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What steps should i take if i want to jailbreak, anything to be aware of?

I'm not using it much for audio stuff these days and i like the idea of being able to set up and customize it how i want, what i can i say; i'm a tinkerer! :p

Anyway i want to be able to run and restore apps i use like Day One and Evernote so i wanna be sure i do that or roll back to iOS if i have any issues before i even think about it.

Thanks!

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  • At the moment you're out of luck unless you're on an older version of iOS- I believe there are jailbreaks for 9.0.2 and 9.1, but neither were that stable overall anyway. If you're unsure check out https://canijailbreak.com/ or the jailbreak subreddit.

  • 9.2 i think, can't install the latest one. I'll hold off updating that then. Cheers!

  • edited April 2016

    I've been thinking of jailbreaking myself, if nothing ugly rears it's head in 9.3 and that becomes available. There are a few vital updates to apps in my toolkit coming up that I'm waiting on, but then I'm thinking to 'lock' my device and apps to their present state until next winter, to guarantee stability throughout summer performance season. There was some reason that I was thinking to jailbreak at that point but I'm not sure what it was. I did hear a rumour that you can disable CPU throttling on a jailbroken device (which would be KILLER!), but it might have been in an older version of iOS, or just false.

    I don't have anything to add really. I'll be watching this thread and comment if I happen to learn anything else!

    O

  • @OscarSouth What kind of CPU throttling are you referring to? Do you mean overclocking a device? Not trying to be rude I just haven't heard of it in regards to iOS.

    I'm with you on 'locking down' a device for music making purposes. 9.3 seems to be the business as far as stability goes so let's hope for a jailbreak soon! (rumors are already flying)

  • Jail breaking is great as long as you don't need your device to work correctly. I went down that road twice in the past but just not worth it in my opinion. At first it seems great but I noticed that over time it seems to get worse and worse until it's running terribly.

  • @mrufino1 Out of interest which OS was this on? I've been jailbreaking since iOS6 and though it certainly isn't for the faint of heart I find you can get answers for most common problems online. Jailbreaking itself doesn't usually make a device run any differently, it's the tweaks you install that may have an effect. It can take a lot of trial and error to find a stable 'balance' of tweaks but the gains outweigh the negatives for me, and once it's stable it's usually very low maintenance.

  • @thatsRayor said:
    @mrufino1 Out of interest which OS was this on? I've been jailbreaking since iOS6 and though it certainly isn't for the faint of heart I find you can get answers for most common problems online. Jailbreaking itself doesn't usually make a device run any differently, it's the tweaks you install that may have an effect. It can take a lot of trial and error to find a stable 'balance' of tweaks but the gains outweigh the negatives for me, and once it's stable it's usually very low maintenance.

    I think one was on 7, the other on 8? Maybe it was 6 and 7, I don't remember.

    I was constantly rooting phones when I had Android and with both that and jail breaking I felt like that guy who had that car in his yard eternally on blocks but it never drove. Sure, I could spend all day figuring out a small issue, or I could just get in my cr-v and get where I'm going without hassle.

    Although it was nice to have access to the file system, eventually the pros did not outweigh the cons, for me at least.

  • @mrufino1 said:

    @thatsRayor said:
    @mrufino1 Out of interest which OS was this on? I've been jailbreaking since iOS6 and though it certainly isn't for the faint of heart I find you can get answers for most common problems online. Jailbreaking itself doesn't usually make a device run any differently, it's the tweaks you install that may have an effect. It can take a lot of trial and error to find a stable 'balance' of tweaks but the gains outweigh the negatives for me, and once it's stable it's usually very low maintenance.

    I think one was on 7, the other on 8? Maybe it was 6 and 7, I don't remember.

    I was constantly rooting phones when I had Android and with both that and jail breaking I felt like that guy who had that car in his yard eternally on blocks but it never drove. Sure, I could spend all day figuring out a small issue, or I could just get in my cr-v and get where I'm going without hassle.

    Although it was nice to have access to the file system, eventually the pros did not outweigh the cons, for me at least.

    Yeah fair enough. With every new OS jailbreaking becomes less and less useful too, as Apple adds more features (often borrowing ideas from jailbreak tweaks heh). I really like having that extra level of control so I'll keep waiting eagerly for a new jailbreak... :)

  • Don't bother doing it. There is little to gain from it. Your iPad becomes a little unstable, plus you still have to pay for apps on Cydia. I do it on my iPad 2, & iPhone 4.......... Cydia is really overrated. I only Jailbroken to access my external hard drives/contacts to my SIM card,use XBox Controller for playing games(all USB access)etc. You have to paid for those privileges. If Apple released some of this(I was hoping iPad Pro would of at least access external Hardrives like a PC) it would take a most of Cydias Thunder.

