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Oh ok. I could use that for my grot box anyway. Been on the fence about one of these but assuming i could use the charger from the icm2+ i may get one; asio4all has never worked well for me so i don't really use the APT and i'd really like an elegant solution for integrating the iPad with my DAW.
Hey, I'm working with iConnectivity and I stumbled onto this.
Man, tough crowd here!
First, iOS public beta 9.3 fixes the clocking issues. No public announcement yet, because for obvious reasons we're not comfortable recommending that everyone install beta OS software. But it's working.
Now, about those rotten fruits some of you are throwing at the iConnectAUDIO2+... HEY! This is the best $200 interface I've ever seen, and I've been using audio interfaces for a long time.
The concept is for it to sound really good and be built solidly enough for professionals, who might use it for a spare, maybe for live acoustic recording... you get the idea. But it's priced low enough to be someone's first interface. It's really versatile - two computers simultaneously, great audio and MIDI routing, mic/line/instrument ins, phantom power, you know all that. And the six independent outs are for any application - DJ, fx sends, even a parallel safety back-up recording if Mick Jagger pops in and you're worried about losing a take.
"Only" one iPad? You guys are brutal! What else supports two computer devices at the same time? And how many people out there use more than one iPad? Some of us, yes, but then we'll spend a poxy $100 more for the iConnectAUDIO4+.
I'm being a little silly here, but seriously - this is a killer product. Hopefully the word will get out, because it deserves to.
By the way, I mostly do writing for the company - I'm not in sales, and I wouldn't write this stuff if I didn't believe it.
I'm looking forward to the 9.3 update. I'm not going to mess with the beta, though. And I hope they don't break new things with it... You never know with Apple these days. But I'm trying to be hopeful. I hope they'll fix the crackling and popping issues with the Apogee one too, while they're at it.
And about the audio2+: it's great for people who don't want to charge the iDevice while recording, don't need more than 2 ins and don't want to connect 2 iDevices. For everyone else the 4+ is the better choice.
i hoping too thats the update to 9.3 will come soon and will fix the sound bugs around.
I have a iCA4+ and cant use it since months!
shame on YOU apple!
Know Thy Customer.
Obviously, more than they assume... Just seems like it's not too hard to add support.
welcome, nick. glad to have some representation from iC on the forum.
though others could answer to this, I figured why not ask someone closer to the source: what is the difference between the pass through audio of iCM4+ and the routing of iCA4+?
I'd ideally like to run two different setups and think iC is the best company to go with:
1) live sampling acoustic instruments through a few mics into Samplr on my iPad and then route back through a mixer
2) run midi from Ableton into external synth gear, capture that audio into Samplr on my iPad and then route both the synth and Samplr audio through a mixer.
maybe iCA2 is all I need? thanks in advance!
@dderks If you want to do any work with live instruments, either an iCA4+ or the upcoming iCA2+ is the unit to go for if you do not already have another audio interface alongside which you would integrate an iCM2+ or 4+
There is no essential difference in the audio pass thru' routing between the iCA units and the iCM units with the exception that the iCA units also include the audio mixer that allows you to mx the levels and of course include analog audio as well. There is more flexibility therefore in the iCA units.
I use an iCM4+ and an iCM2+ along with other audio interfaces to route audio to/from iPads via a Mac. If I did not have those other audio interfaces, I would use the iCA4+ to do so (which I do in another rig setup
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dderks, Musicinclusive answered your question, but let me give some more details.
The internal audio routing between computers/iPads - Audio passThru - on the iConnectMIDI interfaces is "hardwired" to the first several ins and outs. In other words, they're seen as audio interfaces by the operating systems, and inputs 1, 2, 3... and outputs 1,2,3... are fixed.
On the iConnectAUDIO interfaces - the ones that have analog I/O - there's an audio patchbay (in the included iConfig software), where you can route analog and internal computer audio streams every which way. So, for example, if you wanted to send outs 3&4 from Ableton Live to ins 5&6 on Pro Tools running on the same computer (or another one), you can. You can also set up independent mixes for each of the six outputs (4 line + 2 headphone).
So the onboard routing on the audio interfaces is a little more sophisticated, since they incorporate external analog ins and outs. Everything can go everywhere, and there's also an onboard mixer you can use to combine outputs to a destination. Of course, you can also do a lot of that for one computer inside a DAW.
But Musicinclusive said 95% of that in a third the words.
"Know Thy Customer.
Obviously, more than they assume... Just seems like it's not too hard to add support."
You guys need to sit in on some product planning meetings to understand how this really works at companies. Trust me, the opening sentence is always who Thy Customer is!
So let me repeat what I wrote above: "And how many people out there use more than one iPad? Some of us, yes, but then we'll spend a poxy $100 more for the iConnectAUDIO4+." Or iConnectMIDI4+.
Munibeast: "And about the audio2+: it's great for people who don't want to charge the iDevice while recording"
It'll charge the iPad if you use the power adapter (available separately). Otherwise the unit is bus-powered from a computer over the USB bus.
Yes but that's the point: if you add the cost of the psu the price gets very close to the 4+ which has so much more to offer. So I think if the psu was already included like with the 4+ it would be a much more attractive deal than it is now.
Edit: is this the same adapter?
http://www.thomann.de/gb/iconnectivity_optional_power_transformer.htm
Or is this one only for icm2? And would this one work as a spare for the ica4+ as well? 30€ wouldn't be that big a deal (thought it might be more) but it would make the 2+ only €68 cheaper than its big brother, which has all the bells and whistles at the same size.
There's also the missing USB host port, for connecting USB midi devices like keys, which is not present on the 2+'s.
And about my question if the adapter linked above would be a replacement for the ica 4+: that one is 6V while the ica 4+ needs 12V. So still wondering what voltage the ica 2+ takes and how much the adapter will cost.
Munibeast, I don't know if it's the same adapter. Will find out.
But you know, sometimes not everyone is a customer of every product. Obviously the iConnectAUDIO4+ is a higher-up model, and it's priced accordingly.
The idea with this one is "how much can we put into a beginner-priced interface and still make a product that professionals will use." To me it's very successful in that way, but what can I say; we musicians aren't all the same person!
Well, I put that wrong. The main idea is for this to be a really flexible, high-spec and -featured interface that you can use anywhere - stage, studio, club.
I wonder why the USB routing options are different from the iCA4+? I'm looking for an inexpensive & small interface which will 1) power the iPad while in use and 2) allow USB midi devices to be connected and powered from USB (MIDI keyboard, maybe LaunchPad) - trying to minimise the wires & power cords! As the iCA2+ has lost the USB host port, it looks like the iCA4+ is still the only option?!