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The Difference in Synthesizers?

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @syrupcore said:

    @sleepless said:
    ^ Indeed, many revered vintage analogs were shockingly bad, build-wise. Especially the SH-101 & MC-202, the latter of which felt like it could snap in half if you merely glanced at it wrong.

    202 for sure but I've had the same SH-101 since 1986. Played a ton of shows with it—didn't even have a case for it for the first 20 years or so! I've had it repaired twice in all that time.

    I've had lots of hardware that never liked my cigarette smoke :p

  • mschenkel.itmschenkel.it

    @u0421793 said:
    What I’d really like is if iVCS3 had more realistic knobs. I mean, they all have a shiny reflection in it, but it’s not a shiny reflection of me (not even naked). What would be a huge improvement would be if, when I start up iVCS3, it briefly takes a photo of what it sees, and uses that as the reflection in the knobs. Even better would be if it senses tilt — pitch, roll and yaw (which iVCS3 already does as a knob controller setting) and uses that as a dynamic distortion map for the reflection. Imagine how much better it would sound then.

    Brilliant. But for the sound part

  • WillWill

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @syrupcore said:

    @sleepless said:
    ^ Indeed, many revered vintage analogs were shockingly bad, build-wise. Especially the SH-101 & MC-202, the latter of which felt like it could snap in half if you merely glanced at it wrong.

    202 for sure but I've had the same SH-101 since 1986. Played a ton of shows with it—didn't even have a case for it for the first 20 years or so! I've had it repaired twice in all that time.

    I've had lots of hardware that never liked my cigarette smoke :p

    Lots of that too come to think of it.

  • sleeplesssleepless

    @syrupcore said:

    @sleepless said:
    ^ Indeed, many revered vintage analogs were shockingly bad, build-wise. Especially the SH-101 & MC-202, the latter of which felt like it could snap in half if you merely glanced at it wrong.

    202 for sure but I've had the same SH-101 since 1986. Played a ton of shows with it—didn't even have a case for it for the first 20 years or so! I've had it repaired twice in all that time.

    Oh, I'm not saying the 101's easily breakable (certainly not built as badly as the mk1 bassstation), but it does make me laugh when people complain that modern Roland gear is plasticky, as if they used to make synths like tanks. Even the largely metal Juno-106 still felt a little fragile. That said, I thought the DSI Prophet 08 felt a little cheap, but that might be because I expect much higher manufacturing quality from a £1400 synth.

  • PeteclagPeteclag

    Get Thor. It will cover at least 96.7% of your needs. One of the easiest synths to program despite the wide variety of sounds it covers.

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    @srcer said:

    I like the minimal number of tools approach, glad to hear you've pushed Gadget so far, as that is my main bet getting into all this. Curious what your top picks in the FM, granular, and drum categories are, as I agree whole heartedly that Mersenne sounds great! :)

    Personally:

    FM- FM4 (although I haven't played with it much). IPhophet also sounds amazing but looks more complicated.

    I use iDensity for Granular sounding things (again, simple). However it's not really a synth. People would probably say Poisedon or Mitosynth I expect.

    Drum synths - I LOVE the sound of iElectribe, Elastic Drums and SeekBeats.

  • skiphuntskiphunt

    To be clear... the original post has nothing to do with synth purchasing advice. It was just about synths in general. :)

  • srcersrcer

    @skiphunt said:
    To be clear... the original post has nothing to do with synth purchasing advice. It was just about synths in general. :)

    I guess I better sign up for the appoholics meetings ;)
    If you've got an info addiction to feed, here's a series of articles a friend recommended when I started to ask about all these knobs and patches in synthesizers.
    Sound On Sound: Synth Secrets by Gordon Reid http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/synsec/

    As to the theory of getting any sound you want from synthesis much less a given synth I'll just leave you with this:
    http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DifferenceBetweenTheoryAndPractice

  • srcersrcer

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Personally:

    FM- FM4 (although I haven't played with it much). IPhophet also sounds amazing but looks more complicated.

    I use iDensity for Granular sounding things (again, simple). However it's not really a synth. People would probably say Poisedon or Mitosynth I expect.

    Drum synths - I LOVE the sound of iElectribe, Elastic Drums and SeekBeats.

    Thanks!
    FM4 - another reason I need an iPad
    iDensity and Mitosynth were on the list ;)
    As well as SeekBeats too!

    Elastic Drums is the one I'm trying to learn right now. I feel like I can tap on a table to a rhythm ok, but when trying to enter beats into it all I'm getting is lifeless patterns.

    Do you have both iPhone and iPad iElectribe? If I'm going to get the new iPad eventually is there any reason to get the iPhone version now? Seems silly to buy both, especially at those prices. There's also the question of the Gorillaz Edition. Which is why I held off putting it on the list.

  • srcersrcer

    @Peteclag said:
    Get Thor. It will cover at least 96.7% of your needs. One of the easiest synths to program despite the wide variety of sounds it covers.

