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HELP! Going away tomorrow - need to decide on a DAW TONIGHT!

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  • @Jez_Wright said:
    Yeah guys your suspicions have been confirmed - It's recommended that you run Auria Pro on an iPad 4 or later (twice the processing power of my ickle iPad mini)

    So by process of elimination I've gone with... dum dum dummmmm... Cubasis!!!

    Thanks so much for your help guys :smiley: !!!!

    Next up, packing... :dizzy:

    @AudioGus don't suppose he's flying from London Gatwick to Ho Chi Minh City?

    Hope you like Cuasis as much as I do. You made a great choice and you will be making music easily in no time with this. Very easy to work with and a really nice friendly interface also.

  • It's not a question just of personal preference, period. Auria Pro is the only fully featured DAW on iOS. It's the absolute only complete solution for iOS, capable of doing all production steps, from songwriting to mastering. It has pro-grade built-in FXs, advanced routing, advanced exporting, advanced editing tools and access to the best plug-ins in the market (not only on iOS!) via IAP.

    If you are a professional that by any particular reason is switching to an iOS-only environment, Auria Pro is not the best solution indeed. It's the only one. Who tells otherwise, sorry, doesn't know what he is talking about very much.

    I won't even address the "friendly UI" nonsense: that would be a factor if the feature set was on pair.

    Of course, if the intention is doing most of heavy lifting on a Desktop DAW, or even working only with MIDI on the iPad and then export to a Desktop DAW to add audio tracks, Cubasis could be a reasonable choice. But then again, Gadget would be far better for MIDI tasks and has superior built-in instruments, and Garageband iOS+LPX make for almost an unbeatable (including the price) combo.

    Conversely, Auria Pro needs power, and the TS doesn't have an iPad with enough CPU power for it to run smootly (gosh, sometimes even my Air 1 gets stymied), so the point is moot. But it still think MTS would have been a better deal, because it's a better priced, better featured and better supported app.

    To each his own, as always. I can't help thinking Cubasis for the same price of AP is a plain simple rip off anyway.

    All the best!

  • @theconnactic

    I have to disagree here - it does come down to personal preference. I've seen this argument many times before, 'DAW X is so much better than DAW Y'. Ultimately if one appeals ( for all manner of reasons), then that's the one to work with.

    Out of interest, in what ways do you think Cubasis is lacking - not in comparison to AP, but in itself ?

  • A decent piano roll. Advanced mixing tools (routing, bussing, subgrouping etc). Pro effects (AU might supply this in the future, but for now it's just a promise). Decent instruments (the built-in ones are lackluster and even GB has better ones). Advanced audio editing. Audio warp tools (audio quantizing, transient detection, time strech). Advanced MIDI tools. Advanced tempo tools (multiple time signatures and tempos in one song). Advanced exporting tools. A pitch shifter. A vocal tuning correction. Advanced audio processing tools.

    I might be forgetting something. And yes, Auria Pro has it all.

  • In fact, regular (non pro) Auria coupled with a decent MIDI sequencer (say, Genome) would be a more potent solution than Cubasis (and mostly anything else for that matter) for an iOS-only production environment.

  • edited June 2016

    I'm sure not everyone needs all the 'advanced' features of which you speak, I would imagine what Cubasis has is working fine for them.

    I'm finding it difficult to adapt to Cubasis and Auria Pro, but thats because iOS makes everything difficult in terms of file management and things I can do really easily on the desktop aren't so straightforward on iOS.

  • This I'd agree, absolutely - the same way that many people don't need the advanced features of Photoshop or Gimp, and Wondershare (for example) would be more than enough. Or, to stay closer to our field, many people are satisfied enough with Garageband to not to bother with Logic Pro X. The kind of people that need (not simply want: need!) PS, Gimp or LPX are the same that need Auria Pro.

    That's precisely my point: Auria Pro and pretty much any other DAW in iOS don't belong in thr same category. Anyone can use any of them, but the target user base is not the same. And they should not cost the same (but to be fair, the full AP suite with all plug-ins is north of $300).

  • P.S.: I agree fully about iOS shortcomings, specially file management. It's frustrating, specially now that they advertise pro iOS devices. Hope iOS10 address some of this, @Igneous1!

