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It could potentially simply come down to security as always.
@j_liljedahl, would they allow you to stream audio via the browser without downloading it, to the Audiobus chain?
Then again, the work-around is very simple but requires a few extra steps when using iOS Safari...
I guess it's just a matter of time before some of the other file-managers get the same treatment as AudioShare when it comes to built-in browser for downloading files...
Streaming is fine, but there's no way to capture the streaming output of a web browser. And if I found a way, I'm sure they wouldn't allow it.
This is very cool, I didn't know this.
SO IRONIC CONSIDERING THAT ITUNES FILE SHARING IS A MOTIVATION ABORTION AND TIME RAPER.
One really begins to wonder why?
Who gains from these policies?
Stunning, a company that reports to be on the cutting edge of tech can't determine if an app is downloading copyrighted material?
If inter-app audio and file usage / sharing becomes so cumbersome and difficult market forces would present a competitor with an opportunity.
These uptight yuppy nerds who make policy have no connection with reality in regard to music or that of the soul.
Perhaps if this had to do with Star Trek or "smart" technology to brew coffee via an app on my phone things would be more easily approved.
Fuck apple.
Thanks for sharing @Samu, a nice workaround.
It sucks for Jonatan, it sucks for regular users of the feature like Jakob, but Goodreader (as someone mentioned earlier) has always had the ability to download and extract zip files, with the ability to "open in." For that matter, so does iOS Safari. I've had Goodreader so long I can't even remember if it's free or $4.99 or what, but this is hardly the end of the world.
The hand that feeds us might be a big ol' hairy corporate hand these days, but it's also the hand that feeds us this ridiculously cheap and innovative touchscreen music platform, one which brings me joy daily. I can relate to some disappointment, can't relate to the hate.
I've now submitted the update, without the browser. It got rejected again, this time because I had put this line in the What's New section of the update description:
"The built-in web browser had to be removed, because it violated the guidelines of what's allowed”
So apparently I'm not even allowed to tell my users that I removed functionality from my app? This is amazing! Almost amusing. Except the very uncomfortable feeling of always having to get my work approved by some stranger that I don't even know the name of, who can give thumbs up or down.
I do sometimes wonder why 'serious apps' get such a hard time getting approved while too many 'crap apps' get approved almost instantly.
The next app I'm eagerly waiting for is inFuse 4 for my Apple TV...
@jlilla so Apple policy says you're not allowed to tell customers the changes in the new version? I would think they would want a clear disclosure on app descriptions so customers would not be disappointed. Maybe you could contact them (somehow) about what words WOULD be acceptable for an update description. I think Audioshare has been such a major app in this category for so long because you have explained and presented everything so clearly over the years.
The tongue in cheek detector must have been on. Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if the filters were manned by robots.
At least you can vent it here. Most of your hardcore customers are here anyway.
Sooner or later Apple has to 'wake up'. There is a reason why there are so many file-managers available for iOS devices, it increases productivity something that is even promoted with the iPad Pro...
iCloud Drive is neat, so what stops Apple from allowing us users to 'download links' directly to iCloud Drive?
If Apple is 'paranoid' about hosting copyrighted material on iCloud Drive they could implement a 'scanner' (similar to anti-virus scans) but for audio/video-file fingerprints...
Don't know how content-blockers work but I guess they could in theory be made to stop 'auto play' of media links and thus 'Open In...' would appear...
Once this update of AudioShare hits the AppStore i can already see a bunch of negative PR for Apple...
Now this is the hyperbole of hilarity - in a 'Brazil' fashion - only now we need a plumber.
That was my thought as well.Probably the word "violated" triggered an alarm
This is corporate fascism in action. There is zero attempt on the part of Apple to accommodate users who want to legally download music onto their iOS devices.
I'm thinking that the removal of the web-browser in AudioShare will be hi-lighted on all major iOS Audio/Music related sites and create quite a stir hopefully making Apple reconsider their actions.
We are thankfully not sh*t out of luck as long as we still have other apps available that are capable of downloading files...
I contacted Apple via their web chat and asked them why Apple put the onus on app developers to secure content download permission from websites rather than providing a way for websites to register these permissions with Apple so that any developer can then incorporate these sites into their apps.
