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iMPC Pro update - midi mapping still not working

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  • its so crazy that it's working for all you guys :( but I'm happy for you too...

    i press the turntable to sample
    select iaa as source
    select animoog and it loads just fine.
    then I touch the keys and it's all over, each and every single time...100% reproduce rate.... it's like a curse.

  • Something has to be corrupted. Either animoog install or model 15 or iMPC Pro. Have you thought about doing a complete restore?

  • I've deleted and re-installed the impc pro and animoog several times and no change.... I just got a message from Adam at moog, he says he thinks the problem is that my iPad is not powerful enough to run the apps. I was under the impression that an iPad mini 4 is more than powerful enough to run that and then some?

  • @Samu said:
    I just re-installed iMPC Pro to test recording and IAA-Animoog works fine (iPad Air 2, iOS9.3.2).

    I did notice a funny 'glitch' though. If Animoog is left in the IAA slot in the sample-recorder it will continues to receive Midi from iMPC Pro causing quite a havoc. Took me a while to figure out what was happening when the iMPC Pro 'pads' triggered Animoog even though midi-in was disabled in Animoog.

    Anyways, hopefully someday AudioCopy will get the IAA-Sampling that is present in iMPC Pro as it's one of the better implementations of iAA-Sampling available on iOS.

    Wait...does iMPC Pro have MIDI out now?? I've avoided it because I thought it only triggered internal samples.

  • edited June 2016

    @kobamoto said:
    I've deleted and re-installed the impc pro and animoog several times and no change.... I just got a message from Adam at moog, he says he thinks the problem is that my iPad is not powerful enough to run the apps. I was under the impression that an iPad mini 4 is more than powerful enough to run that and then some?

    It is perhaps something that all men, in the silence of their own mind, must at last come to terms with; they feel less powerful and what they thought was enough isn't enough. While you had always told yourself that 4 was plenty, and perhaps, way back, when you were a younger man, you could make that 4 work for you, now, now not so much, but this is where technology can help the older man. Blush not, say hello to Big Boy, we think you're going to like him....

  • hahahaha bravo.... alas I seem to be the only one with an iPad mini 4 that has this problem, I thought they were as powerful as an air 2 or a little more?

  • @sleepless said:

    @Samu said:
    I just re-installed iMPC Pro to test recording and IAA-Animoog works fine (iPad Air 2, iOS9.3.2).

    I did notice a funny 'glitch' though. If Animoog is left in the IAA slot in the sample-recorder it will continues to receive Midi from iMPC Pro causing quite a havoc. Took me a while to figure out what was happening when the iMPC Pro 'pads' triggered Animoog even though midi-in was disabled in Animoog.

    Anyways, hopefully someday AudioCopy will get the IAA-Sampling that is present in iMPC Pro as it's one of the better implementations of iAA-Sampling available on iOS.

    Wait...does iMPC Pro have MIDI out now?? I've avoided it because I thought it only triggered internal samples.

    No but you can sample IAA apps directly into impc pro or using AUM if you want to use insert effects!
    It's pretty great! I need to start using it more.

  • @jbvdb said:

    @sleepless said:

    @Samu said:
    I just re-installed iMPC Pro to test recording and IAA-Animoog works fine (iPad Air 2, iOS9.3.2).

    I did notice a funny 'glitch' though. If Animoog is left in the IAA slot in the sample-recorder it will continues to receive Midi from iMPC Pro causing quite a havoc. Took me a while to figure out what was happening when the iMPC Pro 'pads' triggered Animoog even though midi-in was disabled in Animoog.

    Anyways, hopefully someday AudioCopy will get the IAA-Sampling that is present in iMPC Pro as it's one of the better implementations of iAA-Sampling available on iOS.

    Wait...does iMPC Pro have MIDI out now?? I've avoided it because I thought it only triggered internal samples.

    No but you can sample IAA apps directly into impc pro or using AUM if you want to use insert effects!
    It's pretty great! I need to start using it more.

    I was just wondering about the "it will continue to receive MIDI from iMPC Pro part above.

  • Any time there's a headache w/ an app, the developer is quick to lay the blame on your pathetic device. It's very lazy.

  • yeah but sometimes devices do get old, but mine isn't an iPad 4 it's an iPad mini 4, supposed to be like an air 2 so something is off.......
    it records nave through iaa into the impc pro like a dream

  • the strange thing is that moog said they can reproduce it...

  • @kobamoto said:
    I've deleted and re-installed the impc pro and animoog several times and no change.... I just got a message from Adam at moog, he says he thinks the problem is that my iPad is not powerful enough to run the apps. I was under the impression that an iPad mini 4 is more than powerful enough to run that and then some?

    Adam is mistaken. The Ipad Mini 4 (A8 chip with 64-bit architecture) has better specs. than my Ipad Air1 (A7 chip with 64-bit architecture). My Air1 has no problem sampling Animoog via IAA. It did have a problem with Model 15 but the recent update fixed that problem.

  • The mystery continues.....

  • @sleepless said:

    @jbvdb said:

    @sleepless said:

    @Samu said:
    I just re-installed iMPC Pro to test recording and IAA-Animoog works fine (iPad Air 2, iOS9.3.2).