  • @theconnactic said:
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    If AP ran as fast and smooth as Cubasis on my Mini2 then I would use it more often than Cubasis. For basic stuff while on the go (train, walking etc) I find Cubasis has fewer taps and bigger buttons so it is handy that way. When i am just seated at a desk or on the couch with my Air then hellzyah AP wins.

    Always tempted to try MTS... why pick? Use em all!

  • Sorry peeps, you forgot Sunvox. Argument settled.

  • @sleepless said:

    Obviously, if you're reliant on AU extensions, Cubasis wins out, although the implementation is a little wonky imo.

    That's what did it for me. And it seems that even though Auria may eventually get AU its doing so somewhat begrudingly.

  • @theconnactic said:
    ...Advanced mixing tools (routing, bussing, subgrouping etc). Pro effects (AU might supply this in the future, but for now it's just a promise). Decent instruments (the built-in ones are lackluster and even GB has better ones). Advanced audio editing. Audio warp tools (audio quantizing, transient detection, time strech). Advanced MIDI tools. Advanced tempo tools (multiple time signatures and tempos in one song). Advanced exporting tools. A pitch shifter. A vocal tuning correction. Advanced audio processing tools...

    None of which are really necessary on iOS, or even a desktop DAW for that matter. Could even be said that these are crutches and not features.

    Being able to record directly into the Sampler in Cubasis via IAA goes a long way on iOS, as does having effects without the minuscule controls on the Fabfilter effects in Auria.

    Cubasis seems to have embraced being on the iPad platform and iOS operating system, while Auria feels like a desktop DAW squeezed onto the iPad.

  • None are necessary for you. :)

  • Yeah, nobody really needs advanced tools. Hear that developers? Just give us shiny new stuff that feels good. :D

  • Lol! The things we read... :D

  • @AudioGus said:

    @theconnactic said:
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    If AP ran as fast and smooth as Cubasis on my Mini2 then I would use it more often than Cubasis. For basic stuff while on the go (train, walking etc) I find Cubasis has fewer taps and bigger buttons so it is handy that way. When i am just seated at a desk or on the couch with my Air then hellzyah AP wins.

    Always tempted to try MTS... why pick? Use em all!

    Yep once Auria Pro performance matches Cubasis I'll re-consider it. But for right now if I need power features that Cubasis doesn't supply, then it's straight Logic Pro on the Mac. Cubasis even outperforms GB under heavy AU loads.

    AP could become the Logic of iPad, but it must embrace AU in an enthusiastic way and dramatically improve the performance.

    Even Steinberg, the inventors of VST which became the defacto plugin standard on the desktop has the tactical vision to see this. That's why they'll win again.

  • @theconnactic said:
    In fact, regular (non pro) Auria coupled with a decent MIDI sequencer (say, Genome) would be a more potent solution than Cubasis (and mostly anything else for that matter) for an iOS-only production environment.

    Yep, it did not occur to me, but it's sensible

  • edited July 2016

    ...

    If you are a professional that by any particular reason is switching to an iOS-only environment, Auria Pro is not the best solution indeed. It's the only one. Who tells otherwise, sorry, doesn't know what he is talking about very much.

    I won't even address the "friendly UI" nonsense: that would be a factor if the feature set was on pair.

    ...

    That's true. For the features implemented, Auria Pro leaves Cubasis behind a long shot.
    However, I would not skip over the UI question so lightly. One of the causes I stopped using Auria Pro is this one precisely. It repeatedly and often happened to me that the tracks' editing ceases to respond, and starts again after an unpredictable delay (many secs!). Moreover, the interface of the EFX is really outdated. Those puny controls are difficult to tweak, with no clear to the eye visual feedback and (in my experience), a delay that makes real time regulation really a pain to do. There is other, but let these ones be enough as examples.
    Consider that I run it on a 12" pro and am very careful not to clutter the RAM with unused apps. Nor I think to be more clumsy than the average, I have not these kind of problems with other apps.
    All in all, I tend to agree with 1P18 above : "Auria feels like a desktop DAW squeezed onto the iPad". Now, if you must or absolutely want to stay on the iPad only, by all means go for Auria and abide. Else, go for a combination of more iPad friendly apps and use a full fledged desktop DAW

  • @sirdavidabraham said:
    Cubasis even outperforms GB under heavy AU loads.

