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Of course it can all go horribly wrong too...
Oh la la...
The internet has changed the map . Gone are the days that bright young things dominate the industry , now people of all ages and backgrounds are making exciting creative music and sharing their work online . Good times lol
hehe yah the stuff now is pretty clunky and I likely wont buy it myself until it is the size and fit of regular ski goggles and doesnt have to be cabled. Wont be long.
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Sum it up for me. Great piano playing but the whole of it, including the daft-punk-meets-Manhattan-Transfer vocals didn't do it for me. Would rather hear him just play the piano solo. The voicing in the quiet piano comping bit near the middle was my favorite part.
The next Kate bush or Bowie or insert rock legend here is out there. And they might be selling millions of records. Most of us are just too old to care/notice/appreciate what it is their adding to the mix. We look back as if the radio was amazing but go look at an old Billboard chart; most of it was absolute shit. These legends were diamonds in the rough for sure.
There are so many insanely great bands out there right now. Not to mention R&B singers, Hip Hop Artists, electronic experimentalists, etc. I'm constantly amazed by things I stumble upon via Spotify or Bandcamp.
Sure, almost all of it stands on the shoulders of giants but so did all the other greats mentioned in this thread. We just didn't know about the shoulders upon which they stood so it was 'fresh and new' to us. There is no Dylan without Seeger/Guthrie. No Stones without Muddy Waters. No Hendrix without Berry. No Sex Pistols without the The Stooges/NY Dolls. No Bowie without the velvets. No Kate Bush without Patty Smith/Eno............
Yeah, Joey Alexamder of course. Joey just plays the piano though (magnificently). But you tube "Jacob Collier".Even if he never played piano, he'd be a force. And yeah... I agree . The power of music has diminished considerably, what with it being accessible in every drug store and every coffee shop. Also, every great artist says the music comes through them, not from them. They are just receptors. And those cosmic radio stations are just not transmitting anymore. The greatness that Bach somehow picked up on, is simply not in the air.
@fruitbart: I can't stand Zappa and I'm a drummer! His music sounds like mice scurrying about. When unable to write a melody, go complex. If you can't write a song, get an orchestra, and make sure it's in 15/8. He was a character though. But his music is unlistenable to me.
You seem to have a pretty limited experience with Zappa's music. He has a huge wealth of melodic material, a lot of it quite simple and catchy, many songs based on his love for doo wop. And it wasn't all in complex time signatures with an orchestra either. If anything the most annoying thing about Zappa was the crass humor that populated a lot of his lyrics from the 70s on.
Toast. Everyone's got it.
As for And those cosmic radio stations are just not transmitting anymore. I completely disagree.
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Maybe after we reach a certain age, we wouldn't know the next great thing if we heard it. But, then, things were once fresh and new as far as pop culture as we know it goes, so it makes sense that innovative energy would fade some.
Great stuff. Love this type of music. As someone said, just needs a bit more grunge. Nice to see some real musical talent for a change.
Anyway, here is an unforgettable one for everyone! (Seeing as we are in a "jazzy mood")
Ask me again in 20 years (actually, ask my daughter in 20 years). And the answer 20 years from now, through the lens of perspective, probably won't be Bowie-like, musically, but the pattern of innovation will be obvious. Bowie didn't emerge as Bowie.
That would be neat and it's certainly possible but unlikely. Think of people in, say the 50s, who loved contemporary-to-them greats like Davis, Coltrane, Hopkins, Cole, Waters, Guthrie, etc but had no affection for the generation of music they all inspired. My father loved all that stuff but wanted no part of Led Zeppelin or Hendrix or David Bowie — even though he was 'only in his 30s' when that music was happening. The context for all of it, his life and the world that music was made in, had changed. He didn't suddenly lose a taste for 'good music' but he did sort of age (experience) out from what was happening around him; including, what's apparent to us now, lots and lots of great music.
