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Like that image Wally. Useful.
Ive had some teething problems with this but Im really happy with it now. Two little things which had me scratching my head.
1) some of the 'midi in' notes are reserved for control and changing patterms. Its called Zone Control and can be turned off in settings. I thought Midi In had stopped working but then noticed my patterns were changing mysteriously
2) if you still have no joy getting Midi In to control the changes then select Cream Virtual Device from the list of Input sources. I found that this usually works.
@SirKen As I recall, Consequence only has a single midi out for all channels, so I never found it terribly useful.
@Richtowns I'm glad the diagram is useful .
I posted tips in the first Cream thread that might have helped your headscratching ,
although I confess I am so used to using Pattern Change C1-B2 that I forgot it was option in Settings , so just gave advice assuming it was always on.
I have amended the composite posts accordingly ; I have added those Tips to the comments of the "Decode the Matrix " video above , as I am trying not to monopolise this thread .
P.S Cream Virtual ports I/O/Sync FTW
If SugarBytes port Obscurium to iOS, that should remove a few follicles, so you'll need some Kirnu Cream to hold them in place.
From the Sugar Bytes website
"The free Consequence 1.1 update brings a lot of new sonic power to its users. It includes lots of new Club-Style Presets and Instruments as well as some incredible new features. Just to name a few of them: Each of the 3 Instruments has a Note-Range feature and can send its Gate and Pitch information to an individual Midi Channel..."
Ah. Got it. thx
I haven't checked closely, but are the drum loops removable? I've loved Kirnu Cream since the update but don't need the sounds, only want it for MIDI.
@Calcutta - would you mind sharing what you love about it - briefly?
I have StepPolyArp and use it for Arps and rhythmic phrases. Works nicely. What does Cream get me on top? Is it a load more complicated to get my head around?
1) 4-tracks in real time with the IAP. If you use a lot of hardware (I know you don't but for others), this is very handy.
2) The editing features are more in-depth and I prefer their mode of screen-diving as opposed to StepPolyArp. In StepPolyArp, you have to get a pop-up to get to the good stuff (stutters, etc.). I like that the full grid options for note entry in Kirnu Cream, are the same layout for things like transpose/length/etc. Kinda hard to explain, but I prefer the workflow.
3) The layout doesn't feel as cluttered as it may seem at first. I got used to it faster than expected.
4) Much better chord triggering options, imo. ChordPolyPad is still better on its own, but Cream adds much better chord options to the arpeggiator side.
5) This is petty, but I got it at the same time as Modstep, and frankly, Modstep has talked a lot about stability and I've yet to see anything but instability. Once Cream got past their initial issue of the wrong Binary being loaded, the first update has felt far more stable. I think that has helped Cream's image and optics to me a lot, while simultaneously hindering Modstep's...
One thing I really can't stand about Cream though, and this is minor but should be mentioned: the keyboard is slightly too small and it's way too easy to accidentally hit "Chord Memory" or "Pattern Sequencer" (esp. the latter). This happens to me pretty much every time I use the on-screen keyboard.
Thanks @CalCutta - extremely useful as always.
I think I'll be good and resist for now
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Fucking love this!
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 hope you dont mind me also sharing my comparison , I was typing this before @CalCutta posted but glad to see his positive review
I would add that Cream offers:
DISCRETE sequencing Lanes , so every lane can have an independent length & various play directions so an 8 step note phrase can be modified by a 5 step Transpose Lane by a 6 step STEP lane , whilst 8 CC Lanes all running different graphs , if you want to go complex.
Pattern Sequencer
X 4 Tracks .
The only feature SPA offers that Cream currently doesnt is the Probability Mode ,
although as the Dev has promised ongoing development that could be added with Feature Requests.
I wrote to SPA dev four years ago requesting more tracks & he said it wouldnt happen .
That is the background to my commitment & bias to Cream . I believe this app deserves support for the features it brings to IOS.
@RustiK Glad it's useful to you ..now go use !
Thanks. Might get it one day. Just given I already have SPA and I wonder how much multitrack arping I'm going to do, I'll probably wait for now.
Nicely done. I like SPA plenty and it'll stay just where it is on my main pages, but Cream has earned ita spot there too, despite the fact that I know I'm not making the most of it yet. Just has a lot more get up and go when you want it....
Asked dev of SPA about the tracks:
@johnfromberkeley , @RustiK , @Richtowns ,
arghh... the diagram just went twitter when I have made a revision ..
STOP PRESS: REVISION . I realised my overlay was missing the fact that Lanes are discrete , so Lane Length & Step On/Off should be included in a Lane bracket . The revised diagram is available here https://www.dropbox.com/.../AAAsxqA2C-09w192izq9wvjla... . Also ,my logic circuits are overloading if Pattern Select could/should ? be bracketed as Track ? Glad it's useful anyway . P.S this is unofficial publishing from beta testing user.
new diagram attached
EDIT: revised video posted
I caved in and bought it
Good we need a boffin to do the hard yards on this one...
I bought it too and got to say, loving it so far. Needs Link though. I think I'm going to be saying that about everything for a while. Everything just goes with DJ when it gets Link
Plus a whole bunch.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 , Whilst not normally a man for smileys,
for this occasion , & prepare to use another if you report back glad to be using it .
...I hereby
There are assembled Tips on the YouTube video page above , & I'm following this thread if you have initial questions .
P.S Notice the top centre Data display window displays the parameter & value of whatever you are editing , if your finger obscures the actual parameter whilst editing .
I think it has lots of potential from the limited time I've had with it. I've shelved it for now until I've got more time. There also must be some tutorials out there for the desktop version which will be relevant to the iPad version no?
@Carnbot yes there are quite a few bite size from Kirnu , & a longer Computer Music I attach when it was a magazine feature .
I especially like using shift to nudge rhythms just a little off kilter. The only other app I have that can do this in a friendly way is DrumPerfect.
Where's @Kaikoo? I miss him.
Ditto. I fancy the Captain is off on a rural noodle tour, but will one day come wandering back to us...
I wonder why the desktop version has such a decent looking interface while the iPad version looks chaotic and retro to me. It's currently the main reason I haven't bought this yet.
A matter of screen real estate I would guess. IMHO he's done a pretty good job of optimising the UI for touch and the iPad.