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Right, I use LP-5 to launch the transition clips if I want to go all iPad. I do use Ableton Live when the situation calls for it (better control over the transitions, cross-fading, etc). Link has made all this possible.
And you got it: I'd assign a footswitch to program change "next".
Any chance you can tell us what is planned? I seem to remember you saying that multitrack recording was coming. Any details on what we are likely to see in Audiobus 3? Any time frame?
I seem to remember having requested loopy sessions to be loaded via an AB preset but I recall the response wasn't positive. I find it surprising since both come from the same developer. Hopefully Loopy ME will sort this out.
I think I recall @Sebastian saying that they were looking at it for AB3 (and Loopy ME) but don't remember if there were any comments about feasibility.
I suppose if Loopy ME allowed for more than 12 tracks than and Michael gets the grouping, chaining, and sequencing stuff (both inside and outside of Loopy ME) in there, it's possible that you could set up a super duper session that would allow for "songs" in different groups. Well, we'll see I guess...
In settings: alphabetical order, sort by developer, recently used, sort by drag & drop. That should remove most problems. It's true that people might have several hundred apps on a given list nowadays, thanks to bigger storage space and Audiobus awesomness.
You can search for that in the compatible apps list. https://audiob.us/apps/capability/state
yes I know, the information is abailable somewhere ... but in the workflow of making music and choosing an app from the list in AudioBus ... a simple icon next to the app icon would just help alot.
Yeah It really breaks the flow, instead of having just a basic filter on the Audiobus app browser/selector (ala excel) filter by statesaving so i only see my apps that have this function, i have to come out Audiobus, turn off aeroplane mode, connect to wifi, load up safari, search for Audiobus site, filter by state saving, scroll past the apps i dont have...yada yada...uncool and out of 'the flow'
I like @lala 's idea but its not an option
It is an option,
Apps can populate user created content to iOS search since iOS 9.
https://developer.apple.com/ios/search
I just wonder why the hell nobody is doing it. If anybody has more insight, please enlighten me.
I know it was "experimental" api when it was new but now iOS 10 is infront of the door. So what's up? Now there are 256 gb iOS devices out there. How do find my way through all that content when nobody is willing to integrate search???
Search on iOS really frustrates me. It finds nothing. So please please please with sugar on top look into this and lead the pack. ^^ @Michael @Sebastian
I mean look at this, its a sad joke.
why doesn't it show all apps that do ab under ab so i can tab them and then it would open that app in audiobus?
why can't I search for my "ab preset names"?
/rant
What Nick said. I have a lot of respect for @lala's method though!
Making the AB app selection lists less of a beast has been a recurring request since the dawn of this forum. I'd say if there's a filter deemed useful enough to use on the /apps page of the site, it's also going to be useful, maybe more so, in the UI of the application. I reckon few little icons would do it for mental filtering but I'd rather see a set of explicit, interactive filters for State Saving, Link support, Recently Used. Filters can grow with AudioBus and new tech, spaces for icons cannot.
I totally appreciate your steadfast dedication to simplicity—it's a big part of what makes using AB enjoyable. As a user, the noise in those lists breaks the simplicity mold. Maybe you have analytics that tell you 'users with more the 20 apps' is an edge case (and we're just in an echo chamber of the 5% here at the forum). If so, I'd totally understand.
If not, I hope 'complete reimagining of app selection' is at least on the table for AB3. While perhaps not a part of the original mission, AB 'the app' (vs AB 'the tech/sdk') is most definitely an "app launcher". Indeed, launching apps is the thing we do most when inside the AB app! As such, whatever you'd do if you were trying to design the world's best app launching app probably deserves consideration for inclusion in the AB app.
I'm sure you two can come up with solutions much more elegant that I could be here's my spitball anyway:
I'd love an app selection list that looked more like the /apps page on the website (w/o app descriptions). Instead of a vertical list, hitting the add button would bring up a nice big grid of icons+name, similar to an iOS home screen folder view, with list controls on top styled just like the website. A 4x4 or 5x5 list would be much faster to scan. Bonus, you get the visual brand consistency between the app list and the site's app list.
