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@sonosaurus great update!
Been sending arped and synced sequences to gadget all on my iPhone. Great stuff.
One niggle and one request:
when sending CCs on the x-axis (eg cc10 from pan) it seems like these are not smooth and continuous, but rather they seem to be quantised to the same quantisation as the arp. Would be better if it was able to send a smoother cc.
would be really nice to be able to tap in custom arp patterns at some point rather than just the standard 'up', 'down' etc.
Great update though. Lots of fun creating rythmic and synced midi out notes.
Yes, custom arps. I didn't have the heart to mention it as so much went into this release, but I was confident someone would fart in church. Well done Matt!
Does anyone notice that latency has gone up, just a little bit?
My guess:
Is the arp on? Ableton link?
I'm saying that because with the quantise on, you have to play slightly ahead to be on time to avoid the note to be quantized to the next beat ( depends on your settings), if you turn everything related to link and arp it should play like before(?)
Maybe I'm wrong(?)
In just talking about free styling like crazy. Just barely perceptible.
you have to place a little bit of tobacco over the ipad's self-facing camera hole, as an offering and request of low latency, before jamming.
The custom backgrounds has me excited
What audio output are you using, headphone/line out, external interface, or built in speaker? What instrument(s)? Audiobus active or not? So many variables can affect something like this, maximum info required!
I will check this out as an option while a finger is down and moving. The reason I don't do that is because for non channel per touch midi output (the most common case) I wanted the notes to be panned as part of the arpeggio (so each note will jump pan as the arp plays back) and not tied to an active finger.
Yeah, it was only a matter of time
I wanted to get some feedback on this first before embarking on more complicated arp features. So I gave you drop % to tide you over.
Settle down, Yngwie.
I'm guessing something went screwy and just started playing that loop at double-rate so the bass just sounded more like a mandolin! Or it was the mandolin track being played back stretched from the wrong tempo and something else happened to the bass loop?
Anyway, if it happens again try to see if you can figure out what you did similarly.
Cool I made it look like a haken continuum
All apps should have custom backgrounds.
memento mori on the level above human
Thanks. Really appreciate the prompt reply.
One last question: is it just cc10 I can send out via touch? I can't for the life of me work out how to send out any other cc parameter from Thumbjam.
Speakers after a fresh boot, no audiobus, or controller, etc.
Using built in speakers on devices from the last several years always adds a healthy (shitty) extra latency, thanks iOS! You can actually see it reported in TJ's Prefs->Options. With the same buffer size but having something plugged into the headphones or not you'll see the reported latency change. Which of course you can notice while playing too.
Well this is a superb update! I just saw the full list of those MIDI input controls . Wow
Love the arp too, so much good stuff here.
Let me say first thank you for this incredible update.
As I was messing with the app I found a bug I suppose (or its my fault ofc)
Looks like the arpegiator stop working after a short time. If I turn off and play I can hear everything. To be able to activate it again and work I need to restart the app.
While playing around with TJ today, the arpeggios and metronome got out of sync with each other a few times, pretty badly out of sync too. This was without Link turned on so TJ was getting out of sync with itself. Turning Link on and syncing TJ with DJ fixed the out-of-sync-ness. Around the same time that things were out of sync at one point the metronome stopped sounding, the icon lit up like the metronome was on but there was no audio. I'll try to replicate what caused it but it seems there is still something weird with the metronome.
Thanks for pointing out tap tempo is in the BPM display on the loop screen, it would be nice if tap tempo was on the main screen but I'm not sure where you'd put it.
Having whole and half note arp divisions would be more musically useful to me than some of the smaller divisions like 64th notes, which I'll rarely use. I didn't think I'd even use 32nd notes much but they worked great to get a fast latched tabla rhythm going, very cool!
Excellent update!!
Having lots of fun with the new update.
Unrelated to update but a simple bug in the help section (both app and Online) the Link to Session Record section is dead.
http://thumbjam.com/usersguide#sessrec
Would anybody be able to explain their steps for successfully using Session record.
My results are really unpredictable, occasionally I'll get a session recorded file to play back, other times the file will load but does not play, the green marker stays static at the beginning of that file.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: found the answer noted in message below.
I've realised that the way to do this is to toggle the Session Record via the Loop tab and to then use the stopwatch to start/stop recording.
My experiments in starting/stopping Session record by other means, i.e the main record button, turning off the toggle, were resulting in broken loops.
Can someone comment on this? I don't know enough about instrument samples.
A lot of the instruments(edit: string instruments) don't seem to sustain very long before they loop. There is an audible 'stitch' between the end of the sample and the beginning when notes are held, so you can hear it retriggering over and over. Just hold a single cello note for 20 secs to see what I'm talking about if I'm not being clear.
I guess this has to do with sample size(length of sustain?). And assume this is common and very difficult to match the attack to the end of the sustain for smooth transitions?
Is there terminology for this? Is this common? And what is the way around it?
thanks
@JohnnyGoodyear thanx for your comment you really made my day!!
And +1heart from here for this feature @sonosaurus
Nice sunday
In the example you mentioned (cello, violin, viola) I actually made the loop point intentionally at bowing direction changes, although many people don't agree with me about that. For other looped instruments there shouldn't be any audible breaks, I used a tool to prevent that when making the instruments. What other particular instruments are you referring to?
@sonosaurus that bug I mentioned earlier where Audioshare export was opening Echopad, was an Echopad problem (after an update), not TJ.
In real life, there are few instruments that can be played to produce a continuous sound - wind players have to take a breath, string players need to reverse the bowing direction, and percussive or plucked instruments have a finite length anyway. The mellotron tapes were limited to 8 secs for this kind of reason. And in normal playing, it is rare to hold a note longer than that.
Understandable. It was the strings, the pipe organ, and not sure if others. Maybe I shouldn't have said "a lot". Apologies, I was spending time with the strings I guess so should have said most of the String instruments. (I will change my post).
Would it be better to have the sample fade out rather than loop with an audible break? Just spit balling here. I think some of the other instruments do this, but not sure about overall advantages/disadvantages.
Again it's not a complaint just observation and was curious about it.
Maybe what you're really after would be more of a "synth strings" or "string section" type sound. I can see @sonosaurus point about breaking at the bow point for a realistic sound for a single string instrument.
+1