    All the cool kids have stuff that's iPad only :(
    That interface does seem like it would be hard to cram into the iPhone screen, but hey Gadget did it!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @srcer said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Personally:

    FM- FM4 (although I haven't played with it much). IPhophet also sounds amazing but looks more complicated.

    I use iDensity for Granular sounding things (again, simple). However it's not really a synth. People would probably say Poisedon or Mitosynth I expect.

    Drum synths - I LOVE the sound of iElectribe, Elastic Drums and SeekBeats.

    Thanks!
    FM4 - another reason I need an iPad
    iDensity and Mitosynth were on the list ;)
    As well as SeekBeats too!

    Elastic Drums is the one I'm trying to learn right now. I feel like I can tap on a table to a rhythm ok, but when trying to enter beats into it all I'm getting is lifeless patterns.

    Do you have both iPhone and iPad iElectribe? If I'm going to get the new iPad eventually is there any reason to get the iPhone version now? Seems silly to buy both, especially at those prices. There's also the question of the Gorillaz Edition. Which is why I held off putting it on the list.

    Elastic Drums - make good use of the Length setting in the sequencer settings for each seperate drum - a good way to interesting patterns :)

  • sleeplesssleepless

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @srcer said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Personally:

    FM- FM4 (although I haven't played with it much). IPhophet also sounds amazing but looks more complicated.

    I use iDensity for Granular sounding things (again, simple). However it's not really a synth. People would probably say Poisedon or Mitosynth I expect.

    Drum synths - I LOVE the sound of iElectribe, Elastic Drums and SeekBeats.

    Thanks!
    FM4 - another reason I need an iPad
    iDensity and Mitosynth were on the list ;)
    As well as SeekBeats too!

    Elastic Drums is the one I'm trying to learn right now. I feel like I can tap on a table to a rhythm ok, but when trying to enter beats into it all I'm getting is lifeless patterns.

    Do you have both iPhone and iPad iElectribe? If I'm going to get the new iPad eventually is there any reason to get the iPhone version now? Seems silly to buy both, especially at those prices. There's also the question of the Gorillaz Edition. Which is why I held off putting it on the list.

    Elastic Drums - make good use of the Length setting in the sequencer settings for each seperate drum - a good way to interesting patterns :)

    Elastic Drums comes to life when you record automation of its phenomenal amount of tweakable parameters. Amazing app.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @sleepless said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @srcer said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Personally:

    FM- FM4 (although I haven't played with it much). IPhophet also sounds amazing but looks more complicated.

    I use iDensity for Granular sounding things (again, simple). However it's not really a synth. People would probably say Poisedon or Mitosynth I expect.

    Drum synths - I LOVE the sound of iElectribe, Elastic Drums and SeekBeats.

    Thanks!
    FM4 - another reason I need an iPad
    iDensity and Mitosynth were on the list ;)
    As well as SeekBeats too!

    Elastic Drums is the one I'm trying to learn right now. I feel like I can tap on a table to a rhythm ok, but when trying to enter beats into it all I'm getting is lifeless patterns.

    Do you have both iPhone and iPad iElectribe? If I'm going to get the new iPad eventually is there any reason to get the iPhone version now? Seems silly to buy both, especially at those prices. There's also the question of the Gorillaz Edition. Which is why I held off putting it on the list.

    Elastic Drums - make good use of the Length setting in the sequencer settings for each seperate drum - a good way to interesting patterns :)

    Elastic Drums comes to life when you record automation of its phenomenal amount of tweakable parameters. Amazing app.

    Yeah go wild with ED :)

  • srcersrcer

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @sleepless said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @srcer said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    Personally:

    FM- FM4 (although I haven't played with it much). IPhophet also sounds amazing but looks more complicated.

    I use iDensity for Granular sounding things (again, simple). However it's not really a synth. People would probably say Poisedon or Mitosynth I expect.

    Drum synths - I LOVE the sound of iElectribe, Elastic Drums and SeekBeats.

    Thanks!
    FM4 - another reason I need an iPad
    iDensity and Mitosynth were on the list ;)
    As well as SeekBeats too!

    Elastic Drums is the one I'm trying to learn right now. I feel like I can tap on a table to a rhythm ok, but when trying to enter beats into it all I'm getting is lifeless patterns.

    Do you have both iPhone and iPad iElectribe? If I'm going to get the new iPad eventually is there any reason to get the iPhone version now? Seems silly to buy both, especially at those prices. There's also the question of the Gorillaz Edition. Which is why I held off putting it on the list.

    Elastic Drums - make good use of the Length setting in the sequencer settings for each seperate drum - a good way to interesting patterns :)

    Elastic Drums comes to life when you record automation of its phenomenal amount of tweakable parameters. Amazing app.

    Yeah go wild with ED :)

    Thanks guys! I'll keep trying, maybe look for some more videos that break it down. I know I've heard good stuff from other people, so it's just me that needs an education

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