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Modstep: Yet another question.............................

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  • So does anyone know when this update is coming ? Like if it's awesome now why hold it back ?

  • Let me ask this stupid question for clarity.

    Is MODSTEP a glorified Genome or a Vertical Clip Based mini-Ableton? (I am being extreme in jest)

    So MODSTEP is actually really a DAW?

    It actually records AUDIO and MIDI?

    It records IAA audio in?

    So, if I play Animoog with Modstep, I can record ANIMOOG audio in MODSTEP?

    If so, this really makes MODSTEP almost independent of AUDIOBUS or all intensive purposes?

    I appreciate these dumb questions answered.

    THANKS

  • @RustiK said:
    Let me ask this stupid question for clarity.

    Is MODSTEP a glorified Genome or a Vertical Clip Based mini-Ableton? (I am being extreme in jest)

    So MODSTEP is actually really a DAW?

    It actually records AUDIO and MIDI?

    It records IAA audio in?

    So, if I play Animoog with Modstep, I can record ANIMOOG audio in MODSTEP?

    If so, this really makes MODSTEP almost independent of AUDIOBUS or all intensive purposes?

    I appreciate these dumb questions answered.

    THANKS

    1.) glorified Genome or a Vertical Clip Based mini-Ableton - uhhhh, neither....? But shades of both? Could never get into Genome to be honest. Modstep as a pure midi sequencer was so much easier to me.

    2.) So MODSTEP is actually really a DAW? - this could start a semantic war so I plead the 5th, some would say yes, others no

    3.) It actually records AUDIO and MIDI? - yes

    4.) It records IAA audio in? - yes and given the quantized bar recording or whatever you want to call it I think it is the best for me

    4.) So, if I play Animoog with Modstep, I can record ANIMOOG audio in MODSTEP? - yes

    5.) If so, this really makes MODSTEP almost independent of AUDIOBUS or all intensive purposes? - when I use it I do not touch audiobus. Note: it currently only allows for one effect on top of one IAA instruement. Fine by me though.

    For me Modstep is not an 'all in one' solution for making tracks and given the IAA woes of IOS probably makes it iffy for pure live situations. I hear the next update is kick ass and there is chatter of a song mode. In it's current form it is awesome for jamming and recording IAA apps and exporting to a more traditional multitrack hack and slice DAW like Protools, Samplitude, Reaper, Auria etc.

    Also, I love being able to have multiple clips with independent midi data sending to the same IAA app. So you can really create a pallet of midi parts and mix and match and layer on the fly.

    It is just so good!! Dive in! 8)

  • edited March 2016

    @RustiK
    DAW as a term has exploded of late on iOS, AUM and Modstep are the most obvious example. Audiobus, IAA and now Link are turning the device itself into a (kind of modular) DAW.

    The answer to your yes or no questions about Modstep are all yes, with the understanding that "DAW" means different things to different people. In the case of AUM and Modstep, neither has a timeline editor. In the case of Modstep, that's all that's "lacking" in a conventional DAW definition. It sequences midi, and records audio and midi, hosts channel and master fx, which makes it much more an Ableton Live style tool (the clip launch half) than it is a midi sequencer. It's an incredible live tool, that is also a production tool, like AUM but different (midi sequencing, midi recording, midi live play) and like AUM ships clips (and midi) to a timeline editor for finishing tracks.

    Both Modstep and AUM exploit IAA thoroughly. In my use case, I don't use AB with Modstep: the loop recording, and midi and stem export features make AB superfluous, where AUM, for me, twins with AB. The beauty of both of these tools is that they function on the device many different ways, so other people will position each one differently.

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    @RustiK
    DAW as a term has exploded of late on iOS, AUM and Modstep are the most obvious example. Audiobus, IAA and now Link are turning the device itself into a (kind of modular) DAW.

    The answer to your yes or no questions about Modstep are all yes, with the understanding that "DAW" means different things to different people. In the case of AUM and Modstep, neither has a timeline editor. In the case of Modstep, that's all that's "lacking" in a conventional DAW definition. It sequences midi, and records audio and midi, hosts channel and master fx, which makes it much more an Ableton Live style tool (the clip launch half) than it is a midi sequencer. It's an incredible live tool, that is also a production tool, like AUM but different (midi sequencing, midi recording, midi live play) and like AUM ships clips (and midi) to a timeline editor for finishing tracks.

    Both Modstep and AUM exploit IAA thoroughly. In my use case, I don't use AB with Modstep: the loop recording, and midi and stem export features make AB superfluous, where AUM, for me, twins with AB. The beauty of both of these tools is that they function on the device many different ways, so other people will position each one differently.

    Sounds well enough.

    Gracias.

  • Is there a way to import midi files into modstep?

  • @Tones4Christ said:
    Is there a way to import midi files into modstep?

    Pretty sure there isn't, but that it's on the todo list.

