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Gadget On IPhone: Game-Changer?
Has Korg Gadget's expansion onto the IPhone set the bar for apps to now need to include IPhone versions for apps?
I can think of of 1 or 2 apps off the top of my head that would rock on IPhone. I know some apps would be hard, but, is that an excuse anymore?
What say you?
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I was pretty annoyed when a flight attendant on a recent flight told me I had to turn off my iPad Pro for landing because it is considered a large electronic device!?! Then I remembered that Gadget will run on my phone
I think it will move in that direction, although Korg still needs to take Korg's advice, the whole idea of sideloading module and im1 rather than simply making those universal apps needs to be addressed. But with this single move, gadget is now bar none the best sequencer on the iphone, and that's acknowledging that it's a closed system. They've also shown that you can do serious composition on a smaller screen (well, Caustic has been quietly showing this fact for a long time). Anyhow, they also included icloud sync, which I think makes the universal app worthwhile, because you can still spread out on a bigger screen when you want to get serious.
I couldn't have said it's better.
Should have did a solo with Geo Shred on IPad pro in the aisle with full rock star bravado!
... and before that NanoStudio
But yep - Gadget has definitely raised the bar.
I've nearly finished my first entire track on an iPhone - now Gadget lets me do this.
I'm actually wondering if it's not easier to make a track on Gadget on an iPhone than an iPad. I say this because the phone allows me to pop in to the track and make a few tweaks, change the snare drum, try it on the car stereo, add some ornamentation etc... literally in a spare 10 minutes. Typically with an iPad I physiologically need to set aside at least 30mins to an hour to bother going into a track and working on it.
Of course - I can easily transfer to my ipad for finishing off.
But I honestly haven't found getting round the interface, designing patches, sequencing stuff etc. all that harder on my iPhone6. It's all wonderfully the same.
i may have mentioned it previously ... i purchased gadget for ipad the day it came out ... tinkered with it for a couple of hours and promptly forgot about it ... with the coming of gadget to iphone i installed it and cant leave it alone ... i think it might just be my favourite app right now !
This is my story too, I'd actually hated on it, deleted it off iPad, but now definitely it's become my favorite iPhone app...as @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said its easy to work on something (all day!) a bit at a time...
I think it's one of many important signals that mobile music production is the future of music production. It's just a matter of time before desktops become exclusive to office settings, with most consumers opting for a tablet for their basic computing. Tablets have to catch up a little of course. Music wise, pros will still need to plug in to large speaker systems at some point, but how long before its just people bringing their iPad into a studio and plugging in? Add to that the fact that touchscreen will continue to encourage innovation in interface design and I think that maybe, just maybe we will see EVENTUALLY a music industry shift where, while people aren't and won't be paying much for recorded music, people will be paying for increasingly clever innovative tools to create their own music. Of course live music will always be valued. Look at how many of these apps already allow people with no musical experience to express themselves musically. It will only get more accessible. The only thing missing is the marketing. You could even argue that just as Apple put music listening into everyones pocket, they are well poised to do the same for music making. Personally I think it's a beautiful thing. Musical expression is for everyone.
There are only three things that Gadget needs to be absolutely perfect: 1. The ability to record/edit/automate audio tracks in sync with a project. 2. The ability to load external apps and record them (via IAA/AU/AB with Link) 3. Midi out to control external apps.
However, if they were to only fulfill their promise and give us option 1. (The ability to record/edit/automate audio tracks in sync with a project), I would be a very happy user. :-)
One issue-
How do I share projects between the two devices
Great post. I hope you are right. It's certainly been my journey into music making (absolutely zero musical experience before my first app).
Wont AUM and Link deliver a good alternative to this?
Works a treat for me.
@Littlewoodg in the file menu in the top left, click on open to bring up your projects, slide a project to the left and you get the option to delete and to sync to icloud.
@Audiojunkie a-freaking men. Although I personally would prefer 3 which would free us up to patch together a solution to 1 and 2 while we wait for something complete.
@jocphone I really hope so, the problem I have is what would you use to sequence an external synth on the iphone with AUM and link? Let's say I want to fire up a preset in audulus or strng to go along with my gadget track, those are some wonderful synths, but without gadget's piano roll/automation controlling it, what's the parallel sequencer? At some point it's going to get cumbersome.
Modstep ?
@pierre I have modstep and on the ipad it might be the answer, very fun in its own right, but the iphone really doesn't have a great sequencer for external synths. Even Genome could be a good solution on the ipad, maybe lighter weight if you're only looking to add one or two additional tracks, put the whole thing through AUM and you're set. I guess the answer is, compose on the iphone, use the built in synths, and then expand to the ipad and its additional options and synths when you're ready.
