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Imaschine 2 or impc pro?

Which would you get?

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  • i would get impc pro, its a more all around app and its being getting some regular updates.

  • I've got both. Don't really use either much, but when I do I much prefer iMaschine

  • Neither. iSpark

  • iMPC is much more fully-featured but rather buggy at the moment (although Retronyms are at least being responsive to feedback) and the Link syncing is very poor. I'm thinking of getting iMaschine 2 as well - although past experience tells me to be wary of NI, their sound packs are certainly better than most - because I like the apparent simplicity of design and implementation. Although, perhaps it's too simplistic?

    iSpark, I would say, is one to avoid. Horrible presets, which wouldn't be an issue if importing samples and building kits was less cumbersome, and bugs aplenty. Much better fx than those in iMPC, it must be said. A lot of people like it, though, so Arturia must be doing something right.

  • Thanks for the responses.
    I feel better informed now :)

  • Considering the cost vs. benefit I would say get both. iMPC Pro is $12.99, iMaschine is $9.99. They both provide a lot of bang for the buck.

    The one key feature that iMaschine still lacks is support for external MIDI controllers. Native Instruments is still not budging on that because of their (irrational) fear that it might possibly affect Maschine Mikro sales.

  • Get both. iMaschine has Link, I think?

  • @studs1966 said:
    Get both. iMaschine has Link, I think?

    iMPC Pro has Link also, but it doesn't seem to work in phase properly at the moment. Hoping for a fix soon.

  • edited June 2016

    Imaschine2 is great if you have machine2 for your computer :smiley: It also has link, and never crashes. They just updated the computer DAW for free. I can finally mix and route audio creatively other than input-output. You can send machines clock, receive midi clock, and the sample mode has been given an upgrade. Think blocks waves on steroids. You can slice, chop, loop record, layer, add effects and modulations live while you slice up samples. You now can easily sample the internal master allowing you to do live effects processing. This will finally let you use studiomux or MusicIO within the daw much easier since you have a built in sampler with that option.The one on IOS is great, but I don't use it that often. If it had midi capabilities, it'd be on it 24/7 like machine is on my Mac. Playing with the app is fun. It is good for laying down some patterns you had in your head and exporting them to the computer. Then I can add my own kits and actually play the patterns with my own style. I need access to the kits that I have designed, or recorded as well. I am addicted to the internal signal chain with the analog tape distortion, and saturation, and all. The internal drum synthesis is very powerful as well. Don't get me started with retronyms... I don't trust them. :smiley:

  • So it > @sleepless said:

    @studs1966 said:
    Get both. iMaschine has Link, I think?

    iMPC Pro has Link also, but it doesn't seem to work in phase properly at the moment. Hoping for a fix soon.

    Would you "Adam & Eve it"........So it has........... Me apologies Guv'ner.........

  • not only does imaschine suck, but the desktop maschine sucks as well. impc pro is the way to go, also check what kind of device you're using it on as on my iPad mini 4 and iPad 3 it's flawless, but on an iPad pro it looks like they are having problems. if you want to change tempo in your songs or change time signature, or record pad mutes as well as track mutes then the choice is easy... impc pro, it has better automation, and better iaa implementation than the others and has it's own individual mixer per sequence which can be automated. also has realtime time stretching and transient detection..... at $12bucks it's a no brainer.

  • edited June 2016

    @kobamoto Maschine 2 DAW for Mac and PC is a beast what are you talking about?! Do you even own maschine 2 or just Maschine the original one? I guess everyone has a right to an opinion... If they own the product. They just updated it a few days ago as well. Like I said Imaschine is great if you have maschine 2 for your Mac or pc and run a nice setup. Not maschine, from 2011 that sucked. I own their first app AKAI MPC. I will not be getting the new one unless it goes on sale for two dollars.
    @Dham that's an interesting point of view, but why would that affect their sales on that specific item? I can bet they are just holding out to make a third version iOS hybrid like AKAI has done with that docking pad.

  • edited June 2016

    I've owned Maschine since 2 weeks before it was released many moons ago.... It's been a travesty right up to the complete rewrite before 2.0 and since then.

  • @kobamoto I have expressed actual concerns as to why I never liked ReTronyms in previous threads. I chose not to express them again. It seems you are choosing to just take the grumpy road and not say why you think one of the most intuitive hybrid daws out there is a travesty? I never expected to be able to perform sound design techniques used in actual modules you'd assemble in an analog rack. I'm guessing you didn't take the dive and read the manual for how machine operates? A lot of people I know own it and use it like a big toy that lights up with a step mode. Which it never had at launch I had it and it was modeled as a hybrid MPC daw. It Barely had anything but a piano roll. I'm beginning to suspect you are merely playing devils advocate. Tell me one thing that "sux" about the latest version of maschine that was just released?