    I did notice a funny 'glitch' though. If Animoog is left in the IAA slot in the sample-recorder it will continues to receive Midi from iMPC Pro causing quite a havoc. Took me a while to figure out what was happening when the iMPC Pro 'pads' triggered Animoog even though midi-in was disabled in Animoog.

    Anyways, hopefully someday AudioCopy will get the IAA-Sampling that is present in iMPC Pro as it's one of the better implementations of iAA-Sampling available on iOS.

    Wait...does iMPC Pro have MIDI out now?? I've avoided it because I thought it only triggered internal samples.

    No but you can sample IAA apps directly into impc pro or using AUM if you want to use insert effects!
    It's pretty great! I need to start using it more.

    I was just wondering about the "it will continue to receive MIDI from iMPC Pro part above.

    iMPC Pro does send some kind of output (maybe it is to light up the pads on external controller?). But if you listen closely and press the pads while Animoog is loaded in the samplers IAA-Slot you will hear the Animoog notes triggered at low pitch even when the MPC-Midi is turned off and Midi recive channels turned off in Animoog so aparently some notes leak thru via iaa-midi. Maybe there are more apps than animoog that also recive data via iaa-midi even when core-midi switces are turned off...

  • Just tested with a few other apps and indeed when an app is connected to the iaa slot for recording sounds it continues to recive iaa-midi from iMPC Pro even when all other midi-inputs in the apps are disabled.

    To test this create a new blank project, go to program tab, select an empty pad, press the turntable and select inter-app as source. Select an inter app 'instrument', record a sound and press done. Now press any of the empty pads and the attached iaa-instrument will play a note... The MPC Midi in the preferences will select what notes are sent, with off all pads send same note with it on it sends MPC standard notes.

    Maybe midi-learn can be used to set the notes when MPC midi is turned off..

    Who knows, maybe we'll some day be able to sequence external apps using iMPC Pro :D

  • Can't believe this app still has no audiobus support ...

  • Forget audiobus why in hell does it not receive midi clock!!!

  • why doesn't iaa sampling work with animoog, it works with everything else?

  • waiting to hear from Adam at moog again, when I do I'll let you guys know what he says, I sure hope this can be resolved like the moog model 15 issue was squashed.

  • Yeah hopefully you can get back to enjoying iMPC PRO. I really love how the effects make the. Sound get huge. Also pretty cool how it samples really nice! If you use Modstep or infinite looper, you can sequence it by midi learning the pads to inf loopers keyboard and send velocity control to the pads.

    Hope you can get it working soon. Similar thing happens to me with Crystal synth. Everyone here could use dropbox with it, but as soon as I try, I get instacrash. So I just gave up. Got ZETA and Model 15! Dont need no mo!

  • thanks Tones, I love animoog. something about the app just gels with me in every way.

  • Hey, new Model 15 update available. Hope it fixes your issues.

  • my issues are with animoog

  • @kobamoto said:
    my issues are with animoog

    Maybe it's worth trying to get Retronyms and MoogMusic to communicate and actually fix this if it is such a huge issue...
    At least MoogMusic is quite active here and Retronyms has an account too so @ them with the requests...

    For me sampling Animoog in iMPC 'Pro' works on my iPad Air 2, iOS9.3.2. If they could just fix the input monitoring I might give iMPC Pro another shot.... I got a Line6 MobileIn for free last time I visited a music-shop and it works well with the 30-Pin to Lightning adaptor and granted me a free copy of Mobile Pod but without Input-Monitoring its mehhhh....

    I wish you Good luck and well the Animoog sampling/recording can be done i with other apps and Audiopasted into iMPC Pro but that's a workflowkiller...

  • yeah I've sent retronyms all the info, haven't heard from them, only heard from Adam at moog, they tried to work it out and were able to reproduce it. He said my iPad is underpowered. Thats where we're at right now.

  • @kobamoto said:
    yeah I've sent retronyms all the info, haven't heard from them, only heard from Adam at moog, they tried to work it out and were able to reproduce it. He said my iPad is underpowered. Thats where we're at right now.

    Ok, Good to know...

    Does IAA-Recording from Animoog work with your other apps that are more demanding than AUM and AudioShare?
    One 'workaround' naturally is to use the Animoog 'tape recorder'/'looper' and AudioCopy/Paste the sound into iMPC Pro as a temporary solution.

    Hopefully AudioCopy.app will evolve and in the future include an IAA-Recorder and well, Input-Monitoring :)
    (Input monitoring is really a no-brainer, attach an iRig Mic HD to the lightning port and headphones to the headphone jack and it should be possible to hear what is coming in thru the mic right???).

    Hope all this gets sorted out some day...

  • edited June 2016

    good luck to us :) ... although I'm a little encouraged since moog are involved. I know they are pretty busy but they've been really good trying to help figure this out, the only strange thing is that I was certain my iPad was powerful enough to run many more apps than just those two, actually I do without issues , it's just this little /huge problem... animoog does fine with iaa in other apps, as other apps more demanding than animoog do fine via iaa with the impc pro so this is really weird. iPad mini 4's are supposed to be able to handle stuff like this

  • I think you might wanna do a complete backup and try reinstalling IOS from scratch. Something is not clicking right but then again I would be nervous going that route too.

  • Ahhh the joys of iOS music production on full display

  • :s I'd be nervous about that too

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