Is Auria Pro working the way you want it to (now)

mkell424

For all of you who purchased Auria Pro. I was going to upgrade to Auria Pro but then I saw some of the negative posts. Overall is Auria working well enough to use? Is it fun or frustrating?

The reason why I ask is that I've got my eye on some other musical stuff right now and was wondering if I should wait to purchase Auria Pro. Thanks!

juanconcho

The original was worth every penny.  Now, for the same price it does way more.  No-brainier unless you need apps that do something else.

null____void

I never used Effectrix with old Auria, but just did on a piano midi track, and it worked flawlessly, I was very impressed. Problem is there's some sort of invisible barrier which prevents me from surpassing more than a rough sketch of a song in an ipad DAW. Need to break through that somehow & Auria is the break-through-enabler-possibly.

Keebo

Hey guys and gals. I have been off the grid for a spell due to personal reasons but wanted to try to help out any iPad 3 on iOS 7 users who may be pondering the Auria Pro upgrade.  The Hey guys and gals. I have been off the grid for a spell due to personal reasons but wanted to try to help out any iPad 3 on iOS 7 users who may be pondering the Auria Pro upgrade.  The minimum specs refer to an iPad 4 though I have been using Auria for audio for quite some time without too much ado within limits. 

First a big thanks to Rim for what seems to be a great upgrade. Much appreciated for all of the hard work that went into coding this monster.  The inclusion of MIDI (other than the Mackie controls) is what I was really looking forward to. I have been using Cubasis for my MIDI work with decent results besides the fiddly piano roll view. 

I was hoping Auria Pro would alleviate my PRV issues along with the new Auria synths but I am less than excited about how it works with what I have. The iOS requirement of 512 buffer size for MIDI tracks makes it hard to accomplish the bare minimum of note entry via MIDI controller. Forget about importing any MIDI files without immediate crashes using the Lyra soft synth much less the Fab Filter synths. 

The PRV seems to be less finicky than Cubasis but is still too slow for fluid use. I knew ahead of time that I would experience problems because of the specs of my red headed step child Apple device but hoped that I would be able to use Auria Pro for my MIDI meanderings instead of Cubasis. But in reality that is not the case. I will still have to use Cubasis until a new iPad Air 3 or whatever it's name will be becomes available. 

I have no regrets in upgrading due to the fact that I like to support iOS dev's and that I will eventually buy a newer device.  I still have yet to use Pattering and Korg's iM1 due to my current iOS but am looking forward to using them and Auria Pro when Apple comes up with a better orange. 

minimum specs refer to an iPad 4 though I have been using Auria for audio for quite some time without too much ado within limits. 

First a big thanks to Rim for what seems to be a great upgrade. Much appreciated for all of the hard work that went into coding this monster.  The inclusion of MIDI (other than the Mackie controls) is what I was really looking forward to. I have been using Cubasis for my MIDI work with decent results besides the fiddly piano roll view. 

I was hoping Auria Pro would alleviate my PRV issues along with the new Auria synths but I am less than excited about how it works with what I have. The iOS requirement of 512 buffer size for MIDI tracks makes it hard to accomplish the bare minimum of note entry via MIDI controller. Forget about importing any MIDI files without immediate crashes using the Lyra soft synth much less the Fab Filter synths. 

The PRV seems to be less finicky than Cubasis but is still too slow for fluid use. I knew ahead of time that I would experience problems because of the specs of my red headed step child Apple device but hoped that I would be able to use Auria Pro for my MIDI meanderings instead of Cubasis. But in reality that is not the case. I will still have to use Cubasis until a new iPad Air 3 or whatever it's name will be becomes available. 

I have no regrets in upgrading due to the fact that I like to support iOS dev's and that I will eventually buy a newer device.  I still have yet to use my purchased Pattering and Korg's iM1 due to my current iOS but am looking forward to using them and Auria Pro when Apple comes up with a better orange. 

funjunkie27

I've been happy with the performance n an iPad4 and mini retina.  Sure, you can push it beyond the capabilities of either of these, but with care, there's a lot that can be done.  I have several Fab Filter plugs and can use most presets through each of them, including Saturn, Volcano, and Timeless.