I followed the Apple employee's suggestion and submitted the idea to the Apple Feedback site. The employee said they'd do the same.
Expecting thousands of app developers to secure permissions from thousands of websites seems ridiculous. If such a process is setup, then websites which want to share can and developers can focus on making apps. It seems to be an opportunity for Apple to provide content infrastructure rather than implementing mindless rules to cover themselves and to facilitate the legal activities of their users who ultimately pay them. The ball is in Apple's court, do they want to be obstructionists or constructionists?
PS the web browser less AudioShare update has arrived.
Wow apple is definitely big brother. I've never seen such a restrictive platform. from this case right now to the fact that I can't store my audiofiles where I want on the device, broken apps all the time when updating the system. if it weren't for all the wonderful apps amd money I've invested, I would totally ditch Apple forever. This isn't the wonderful user experience they so much portray.
Kudos to J_liljedahl for making theses apps that make our life better but I'm totally underwhelmed right now with Apple BS.
Great approach @Paul.
Awesome, latest update shows number of beats between trim markers. Bravo @j_liljedahl
I was wondering about something similar. Instead of creating specialized browsers for SoundCloud, Freesound, etc. and securing written permission from each site maybe their TOS policy pages have specific language around downloading? And perhaps that would be enough to submit to Apple (along with a 'audiodownloadsafe' whitelist in your custom web controller)?
Not as easy as it was, for sure, but I bet the forum would help find the sites with applicable TOSes! If possible, it might actually turn out to be a net positive because the funny thing is, I'm guessing anyway, that if there were a nice list of 'good sample download sites' inside of Audioshare the browser would get used a lot more often.
They specifically mention Soundcloud as an example in their guideline, so I guess their TOS is not enough for Apple.
However, even if I got some written permissions, limiting a browser to specific sites is probably non-trivial, as sites like SoundCloud hosts downloadable files on other web domains. There would need to be several white-list entries for each site/service.
Horse. Shit.
I recently brought my suddenly-dead-still-under-apple-care 15" rMBP into the apple store. Sent it off for repair and when it came back they said it had water damage. Because of the water damage, it's not covered under Apple Care. I know no water was spilled on it. Ever. So I ask the guy how much it will be to just get it fixed instead of fighting it. "$1,235 and we'll have it back to you in 5-7 days." He said it with a straight face. I do not have $1235! I asked him if I could see evidence of the water damage and he said no. "Wait, you're telling me to give you 1200 bucks based on something some person I've never met said? And I can't see the proof?" He said, "yes". Again with the straight face. "So my options are believe what some random person said about my computer, which I disagree with, and give you $1235 dollars or... what? What are my other options? Can I appeal this or something?" Then, with the straightest of straight faces he said "No, there's no way to appeal it but you can provide feedback at apple.com/feedback". My Irish gets up at this point, "Man, look at me in the face for a second. Are you seriously telling me my options are to spend $1235 based on the word of some guy I've never met at an Apple repair depot who will not show me the evidence of what he found, evidence that negates my Apple Care warranty OR go to the fucking feedback form on the website of the world's largest consumer electronic brand to tell them how I feel?" Without blinking, he says "Yes". Then, he seemed to process my plea (or my ire, not sure) and decided to get the manager. Manager offered me "a discount". I'm still pursuing appeal (or evidence) but nothing meaningful yet. I will probably just have to swallow it because they're Apple and I'm not.
Sorry, that was a long and venting version of Ouch. I acutely feel your pain on this one.
Yes, this is huge for someone who cannot process math in his head (me).
Nice update though! despite the forced removal due to Apple trenchcoats...
I feel the frustration for both developer and users, damn this corporate world etc
@j_liljedahl - sorry to hear you have to go through all this crap with the big A. As a big Audioshare fan though I really appreciate your work - one of the top apps on the iPad.
@syrupcore, sorry to hear about your troubles, with Apple, hope you get it sorted, keep that Irish in check, but still give them bloody hell.
That's just wrong @syrupcore. Hope you find some acceptable solution, but yeah...what leverage do you have in that sort of situation??