RED' once it fully launches as it will allow user to download YouTube content for offline usage...

    Seriously? The same way Spotify does, put a proprietary extension to the file so it stays chained to their own software for playback.

    While this isn't a new issue, to act like content providers haven't developed new ways/tactics to combat users accessing content "illegally" (in whatever specific context that may entail),quite frankly, is dumb.

    Copywrite laws are far from perfect. There's likely never going to be an ideal solution to assure that artists get compensated for their output. But to instantly start moaning about Apple in this situation seems insane to me. If you were in Apple's position and had the FCC and RIAA 100% invested in how they can catch you slippin', would you not protect yourself from potential liability? Yes, I know there are alternatives currently available, but as I said earlier, not going go be surprised if Apple acts on those eventually.

    Sorry @Samu the last 2 paragraphs aren't directly at you, just me ranting.

  • I'll still be using AudioShare as my main hub for all things audio-related and when download is needed there are other apps for that and since AudioShare also acts as a FileProvider it can easily be accessed from the other apps.

    So in practice it's just an extra step for those rare times I personally download stuff...

  • ^ same here. I probably wouldn't have even noticed the browser was gone. LOL

  • I agree Audioshare will be mine too. I wonder how poor ole Jakob feels(TSTR)? It's one his wonder joys apps, Figure, etc.

  • @CalCutta said:

    Sorry @Samu the last 2 paragraphs aren't directly at you, just me ranting.

    No worries, these kinds of issues can get people boiling, me included :)

  • I used it to transfer MY samples across using the browser and also via iFunbox, restrictions, restrictions, freedom what price freedom. Oh well, there's always iTunes, such joy, such joy.

  • @j_liljedahl said:
    So.. If this feature is important for you, avoid the coming AudioShare bugfix update!

    :(

    Damn. Sorry Jonatan. Sorry us.

    Wonder if some of the other apps mentioned in this thread will soon be on the chopping block.

  • edited November 2015

    How did you manage to get the webview to handle audio files anyway? If it's partially JavaScript could you take that part out but leave the rest of the code in and then share a JS droplet/bookmarklet type thing with us? For most users, it would only require you to enable bookmarking. And, at the point of submission, the AS browser wouldn't be any more capable of music downloads than any other iOS browser.

  • It's because having a music player on an iOS device that can download directly from the Internet puts it in direct competition with iTunes Store, by bypassing it.
    The iPod and the iTunes Store saved their business in the early 2000's. They won't let go of that.

  • I'd think that if copyright concerns were high on Apple's list, Soundflower would have been shut off a long time ago.

  • @knewspeak said:
    I used it to transfer MY samples across using the browser and also via iFunbox, restrictions, restrictions, freedom what price freedom. Oh well, there's always iTunes, such joy, such joy.

    Note that the WiFi Drive is still there, so you can easily transfer files to/from your computer wirelessly.

  • @Processaurus said:
    It's because having a music player on an iOS device that can download directly from the Internet puts it in direct competition with iTunes Store, by bypassing it.
    The iPod and the iTunes Store saved their business in the early 2000's. They won't let go of that.

    This might be it, yes. On the other hand, they told me that streaming from 3rd party sources is fine, but not downloading, unless I have written documentation from the 3rd party that allows it. That's not possible with a generic web browser, of course. (How many websites are there?)

  • edited November 2015

    @syrupcore said:

    @j_liljedahl said:
    So.. If this feature is important for you, avoid the coming AudioShare bugfix update!

    :(

    Damn. Sorry Jonatan. Sorry us.

    Yeah, bummer. Maybe you can hide an EasterEgg in there!?

  • Thankfully downloading downloading files using Safari still works pretty well for most non audio/video file-types :)

    And for those rare-occasions when a filetype is not directly supported by 'Open In...' (i.e. it auto-plays) there are on-line services that can package them to *.zip and allowing download in Safari, a few extra steps yes, but it's doable.

    One can only hope that iOS10 will finally let us 'see' each apps shared files using the standard Document-Picker...

  • @j_liljedahl, thanks, yes, I will use it, good luck with those carbon copy emails.

  • lol Apple. Never fails to disappoint...

  • I read they they recently rejected a WWII tank battle game because it depicted people of a specific race or culture as enemies in the game.