Halftone

Thanks guys - funjunkie - can you tell me: can you run a midi track triggering Lyra, another couple of midi tracks running a Twin and Twin2, a few audio tracks and maybe a few audio tracks running at once? I'm on iPad 4 too and thinking if I can get the above setup running then I'll probably get. I'm worried about performance for my workflow...

funjunkie27

I would have to test it.  I've run 7-8 midi tracks running a mix of Lyra and Twin, but I haven't thrown any audio tracks into the mix. Still, with that setup the CPU utilization was pretty good.  I think a couple of audio tracks would have been possible.  If not, it should be easy enough to freeze tracks for the headroom.

MichaelLawrence

@rhcball said:
I never used Effectrix with old Auria, but just did on a piano midi track, and it worked flawlessly, I was very impressed. Problem is there's some sort of invisible barrier which prevents me from surpassing more than a rough sketch of a song in an ipad DAW. Need to break through that somehow & Auria is the break-through-enabler-possibly.

So true. Took me like a year to put together a track in an iPad daw lol. So many rough samples and loops.

Gadget was the only thing I could complete stuff in but I feel like Auria Pro is super stable. Haven't had any crashes yet. I can delete some of my synths I don't use and try to do most of the work on Auria. MIDI and the new synths are a godsend

rickwaugh

I am using an Air 2. Created a song in Notion, 10 tracks, exported as midi, imported into Auria. Two guitars, bass, synth, percussion. Running Lyra, and Synth 2. Various Fabfilter plugins on half the tracks. Got a couple of crashes during an unfreeze that I sent to Rim, but it's running fine with reasonable memory usage. I got a couple of warnings about memory, then killed everything else and rebooted, which is pretty good practice in general to follow when recording on iOS, before starting.

I'll be redoing the guitar tracks as audio over the next little while. I was able to do this during the beta - I had some crashes, due to a bug that Rim tracked down at the last minute. After he fixed that, I was able to create the audio track, with about 20 overdubs, (just junk, just to do it.)

Going to be more bugs over the next little while. But I it's pretty darn fine. Purchased the synth presets - there are so many of them, it's crazy. This is really what I have been waiting for, and the workflow I wanted to follow - write the piece, import the midi, then figure out what I wanted to redo with an instrument. I'm pretty happy, and it's going to get better.

JohnnyGoodyear

@rickwaugh said:

I am using an Air 2. Created a song in Notion, 10 tracks, exported as midi, imported into Auria. Two guitars, bass, synth, percussion. Running Lyra, and Synth 2. Various Fabfilter plugins on half the tracks. Got a couple of crashes during an unfreeze that I sent to Rim, but it's running fine with reasonable memory usage. I got a couple of warnings about memory, then killed everything else and rebooted, which is pretty good practice in general to follow when recording on iOS, before starting.

I'll be redoing the guitar tracks as audio over the next little while. I was able to do this during the beta - I had some crashes, due to a bug that Rim tracked down at the last minute. After he fixed that, I was able to create the audio track, with about 20 overdubs, (just junk, just to do it.)

Going to be more bugs over the next little while. But I it's pretty darn fine. Purchased the synth presets - there are so many of them, it's crazy. This is really what I have been waiting for, and the workflow I wanted to follow - write the piece, import the midi, then figure out what I wanted to redo with an instrument. I'm pretty happy, and it's going to get better.

Look forward to hearing the end result....

rickwaugh

I didn't say it was going to be any good, Johnny..... 

WaveMachineLabs

We recommend using Auria Pro on an iPad 4 or higher only.  Using an app as powerful as Auria Pro on an iPad 3 is going to be a unpleasant experience, as Keebo has mentioned.   In my opinion, the experience is good on an iPad 4, and fantastic on an Air 1 or 2.

Rim

AudioGus

I am loving Auria Pro on the iPad Air1.  Previously I used Samplitude and Reaper on PC and then Cubasis on iOS (bye bye Cubasis).  

The audio warping is fantastic for tightening up TC-11 jamming and shifting around Borderlands.  Effectrix works beautifully in it so now I can finally use it with Patterning which is awesome.  Looking forward to exporting to Samplitude and back via AAF files as well as learning a good workflow for Turnado, which I have not spent too much time with yet.