  • edited April 2016

    What's the point of installing on os from an untrusted source?
    Any kind of nasty shit could be in it ...

  • @lala....... I totally agree.

  • edited April 2016

    @thatsRayor said:
    @OscarSouth What kind of CPU throttling are you referring to? Do you mean overclocking a device? Not trying to be rude I just haven't heard of it in regards to iOS.

    I'm with you on 'locking down' a device for music making purposes. 9.3 seems to be the business as far as stability goes so let's hope for a jailbreak soon! (rumors are already flying)

    I ran a quick google search for iOS overclocking. Apparently it's 'possible' (actually not an overclock but just removing CPU power limitation). There are some videos about it on youtube but the iOS version looks very old. Probably no longer works.

    I was hopeful that charging while performing (CCK3) would reduce power throttling, but I'm not sure this is the case.

    O

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  • @OscarSouth said:
    I've been thinking of jailbreaking myself, if nothing ugly rears it's head in 9.3 and that becomes available. There are a few vital updates to apps in my toolkit coming up that I'm waiting on, but then I'm thinking to 'lock' my device and apps to their present state until next winter, to guarantee stability throughout summer performance season. There was some reason that I was thinking to jailbreak at that point but I'm not sure what it was. I did hear a rumour that you can disable CPU throttling on a jailbroken device (which would be KILLER!), but it might have been in an older version of iOS, or just false.

    I don't have anything to add really. I'll be watching this thread and comment if I happen to learn anything else!

    That sort of things is why, i can optimise and remove all the crapple that i never use taking up my precious 16gb!

    It seems fraught with risk though and one of the reasons i like the iPad (though it's a love/hate thing) is that it works. Hate the limitations though but i was thinking to lock the iPad as well.

    Once jailbroken you can revert though right? I'd only do it that being the case otherwise it's not worth it.

  • @lala said:
    What's the point of installing on os from an untrusted source?
    Any kind of nasty shit could be in it ...

    Ok but are there known issues with the OS? I'll check as far as i can it's safe as before hand but a lot of people seem to do it and i've not seen anything about security issues with it, most people who've jb'd seem to be content.

  • If you mean stealing your passwords or adding malware with jb , no.
    And stability isn't an issue as long as you don't install 'auto-magical-premium- boosters/cleaners' etc. I plan to jb next week to get rid of iTunes ,adblocking ,and point most app folders to a mega audioshare folder.
    PS. Adjusting the cpu frequency isn't possible. Most people think that jb is like rooting an android phone. Wrong.

  • Thanks! Does jailbreaking allow optimising or improving peformance in anyway like with Windows? I can do it as a wee test and if i have issues just install 9.3 assuming i'll still be able to by then!

  • Access to a file system is the reason I've done it in the past. Super helpful to be able to move files around to different apps. I may do it again if it becomes available for my current os.

  • @Korakios said:

    ...and point most app folders to a mega audioshare folder.

    what tweak is it or is it a shortcut folder in its documents folder?

    Jailbreaking since iOS 5. Actually because of Swiftkey tweak (the appstore thing is garbage) and NoSlowAnimation. The last one is "overclocking" in terms of interface speed which I could imagin reduces the cpu.
    And well adblocker. But those are for my 6. Maybe not that important on my ipad.

  • @tarsonis I mean create shortcuts.I don't have jailbroken my current iPad (sold the old jb one) to make step by step instructions ,but there is lot info on the net.
    If 9.3 fixes performance issues ,I don't mind going official.

  • @Korakios Ah nice. Great idea! Well should be easy with filza or ifile to set up a shortcut.

  • edited April 2016

    On doing a little more research, one big plus of jailbreaking would be optimising (eradicating!!) Apples stupid and slow app switching and transparency effects (even the reduced motion ones). Most of the audio glitching that I've experienced has occurred during app switching and it's also laboriously slow. These silly things must be eating away at our precious gigahertz and cumulatively, I think that small tweaks like this would make a big difference.

    O

  • JB definitely sounds enticing but I'd rather spend the time programming synths and messing with music rather than fiddling with the OS. I had that experience with Windows before switching to osx and don't miss the time spent looking for solutions on line and reinstalling drivers.