  • @j_liljedahl I know it's not Easter yet, but any chance of an Easter Egg

  • An app I have called Downloads, lets me download just about anything. It's how I downloaded presets for Zt3A, Sunrizer, Nave, and others. The app unzips the files as well for me. On the rare occasion I download music from the app, I can do that as well. When Powermad had their ep and album up for free on their myspace I downloaded it right from the app. Same goes for their new album that came out just last month. Downloaded it right from the app.

    I tried downloading off of BandCamp, but it won't work.

    Wonder how this type of app can exist, but AUdioshare can't have a nifty little web browser in it?

  • @syrupcore said:
    How did you manage to get the webview to handle audio files anyway? If it's partially JavaScript could you take that part out but leave the rest of the code in and then share a JS droplet/bookmarklet type thing with us? For most users, it would only require you to enable bookmarking. And, at the point of submission, the AS browser wouldn't be any more capable of music downloads than any other iOS browser.

    It's no JavaScript. It uses a custom NSURLProtocol proxy that intercepts all connections and detects requests for audio file URLs.

  • Man, that is a real shame. Audioshare was my all-purpose file-managing hub thanks to its ability to handle pretty much any download.

    It's also a shame that it almost felt dirty to use the browser access due to longstanding iOS access chokeholds.

  • This is about lockdown, and most likely a new policy put into effect as they try to remove competition to Apple Music on the platform. The timing of this is simply too obvious.

    I don't buy the copyright angle at all, as they would be aggressively removing capabilities from their desktop computers.

    They did something similar to Pythonista, as they don't allow "Open in" to work with it at all. To get code into it, you have to copy/paste. They also got hit with a similar situation as audioshare once that was going to prevent a much needed update. It was nakedly obvious that Apple didn't want people to easily be able to download and run a python program because it could interfere with app sales, while at the same time featuring the same app on the appstore.

    The gross thing is, that Apple does use the ios platform to protect their own financial interests in shady ways.

    And it isn't just Apple Music, they would equally defend Spotify and others, because they get a cut of every subscription sold through the app store.

    Maybe it has to do with some Quid pro Quo since they are also bringing Apple Music to Android, and the only rational response to such arm twisting is to never subscribe to Apple Music.

  • edited November 2015

    While i agree that it stinks i also have to say that i never used the browser yet.I´ll give it a try later and then i decide to update or not.I may be one of the few that it even likes to have a more"streamlined"Audioshare,without functions that i personally never use.Audioshare has become a little unstable on iOS 9 for me,it crashed a couple of times without doing much.I m gonna backup the IPA and check the update.If it brings the stability back...i wont be sad about the loss of the browser.

  • Do Microsoft or Google have a similar policy for apps ? Surely they would be under the same external pressure as Apple to deal with potential copyright issues.
    Do Apple have the same policy for OSX applications ?

    If the answer to both of these questions is no (which I suspect is true) then why on iOS ? What is my ipad capable of that laptops and PC's aren't ?

  • edited November 2015

    More likely a rookie reviewer is over-reacting to the name AudioSHARE and assumes its raison d'être is to enable copyright infringement. Doh!

  • @AndyPlankton said:
    Do Microsoft or Google have a similar policy for apps ? Surely they would be under the same external pressure as Apple to deal with potential copyright issues.
    Do Apple have the same policy for OSX applications ?

    If the answer to both of these questions is no (which I suspect is true) then why on iOS ? What is my ipad capable of that laptops and PC's aren't ?

    Control, they have it, we don't.

  • @Washboy said:
    More likely a rookie reviewer is over-reacting to the name AudioSHARE and assumes its raison d'être is to enable copyright infringement. Doh!

    I don't think so. I submitted an appeal to the App Review board, and they "determined that the original rejection feedback for the current version of your app is valid. Your app does not comply with:
    8.6: Apps that include the ability to download music or video content from third party sources (e.g. YouTube, SoundCloud, Vimeo, etc) without explicit authorization from those sources will be rejected"

    So, I guess I could create specialized browsers for soundcloud, freesound, etc and get written documentation from them that they allow me to download the downloadable content from their servers. That's a lot of work though, which I don't have time for at the moment.

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