Along the top I'd like to see these Filters and Sorting options:
Filters
Sort By
One thing I'm stuck on in this just-like-a-home-screen-folder grid thinking is how to allow for port selection. If the hit zone for each app is a square, that really only leaves long press. Which is hard to communicate without instructions. Which is almost antithetical to the entire AB experience. So, meh. Could force port selection when an app with ports is selected but that sounds noisy for users who don't know (or ever care) about ports. Maybe it's a grid of rectangles so that a right side hit zone can be added like the current AB list? I dunno.
/spitball
lol, now I understand what you meant
you meant the delete anything that doesn't do state saving thing
guess, I was just fed up with going through all the apps I have and ending up with stuff that doesn't recreate, hehe
Yep @ rectangular hit-zones. Any app with additional ports or with an associated state save should get the right arrow treatment. Tapping it brings up a list of ports and/or a list of saved states associated with that app. Because, awesome.
PS. Helping us sort/filter/organize all of our saved states has now become a moral issue. Demanding things from app developers is the acme of horseshit but with AB state saving, it has come to the point where you must do it or I'm calling your parents. Allowing access to saved states from the app out outward is a possible step on the path to righteousness!
Yes, sorry if that wasn't clear. It sounds ruthless yet it's very inspiring!
edit: Just realized you were talking to @DaveMagoo!
+1 to making AB presets available via spotlight though I'm not sure I'd ever use it. I turn off everything in spotlight except for apps. Just want as little lag as possible there.
I was talking-to both of you.
yes its ruthless. I am pushy when it comes to tec, ask the developers, lol
I am pushy and demanding and I don't feel bad about it.
everybody wins
So AUM, of all apps
does launch apps automatically. That is veeeery neat and super useful. It feels like what AB should have been in a way, in fact when state saving got introduced I somehow, naively thought that all of the apps would automagically load up.
Well, probably it isn't as easy as it seems and probably requires the latest sdk, etc, etc. I notice that some apps I.e. Samplr do not load but it is a small fry to have to start one app before firing the host app rather than having to load them one by one.
Mind you, still better than having to start session from scratch
hm if I could search audioshare with iOS search I would be much happier
then I could just search for my audio like I do on the mac
I need to kick him again, I did already, please join ^^
Its so ridiculous, we create all this content but we can't search and find it
Im willing to ditch the laptop but not like things are ...
I hope drag and drop will be in iOS 10, so we are getting closer and closer
but as I said, not if search isn't integrated in central apps, it would drive me crazy
_hey siri, show me recordings I did last month
hey siri start "this" audiobus project
hey siri show me all samples that have "snare" in their name
hey siri show me "this" audiofile
_
thats basicly the direction where I`d like to see things going
search is the backdoor to siri ...
(the iPad pros all support always on siri)
AB could launch apps automagically - it's killing them that's not possible.
Truth. And no state saving in AUM (unless I'm doing something wrong).
yes, please
@Sebastian Since this thread will be going on the AB3 todo list, I'll reiterate my request for adding notes to AB presets. It would come in especially handy for those presets with apps that don't support state saving. It's a minor point, but one I've wanted ever since the feature was introduced.
While I'm a fan of a easier search method I also had this strange thought:
if I don't even know how to find a instrument in my storage/studio it is probably time to sell it/ditch it. It is and will be dust collecting dust.
I would rather be able to import my folder structure
yes that would be nice, state saving saves the right sounds but I always forget what notes to play with those sounds
, a little reminder would be nice
Notes are good.
English me no like. That does come off odd on second reading. What would be a better term? Annotations? Written account? Memorandum, marginalia, memoranda, memo, or minute?
I like the idea of being able to add apps internals to the iOS search like u setup the widgets on the slide down screen and add which ones u want. So if i added audioshare to iOS search it would then search all Audioshares shared directory and samples etc...