  • In addition to no timeline , I am struggling to understand how audio (including external) works in Modstep if this is being called a DAW .
    Having got an external audio in via Aum ( no direct mic/interface audio in? ) , it seems there is no way to directly record audio into the clips themselves . I was able to record an input using cassette icon into the "recordings " folder , which only offers " copy to sampler" option.
    Are clips only midi ? , & is the only method for audio in clips via the sampler?
    If so it is very confusing to call this a DAW .
    I ask to help clarify the facts of Modstep use for myself & other struggling newbies rather than general DAW existential discussion.

  • @Wally said:
    In addition to no timeline , I am struggling to understand how audio (including external) works in Modstep if this is being called a DAW .
    Having got an external audio in via Aum ( no direct mic/interface audio in? ) , it seems there is no way to directly record audio into the clips themselves . I was able to record an input using cassette icon into the "recordings " folder , which only offers " copy to sampler" option.

    Are clips only midi ?

    Yes

    , & is the only method for audio in clips via the sampler?

    or via a loaded IAA that has audio loaded and playing back.

    If so it is very confusing to call this a DAW .

    It is not the 'studio in a box' that we usually think of as a DAW, but it has a lot of functionality (with more coming) and you can perform complete tracks without using anything else. I think of it more as a 'performance sequencer', but it can be used for more that that.

    I ask to help clarify the facts of Modstep use for myself & other struggling newbies rather than general DAW existential discussion.

  • @AndyPlankton Thanks for answers , you've saved me a lot more headscratching .

    Well if it can't directly record or manipulate audio; in clips (Ableton Live session view) , or on a timeline then it's not a Digital Audio Workstation in my world & it may confuse others to call it such .
    Midisequencer with built in sampler , MPC -esque it seems . Capable of making whole tracks, it could be a " studio in a box " for many , but that itself is not a Digital Audio Workstation .

  • @Wally said:
    @AndyPlankton Thanks for answers , you've saved me a lot more headscratching .

    Well if it can't directly record or manipulate audio; in clips (Ableton Live session view) , or on a timeline then it's not a Digital Audio Workstation in my world & it may confuse others to call it such .
    Midisequencer with built in sampler , MPC -esque it seems . Capable of making whole tracks, it could be a " studio in a box " for many , but that itself is not a Digital Audio Workstation .

    Glad to be of assistance :)
    ModStep is awesome at doing what it does, which for me is make it easy and rewarding to make 'live sequenced' music on the iPad.

  • edited March 2016

    @AndyPlankton I agree it's a powerful tool I hope to make my main composition app , (once I understand it.)
    But potential buyers need to know e.g to audition/add a vocal part requires fetching recorded file from "recordings" folder & loading into a sampler , & any editing may need doing in external editor . ( please correct me if I'm wrong )

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @Wally said
    , & is the only method for audio in clips via the sampler?

    or via a loaded IAA that has audio loaded and playing back.

    further thinking finds this ^^ the better option , I'm off to wire LoopyHD into Modstep .

  • @Wally said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @Wally said
    , & is the only method for audio in clips via the sampler?

    or via a loaded IAA that has audio loaded and playing back.

    further thinking finds this ^^ the better option , I'm off to wire LoopyHD into Modstep .

    Do you have AUM ? This works great alongside ModStep as an audio playback and mixer engine.

  • Does Modstep support BT MIDI ?
    Can't seem to find anything about it in the manual, or elsewhere.

  • yes , & I'm just thinking about this now ... ideally I want Loopy & other audio into Aum , but midi sequencing in Modstep . I'm wondering whether A. to load Loopy Master as Modstep IAA for midi control but then route individual Loopy outs to Aum , or B. use generic midi instrument track routed to loopy midi .
    what I cant do I realise is use Aum as IAA instrument track to route midi to loopy as it will route Aum audio into Modstep which I dont want .

  • edited March 2016

    ^^^ I should have stated above that whilst I want to use Aum as a mixer , I disagree about its audio playback usefulness ; in terms of having to go searching for recorded files to reload into new fileplayer tracks , it's as clunky as previously discussed Modstep workflow ,
    so Loopy is still the best option for immediate record & playback of audio for me.

  • edited March 2016

    @Wally said:
    yes , & I'm just thinking about this now ... ideally I want Loopy & other audio into Aum , but midi sequencing in Modstep . I'm wondering whether A. to load Loopy Master as Modstep IAA for midi control but then route individual Loopy outs to Aum , or B. use generic midi instrument track routed to loopy midi .
    what I cant do I realise is use Aum as IAA instrument track to route midi to loopy as it will route Aum audio into Modstep which I dont want .

    I have been through both routes, far too many choices lol....I can't speak for Loopy as I do not use it, but both ways have their benefits.
    Keeping IAA's in ModStep means you can quantise record with no need for trimming, having stuff in AUM means you can have IAA's, AU's, AB outputs all in one mixer.

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