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So I was going to buy the new gadgets but....

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  • edited July 2016

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    So I have some questions.

    • Does TNR-e have midi clock sync?

    • Can you sequence a couple of different apps on different midi channels (or different ports?).

    • can you lock to scale/key

    I'm looking for a sequencing solution on iPhone that's 'better' or 'easier' than Xynthersizer (only one pattern really) or Infinite Looper (nice but the piano roll is awkward).

    This is for TNRe only:

    I am able to sequence different apps on different layers via IAA (the apps need to be on different channels, but TNRe doesn't have assignable midi channels as such- )

    Scales are lockable

    Clock sync

  • @Littlewoodg said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    So I have some questions.

    • Does TNR-e have midi clock sync?

    • Can you sequence a couple of different apps on different midi channels (or different ports?).

    • can you lock to scale/key

    I'm looking for a sequencing solution on iPhone that's 'better' or 'easier' than Xynthersizer (only one pattern really) or Infinite Looper (nice but the piano roll is awkward).

    This is for TNRe only:

    I am able to sequence different apps on different layers via IAA (the apps need to be on different channels, but TNRe doesn't have assignable midi channels as such- )

    Scales are lockable

    Clock sync

    Brilliant. Thanks.

  • @db909 said:
    from my brief time with it, I have not messed with midi clock sync, but it appears to be there with options like master/slave. It sends midi out on channels 1-16 corresponding to the layers within each section/block. You'd have to keep the same instruments mappings for each section though as switching things around seems like it would be messy. There are other quirks like if you change the play mode of a layer, it goes back to the default instrument, so some setup is required. You can lock scales and create your own. You don't choose a root note like other apps, just transpose the master by semitones. I'm liking it but there is a learning curve and the menu/file system is somewhat convoluted. Manual reading required.

    Thank you.

    Yes I have it. But never 'got' it.

    But playing just now it seems good. If quirky.

  • edited July 2016

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000
    Pleasure is mine, enjoy?
    (I have put it back on my iPhone after a long hiatus, might be fun)

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    @Matt_Fletcher_2000
    Pleasure is mine, enjoy?
    (I have put it back on my iPhone after a long hiatus, might be fun)

    I presume it doesn't send any midi CCs?

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @Littlewoodg said:
    @Matt_Fletcher_2000
    Pleasure is mine, enjoy?
    (I have put it back on my iPhone after a long hiatus, might be fun)

    I presume it doesn't send any midi CCs?

    I can't find anything inapp re CC sends

  • @Redo1 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @db909 said:
    I'm liking it but there is a learning curve and the menu/file system is somewhat convoluted. Manual reading required.

    Mirrors my own experience.

    And same here. I've had tnr-i for a long time and had fun with it at first, but always found it difficult/time consuming to put together longer pieces. Especially in comparison to something like gadget.

    Yah for me it is all about feeding the midi output into a PC Daw and then editing it there.

  • It's sort of very cool. Mixed with being a bit shit.

    Loading multiple apps into AUM (on an iPhone) then sequencing then all is pretty great.

    And the possibilities of the different play modes are great.

    But is the UI really functional for live play?

  • @syrupcore I need you!

    Have you used TNR-e?

    It's basically 16 beat steps on your iPhone? No?

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    It's sort of very cool. Mixed with being a bit shit.

    Loading multiple apps into AUM (on an iPhone) then sequencing then all is pretty great.

    And the possibilities of the different play modes are great.

    But is the UI really functional for live play?

    I find it a very functional happy accident /sketching machine. the hardware version is better though with the real buttons and the physical dial but the app works well enough at a fraction the price.

  • It's confusing but awkward> @AudioGus said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    It's sort of very cool. Mixed with being a bit shit.

    Loading multiple apps into AUM (on an iPhone) then sequencing then all is pretty great.

    And the possibilities of the different play modes are great.

    But is the UI really functional for live play?

    I find it a very functional happy accident /sketching machine. the hardware version is better though with the real buttons and the physical dial but the app works well enough at a fraction the price.

    Agreed. I need to jump into it more often.