    This is anedoctal. I've seen this told otherwise. If I was to settle down with the iPad+Desktop workflow, I'd by all means choose GB+Logic Pro X. But I need to be able to do all the steps on the iPad, from songwriting to mastering. Auria Pro can provide it. Cubasis can not. ;)

    Least but not last, AU will be a need for Auria users when thw effects and instruments are at least onnpair with the ones in the Auria store. They are not, specially the FX - I'm a huge fan of iSem though.

    All the best!!

  • @sirdavidabraham said:
    And it seems that even though Auria may eventually get AU its doing so somewhat begrudingly.

    I think it's simply that features take time to implement, I'm certain AU will come to Auria. Since the launch of AP Rim has mostly been concentrating on bug fixes. I'm sure he'd rather be adding sexing new features such as AU though.

  • edited July 2016

    @theconnactic said:
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    Least but not last, AU will be a need for Auria users when thw effects and instruments are at least onnpair with the ones in the Auria store. They are not, specially the FX - I'm a huge fan of iSem though.

    All the best!!

    Possibly, I'm just saying that Auria is following here, not leading... Steinberg hatches chickens, Auria waits for eggs ;)

  • edited July 2016

    @sirdavidabraham said:

    @theconnactic said:
    >
    Least but not last, AU will be a need for Auria users when thw effects and instruments are at least onnpair with the ones in the Auria store. They are not, specially the FX - I'm a huge fan of iSem though.

    All the best!!

    Possibly, I'm just saying that Auria is following here, not leading... Steinberg hatches chickens, Auria waits for eggs ;)

    Lol! That's your way to see things, using AU support as the parameter (and then again, Garageband would be the one hatches chickens). I think it's quite the opposite: Auria Pro set the standard, and all the others are following the way they can.

    All the best!

  • edited July 2016

    @theconnactic said:

    Lol! That's your way to see things, using AU support as the standard (and then again, Garageband would be the one hatches chickens). I think it's quite the opposite: Auria Pro set the standard, and all the others are following the way they can.

    All the best!

    Actually if I remember correctly Cubasis hosted AU before GarageBand. That was a shocker for moi, and even now GarageBand does only AU instruments, not AU effects. Unacceptable!! :D

    I actually like GB's compositional workflow.. But every few minutes when using AU it pauses saying "optimizing..." Whereas Cubasis keeps trucking and trucking.

    Cubasis owns AU now lol

  • I don't even have that many AU apps, and in AP, don't much miss the ones I do. There are way more important features to me.

    I've never used Cubasis, so I'm not commenting on it.

  • @theconnactic : you are SO right. I was ready to buy a laptop but decided on a 12.9 iPad Pro on the basis of Auria pro and never looked back..

  • I still have my powerful i7 Desktop machine that is still my main workhorse for heavily orchestrated music, but for pretty much everything else I use Auria Pro+iPad Air+Apogee One (and sometimes Duet), @telstar5: my pro studio on the go. Without Auria Pro, I'd still have to rely on my wife's MacBookPro.

  • @lovadamusic said:
    There are way more important features to me.

    Now I'm curious: each ones?

  • As for myself, hail to OverloudTHM - it deserves more love than it gets. Most don't believe I didn't use a Lead900 for the guitars of my latest song:

  • @theconnactic said:
    ...Advanced mixing tools (routing, bussing, subgrouping etc). Pro effects (AU might supply this in the future, but for now it's just a promise). Decent instruments (the built-in ones are lackluster and even GB has better ones). Advanced audio editing. Audio warp tools (audio quantizing, transient detection, time strech). Advanced MIDI tools. Advanced tempo tools (multiple time signatures and tempos in one song). Advanced exporting tools. A pitch shifter. A vocal tuning correction. Advanced audio processing tools...

    None of which are really all that necessary on iOS, or even a desktop DAW for that matter.

    Recording via IAA straight into the Cubasis Sampler goes a long way on iOS, as does having effects without the minuscule controls you find with the Fabfilter effects in Auria.

    Cubasis seems to grasp the concept of the iPad platform and iOS operating system, while Auria feels like a desktop DAW that was squeezed onto iOS.

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