Keebo

Rim, I only upgraded because I like to support the dev's that support our cause. You have definitely proved yourself worthy. I will not post a negative review as my device is less than described as a minimum.  I was only trying to explain what to expect with an under rated device. 

I am am happy to say that my $39.99 was well spent even for an iPad 3 user. The amount of work (yes, I have written a few lines of code myself) in this upgrade is a no brainer. 

Good luck with future endeavors as I will be a part of it as it unfolds.  

Keebo

Just looked back on my previous posts and realized that it all sux. Not at all what I posted. Must be a hair in the biscuit. Apologizes for any rant. 

Wow, there is almost no editing on posts here so I will exit yet again without hopefully offending any Apple device users. 

JohnnyGoodyear

So, forgive my ignorance (as ever), but Pro upgraded fine, but, yes, had the Twin 2 etc isn't showing up problem. Followed the suggestions, synced/backed-up, and then deleted Auria, re-installed from the store and, yea, Twin etc are there, but, of course, none of my data is. 

If I now go back to itunes and restore will I overwrite this new update (or in fact overwrite my back up, yikes...)? Just don't want to make a complete cluster on this one

oat_phipps

I bought LE a while ago for the upgrade discount and shelved it in favor of Cubasis due to the ugly graphics and lagginess.

After purchasing Pro, I deleted 6 gigs of Cubasis noodling and decided to start fresh. Jesus, the Fabfilter integration is incredible and I'm kinda in love with the Twin Synth. I'm not a presets guy in favor of designing, but the vintage poly set is really, really good.

That is not to mention how much smoother and efficient the audio recording of the program itself is (I'm recording a song from Patterning as I type), and the MIDI has worked seamlessly so far.

Thomas

@AudioGus said:

I am loving Auria Pro on the iPad Air1.  Previously I used Samplitude and Reaper on PC and then Cubasis on iOS (bye bye Cubasis).  

The audio warping is fantastic for tightening up TC-11 jamming and shifting around Borderlands.  Effectrix works beautifully in it so now I can finally use it with Patterning which is awesome.  Looking forward to exporting to Samplitude and back via AAF files as well as learning a good workflow for Turnado, which I have not spent too much time with yet.

Keebo

Oh you newer device and newer IOS users rejoice. One day...

theconnactic

The bad: in the first hour, I had really a lot of crashes. It would crash when opening Twin, when freezing a MIDI track, when unfreezing a MIDI track (erasing all data in the process and driving me nuts). I sent a lot of crash reports in this first hour of usage. Miraculously, it crashes no more, and I already recorded a few tracks on it, both for others and for myself. Worth noting I didn't try to freeze or unfreeze tracks anymore - and I realised I don't really need to, since it also seems to be far more resource-efficient than Auria 1.x, at least on my iPad Air - and I also haven't tried to write automation for a MIDI track again. I'm sure the bugs will all be solved with a few updates.

The good The Fantastic: it's like having Logic Pro X on the iPad, folks. The competition apps are toys compared to it (they also were when compared to Auria 1.x, but at least some of them had the MIDI sequencing capabilities Auria 1.x lacked, as we know). The comparison with Logic is not an exaggeration, if you keep the proportions as it should be: it's an iPad after all! Like Apple did with Logic, Rim gave us Auria Pro users 4GB of free Lyra sampler libraries, and the piano libraries are larger and sound better to my ears than what the iOS competition is offering even inside specialised piano apps! And it comes with FF Twin, one of my fav soft synths and surely one of the best available (it's as powerful as NI synths, and better than every iOS offering but Propellerhead's Thor IMHO). The MIDI and audio controls are desktop grade, as well as the plug-ins. I was already using Auria to record bands, now I can and have been using it to offer complete arrangements for singer/songwriters, and also to make my own music when I am far from my Mac or simply wanting to work comfortably sit on the couch.

Last but not least: all my Auria 1.x projects opened and ran without a single glitch. But I had no incomplete projects when I upgrade, and I recommend completing any important project before doing that.

All in all a great experience, and I strongly recommend anyone who have at least an iPad Air to upgrade.