  • i don't want to really bash the apps, just being honest of my view but no reason for me to harp on it, besides music is so subjective that Imaschine and maschine desktop might just hit the spot for someone else.... like I said I've used it since it came out and I've even taught classes in it, it has very weak midi implementation and it's current forte is in making loops rather than full compositions. The last update added a few bells and whistles but ni has allot more to worry about than the lazy chop they added and the minor scenes update they implemented, even they stated they're in the stop gap stage..... they intend to roll out many more updates within the next year to hopefully get it up to speed. Right now most users would consider it a great update if it just rolled back to 1.8

  • edited June 2016

    To people who do not own third party developers kontakt scripts maybe I can see what you are getting at. I still think it improved my old orange mikro by adding the komplete control. If you are a only a beat maker and down purchase anything but the pad and machine I see the problem, but I have learned to love the internal modules. Never have been a loop guy but I was blessed with fast reflexes and very quick, and precise with my hands. (My girlfriends have all agreed) :D. I am a composer, so once I record the "loop" I recorded( I call riff)from the Korg krome I find the live slicing usefull for very subtle added character to tracks. I then upload to kontakt with added scripts in Gravity which is incredible. Hardly a travesty :)

  • you're talking about kontakt and korg, that's the problem with maschine.

  • it's like saying all of these apps have great audio editing and file management because audioshare does.... but they don't and it sucks, Audioshare on the other hand is quite nice.

  • I've got both. Don't really use either much, but when I do I much prefer iMaschine > @TheMaestro said:

    @kobamoto Maschine 2 DAW for Mac and PC is a beast what are you talking about?! Do you even own maschine 2 or just Maschine the original one? I guess everyone has a right to an opinion... If they own the product. They just updated it a few days ago as well. Like I said Imaschine is great if you have maschine 2 for your Mac or pc and run a nice setup. Not maschine, from 2011 that sucked. I own their first app AKAI MPC. I will not be getting the new one unless it goes on sale for two dollars.
    @Dham that's an interesting point of view, but why would that affect their sales on that specific item? I can bet they are just holding out to make a third version iOS hybrid like AKAI has done with that docking pad.

    I've got Maschine on my PC and it's superb. Run it as a plugin in Logic too - best music software I've ever bought.

  • until you run it without logic....

  • @kobamoto said:
    until you run it without logic....

    I ran it for two years without Logic, it's brilliant. As a used of Live, Reason etc. I found it a joy to use. I don't understand why you have a problem with it.

  • I'm just looking forward to the improvements Ni feels it needs, if it gets into the shape they say they hope to make it I'll be very satisfied with it

  • edited June 2016

    I have used it as an AU, standalone, any which way it's perfectly fine DAW. It had its rough spots in the initial launch in 2010 that's about it... You have to know how to apply the signal chain in a proper fashion or it'll run up the processor. Just by you saying "oh until you run it outside of an AU" shows me you don't know what machine was struggling with. Creative routing , audio preferences, with midi clock send and receive, bi directional, fixed where some machines had issues running it as an AU. Running it as an AU takes up more ram which would reduce performance if you aren't properly mixing. I personally never have had issues with it. Kontakt is NI. It comes with NI and people are free to distribute their own third party packaging of samples scripted with kontakt. Quit playing devils advocate lol.

  • edited June 2016

    I never said anything about running it as an Au, what are you talking about?
    and it's not a daw, else you wouldn't need to run it in a daw.
    why do you guys keep talking about everything but maschine, those other apps are great, just off topic.

  • I can't chip in with a quote from the Maestro episode of Seinfeld as I don't have any memorized, but hopefully I would have come up with one that stayed somewhat relevant.

  • MASCHINE 2 audio unit look it up Jesus man. It's a full fledged audio unit in the newest maschine. Plus finally someone gets my name. Jerry you upset the maestro!

  • edited June 2016

    Not on iOS. You claimed all this fuckery how you taught a course on it. Well it runs as an audio unit plug in on Mac OS X. That's what carol was saying.

  • you're not paying attention, The reason why I asked you what you are talking about is not because I don't know what an audio unit is, it's because I never brought it up in this thread...prior to asking you what you are talking about?

  • this thread is still fairly short, you can read through my post if you like, whomever you were having an audio units discussion with wasn't me.

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