Bowie's emergence was quite slow, the regard he is held in now is mostly hindsight, and would not have been obvious at the time. And in the immediate wake of Bowie and Bolan came the rest of glam rock: Slade, Sweet, Gary Glitter etc, hardly a great musical legacy
I don't think anyone at the time could have foreseen that Bowie and to a lesser extent Bolan would be remembered as greats (even if they were obviously a step above their peers), pop music is ephemeral and when you are living the moment you can't predict what will make a lasting impact. I imagine at the time that the Eagles were massively outselling Bowie. Cat Stevens probably outsold him. And while sales don't reflect future cultural impact, they are a good barometer for what is happening there and then.
Wow! so much great music in a thread!!!
this young lady is incredible .....
from around 8.36 OMG !!!
Fantastic share @enc . Been following up on some of her other music videos as a result. Wonderfully talented multi-instrumentalist.
More on her here:
http://www.rachelflowersfilm.com/main/about/about-rachel-flowers/
Patti released Horses in 75, I think Kate was at school then. No knock on Ms. Bush. Different bananas. Both derivative originals.
True. Older people I knew at the time, many who were highly knowledgeable and passionate musically, thought Bowie and most of that era was crap. I think all music is an acquired taste, how open we are to something new, and what it means to us personally because of the culture we feel a part of. With pop/rock, for me it was all about the Stones, then Cream, Hendrix, Zeppelin — in my youth. Bowie was cool, but never had that level of impact on me personally. One can trace who influenced who, and that’s another measure of greatness. In retrospect, I came to appreciate the Beatles and Dylan even more than when I was a kid.
What is greatness? Maybe it must stand the test of time, beyond those who were young and swept up in the moment of it.
Some boy band
But I agree that their late 60s/early 70s work with Whitfield was pretty epic:
Late to this party, but to suggest Frank Zappa could not or chose not to write melodic music is to suggest this song never happened:
FWIW, I'm pretty sure Mr. Zappa was considered a prodigy well before he was forty. Whether he was listener X's favorite prodigy is another story.
Just looked at the video in the OP. Great stuff. How big is that band anyways? 25 of them?
Looks like it would have been great fun being in the audience too there, though I think us watching the video of it all might be able to focus on various things easier than if it is just happening all around you, but still, looks like great fun.
When I lived in London I went for lots of live gigs, within all kinds of genres. Now, one thing that really gets me going for something is if the musicians have talent, and secondly if they do something new that I haven't heard before. This could include making old songs/classics in new ways, or adding something to them, but at least moving the boundaries forwards, even if just a little bit.
The things I liked the least were when talented musicians, especially young ones, were doing perfect versions of old classics. That'd mean they had spent an incredible amount of time learning something that had already been done. I think the better use of that talent would be to create the new classics for the future. If I want to hear a record of an old classic I, you know, put on that old classic.
Therefore I really like this video. I also looked up Jacob Collier for another few videos, and he seems to add his own flair to things even when doing "old" songs. Really talented multi-instrumentalist. Cool.
I can't stand Zappa and I'm a drummer! His music sounds like mice scurrying about. When unable to write a melody, go complex. If you can't write a song, get an orchestra, and make sure it's in 15/8. He was a character though. But his music is unlistenable to me.
LOL ...
Probably the cleverest guy in lots of rooms, Mister Zappa, but he was such a busy bugger...
Think, to some extent or other, we're all like my dad and your friend; that's kind of my point. He continued to dig new music (some of it challenging) like Spyro Gyra, Pat Methany, even Pink Floyd but simply was not interested in the Sex Pistols at 40 (though he did like Talking Heads).
Of course, unless you're Carnac, that would have been only a bet (or personal preference) in 1972. I'd bet on a few bands these days but I'm 45, what do I know?
(Post lost in edition.)
Johnny Goodyear. The Beatles, Bach , Hendrix, James Brown. Stevie Wonder.. Name me a single great artist who's emerged in the last 20 yrs whose music compares with those