All the best!

rickwaugh

@theconnactic, I bought the presets for the synths. There are buckets of them. Very good.

theconnactic

I already bought the Synth Classics presets! They are very good, as the stock ones.

richardyot

@JohnnyGoodyear try doing a restore from iTunes and if you are back to square one then you should try saving your projects to Dropbox and then repeat the delete/reinstall procedure.

Alternatively there is another way to fix the missing Twin2 bug, which is to purchase one of the synth preset packs from the Auria Store - it will cost $2.99 but it avoids the whole having to delete/reinstall dance.

richardyot

I recorded and mixed my November SOTMC entirely in Auria Pro during the beta, and I managed to complete a fairly complex song with lots of parts, including audio and MIDI.

I think like most new releases it will initially be a little rough around the edges, but Rim is a very responsive developer and bugs get fixed very quickly. There's already an update in review, and testing is still ongoing. I'm certainly happy with Auria Pro having used it daily for the last few weeks.

DeVlaeminck

Can anyone provide info on IAP's in AP.
Nothing in Appstore or website.

richardyot

@DeVlaeminck said:

Can anyone provide info on IAP's in AP.
Nothing in Appstore or website.

There are lots!

PLUGINS:

Drumagog 5
Classic Verb Pro

FabFilter Micro
FabFilter Pro-C2
FabFilter Pro-DS
FabFilter Pro-G
FabFilter Pro-L
FabFilter Pro-MB
FabFilter Pro-Q2
FabFilter Saturn
FabFilter Timeless 2
FabFilter Volcano 2

FXpansion BusComp
FXpansion ChanComp
FXpansion EnvShaper

Overloud THM
PG Jamup

PSP Echo
PSP MicroWarmer
PSP oldTimer
PSP PianoVerb2
PSP Springverb

SugarBytes Turnado
SugarBytes WOW2

Mu ReTune



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DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT:

MoreVox IR packages

MoreVox GOG packages

MoreVox Drum Loops

Fabfilter One Presets

Fabfilter Twin Presets (6 packs).

pichi

So far so good. I've only just got back to a project after upgrading to Pro but everything is in place. I'd like to see the track numbers back though, and a lighter background color — muted tracks are difficult to see on the dark background.

 I made a quick new project to test new synths and sampler and downloaded the drums. All is well! 

stormywaterz

i was anticipating the midi/piano roll in the upgrade but I feel like a let down happened. Not a big fan of the midi functions. Can't even do 1/16 notes without having to super zoom in and hold the edge and then wait for a second to slide it down unless there is something I'm not seeing. Really messes with speed of process and corrections. Also the extra steps it takes to get to the instrument keys is slow to. Not really a fast process. I'll be looking forward to some great tutorials that come out. I'm sure there is a lot to be uncovered. 

DeVlaeminck

@richardyot said:

@DeVlaeminck said:

Can anyone provide info on IAP's in AP.
Nothing in Appstore or website.

There are lots!

PLUGINS:

Drumagog 5
Classic Verb Pro

FabFilter Micro
FabFilter Pro-C2
FabFilter Pro-DS
FabFilter Pro-G
FabFilter Pro-L
FabFilter Pro-MB
FabFilter Pro-Q2
FabFilter Saturn
FabFilter Timeless 2
FabFilter Volcano 2

FXpansion BusComp
FXpansion ChanComp
FXpansion EnvShaper

Overloud THM
PG Jamup

PSP Echo
PSP MicroWarmer
PSP oldTimer
PSP PianoVerb2
PSP Springverb

SugarBytes Turnado
SugarBytes WOW2

Mu ReTune



-----

DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT:

MoreVox IR packages

MoreVox GOG packages

MoreVox Drum Loops

Fabfilter One Presets

Fabfilter Twin Presets (6 packs).

Thanks a lot. How about prices ? Please ...

richardyot

@stormywaterz you can easily enter 16th notes, or 32nd notes: use the musical notation symbols at the top of the editor. 

There's two modes, like in Gadget, draw and edit. Draw mode is pretty fast for entering notes. I would say that the piano roll editing is reasonably close to Gadget in terms of ease-of-use. 

AudioGus

Wow...  I cant believe how much I can throw at Aauria Pro in terms of tracks and fx on my air1.  the sync with Egoist, Patterning and Effectrix is fantastic.  Also it is so easy to setup and send midi to Egoist and Effectrix for changing patterns.