    I seriously doubt apple would tune down the device because it wanted to slow down the performance per se. It's bound to e the fine balance between the screen brightness, heat management, power draw and expected battery life.

    I know people have been doing this for ages with gaming machines etc. but some also have had motherboard meltdowns and other problems.

    I guess you've stated that you don't use it for music and you're a tinkerer then I'd say go for it. I'd be curious of your adventures so do report back.

  • edited April 2016

    @supadom said:
    JB definitely sounds enticing but I'd rather spend the time programming synths and messing with music rather than fiddling with the OS. I had that experience with Windows before switching to osx and don't miss the time spent looking for solutions on line and reinstalling drivers.

    I guess it's what you want out of the process. Music is my living so if I have to spend a few days toiling and tweaking but can create a better and more reliable instrument in the process, then it's acceptable to me (and then some).

    I seriously doubt apple would tune down the device because it wanted to slow down the performance per se. It's bound to e the fine balance between the screen brightness, heat management, power draw and expected battery life.

    Exactly. It's intended as a balance for 'everyday' people and a broader market spectrum who are primarily used on batteries (even iPad 'Pro'). I reckon it would be theoretically possible to get a LOT more out of the hardware if was refined to suit a powered, high performance/high precision usage. Unfortunately I doubt that there's a lot you can do beyond removing/speeding up animations, transparencies etc., but wishful thinking.

    I know people have been doing this for ages with gaming machines etc. but some also have had motherboard meltdowns and other problems.

    That's the price you pay!!

    I guess you've stated that you don't use it for music and you're a tinkerer then I'd say go for it. I'd be curious of your adventures so do report back.

    Made me smile here when i got to this point (worked through them one at a time) because it's about as far from my case as is imaginable. I'm on the complete other end of the spectrum myself where I need a professional tool for high level performance that is as refined and optimised as possible.

    I'm definitely going look into it more but unfortunately don't have time at the minute (and need to wait for 9.3JB). I guess it's the broad category people in the middle who fall under 'general usage' that are theoretically best of sticking with the official OS.

    O

  • What gave you the impression I was addressing you @OscarSouth?

    I was in fact responding to the OP

  • edited April 2016

    @supadom said:
    What gave you the impression I was addressing you @OscarSouth?

    I was in fact responding to the OP

    I understood this, just enjoyed the tangent it set me thinking on, overanalysing patterns and such like.

    O

  • @supadom said: 'I guess you've stated that you don't use it for music and you're a tinkerer then I'd say go for it. I'd be curious of your adventures so do report back.'

    Made me smile here when i got to this point (worked through them one at a time) because it's about as far from my case

    That seems like a direct response to what I responded to the OP. I don't care what your case or your journey is mate as long it is parallel to mine.

  • edited April 2016

    @supadom said:

    @supadom said: 'I guess you've stated that you don't use it for music and you're a tinkerer then I'd say go for it. I'd be curious of your adventures so do report back.'

    Made me smile here when i got to this point (worked through them one at a time) because it's about as far from my case

    That seems like a direct response to what I responded to the OP. I don't care what your case or your journey is mate as long it is parallel to mine.

    My apologies. I post here to learn and help regarding iOS music and to contribute to the greater community as a whole. I don't wish to engage in message board drama.

    O

  • @OscarSouth said:

    @supadom said:

    @supadom said: 'I guess you've stated that you don't use it for music and you're a tinkerer then I'd say go for it. I'd be curious of your adventures so do report back.'

    Made me smile here when i got to this point (worked through them one at a time) because it's about as far from my case

    That seems like a direct response to what I responded to the OP. I don't care what your case or your journey is mate as long it is parallel to mine.

    My apologies. I post here to learn and help regarding iOS music and to contribute to the greater community as a whole. I don't wish to engage in message board drama.

    O

    Then try not to cause drama by picking apart other people's posts and being smartassy about them. It's the tone mate, not the content.

  • edited April 2016

    Let's get back on track, shall we? ;)

    This was the video I saw on overclocking, but learned from comments that it's actually just removing the CPU throttling. I don't know if it works with iOS9 (or ever)

    Loads of smaller system level tweaks around, few good ones on this list:
    http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/12/12/best-ios-9-cydia-tweaks-for-better-performance/?gbmsl=2

    I'm interested to see how much cumulative impact it would be possible to rack up.

    O

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