I sometime imagine a beautiful world were Auxy iPhone had midi out, and Auxy iPad had link ....
I guess there is that but I was thinking of the audio tracks as recorded performances i.e. singing or playing a physical instrument. Of course you may also want to record the output of other synths sequenced and yes, that would be better served with MIDI out from Gadget.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 and @khidr9
Thanks!
Too cool!
The other sequencer for iPhone, that has audio tracks, midi note out to sequence/record external synths (hardware and indevice with IAA, AB) (no link but steady clock out) would be BM2.
No slouch, BM2, and had been my iPhone gadget till this Gadget. Lots of lovely synths to run on iPhone...and it's s trad. DAW. With mpc style sampler above and beyond any on iOS, certainly on iPhone. Layering sampler instrument too.
Right now it's Gadget, it's shiny and easy. But I have that cheatin on BM2 feelin...
On a very rudimentary level, it would work, but what would be better would be having a true multitrack recorder that allows you to edit and comp tracks. If Multitrack DAW ever gets Link, then recording into that will be the way to go. Currently, it can be done by doing a copy/paste of the audio, but things would be much easier with Link and doing it live. Let's all hope that either Gadget or Harmonic Dog (Multitrack DAW) improve the solution.
This! The sideloading is some kind of practical joke right? Was bad enough waiting for Bilbao and Abu Dhabi to download inside Gadget. Having add-ons like iM1 and Module be separate app purchases is The Right Way. IAPs are fussy in so many ways (can't back em up to iTunes on computer either), but having to implement their own download routine is just silly, and more important slow! So it's some kind of cosmic irony they made the IAPs universal but the add-ons are still iPad mostly. I really hope they're planning to change that SOON! So tempted to buy Module for iPad now on the assumption it will go universal (will they leave Module for iPhone as is? it's regular price IS lower). Sent an email to KORG, but so far, crickets. Hmm, now I want to sample a real live cricket, heh. Have fun with Gadget!
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I am not sure I understand. The sideload only has to be done one time, and it means korg is trying to find a way to make things work between apps without you having to pay again. What's the downside, besides a few minutes at the beginning. If it was an IAP it would take time to download.
So, we've had anger on this board whenhaving to pay twice (animoog comes to mind although I'm sure it's not the only one) and now anger that you DON'T have to pay twice.
Unless I'm missing something.
Here's a downside... I use my iPhone exclusively. What about us who don't use an iPad? How do WE get the extra goodies?!?
I flogged my ipad ages ago and only have iphone.
Luckily my missus has an ipad so i just changed the itunes and icloud sign in to mine, downloaded module, side loaded and then re-signed her back into her account when complete.
A lengthy process but it worked and i now have all the module gadgets on iphone.
+1
You young bucks obviously have better eyesight than me, I found Gadget on an iphone 6 to be just too cramped to be use-able. I've got a Plus now and it's considerably better on that.
Anybody know how to zoom on a Gadget in iPhone? I was trying to do this with the Tokyo drum machine but it wasn't happening.
Despite having an iPad I didn't buy Gadget until it rolled out for iphone (had iM1 on my ipad for quite awhile though). I am so damn delighted with Gadget right now, it's just fantastic.
I AM bitter about the Remote Install process though since part of my purchase was driven by the desire to have iM1 on my phone in Darwin form, but after three days of trying every strategy from Korg's instructions and this forum's tips, I just couldn't get it to install or even show up on the menu at all.
(Also, the automation piano roll really REALLY needs a reliable way to return the value to center...)
In landscape doubletap anywhere between the knobs, gov.
I don't understand why Positive Grid has Bias Amp for iPhone, but not Bias FX. Really annoys me. But I can't see Auria moving to the phone. Just too much going on. AUM interests me for that reason, be my phone dev spot, just have to figure out how to move stuff over to Auria for finishing.
I don't know that it's a game changer, in any sense. It's convenient. It can be a pain. I really don't find it takes me any more time to do stuff or get set up on the iPad. It's convenient to have stuff on the phone, for when I'm lying in bed at night, or out somewhere with a bit of spare time. Unfortunately, I mostly play my instruments, so it helps not at all with that. But I can use Notion to write music, which is great.
As to music making moving out of the pro ranks into amateurs at home, that capability has existed for a long time on the desktop. Present company excepted of course, (
), the petabytes of garbage being produced is tough to sift through to find the gems. And to be honest, I rarely find anything in the 'generated' music pile that floats my boat. I tend to like complexity, precision, originality. It's easy to produce a few beats on the phone. Getting past that is still no easier than it was 20 years ago. Less expensive perhaps, but not easier.