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    @syrupcore I need you!

    Have you used TNR-e?

    It's basically 16 beat steps on your iPhone? No?

    I've never really looked into. I believe that the good and honorable @JohnnyGoodyear is a fan though.

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    It's sort of very cool. Mixed with being a bit shit.

    Loading multiple apps into AUM (on an iPhone) then sequencing then all is pretty great.

    And the possibilities of the different play modes are great.

    But is the UI really functional for live play?

    There are some funny games available for live play, loop length adjustments, randomizers, the fx in TNRe are all about live play...

  • @syrupcore said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    @syrupcore I need you!

    Have you used TNR-e?

    It's basically 16 beat steps on your iPhone? No?

    I've never really looked into. I believe that the good and honorable @JohnnyGoodyear is a fan though.

    I am a fan, but I don't play live. I think the -e could be good in the ways that @Littlewoodg suggests, but it would take some mastering. The reality is that I agree with @AudioGus as regards it being useful for fishing for HAM, but it feels as though it hasn't developed/kept up with the times, especially as regards the somewhat antediluvian menu system....

  • edited July 2016

    Did some reading of the manual last eve, was reminded that Tenori-on was born to be a live tool, and that many of the menu functions: the accessing, filing and editing of layers, blocks etc, are actually redundancies of the live way to do those very things, using the main screen and multi-touch.

    Having had the app since the first version, I had no idea that there were 2 ways to do almost everything in the app, (changing loop speed, loop points, voices, note length, tempo, selecting and cueing layers and blocks, copy/paste of layers and blocks, etc) and that the main screen, multi-touch methods are all slick enough to be done live, onstage, (in other words in the dark, and on-the-fly, in front of paying customers) (the menu system method for all these functions including the song-building ones is the back-up.)

    I tried building a User instrument as well (this, like some set up functions, takes the menu route). Integration with AudioCopy (I'm using the app, have sample packs) was workable after an initial howdy-do dance that AC does with any app when it first links up. If you don't have AC it's one sample at a time, copy to board, paste from board, the old "intua" copy/paste...there's a basic sample editor inapp.

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    Having had the app since the first version, I had no idea that there were 2 ways to do almost everything in the app, (changing loop speed, loop points, voices, note length, tempo, selecting and cueing layers and blocks, copy/paste of layers and blocks, etc) .....

    goes back to the beginning and starts again...

  • edited July 2016

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @Littlewoodg said:
    Having had the app since the first version, I had no idea that there were 2 ways to do almost everything in the app, (changing loop speed, loop points, voices, note length, tempo, selecting and cueing layers and blocks, copy/paste of layers and blocks, etc) .....

    goes back to the beginning and starts again...

    hehe, one nice thing to the Tenori's credit is once you learn the interface it really does stick with you. Like riding a bike. I once didn't use it for a couple years and when I picked it up again within a couple minutes it was all there.

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    Did some reading of the manual last eve, was reminded that Tenori-on was born to be a live tool, and that many of the menu functions: the accessing, filing and editing of layers, blocks etc, are actually redundancies of the live way to do those very things, using the main screen and multi-touch.

    Having had the app since the first version, I had no idea that there were 2 ways to do almost everything in the app, (changing loop speed, loop points, voices, note length, tempo, selecting and cueing layers and blocks, copy/paste of layers and blocks, etc) and that the main screen, multi-touch methods are all slick enough to be done live, onstage, (in other words in the dark, and on-the-fly, in front of paying customers) (the menu system method for all these functions including the song-building ones is the back-up.)

    I tried building a User instrument as well (this, like some set up functions, takes the menu route). Integration with AudioCopy (I'm using the app, have sample packs) was workable after an initial howdy-do dance that AC does with any app when it first links up. If you don't have AC it's one sample at a time, copy to board, paste from board, the old "intua" copy/paste...there's a basic sample editor inapp.

    Cool. Thanks. I have just put the manual in iBooks :).

    Unfortunately I can't see a way to:

    • mute a layer
    • Reset the loop (presume this makes the loop run back in time with all other layers after you have finished messing with the loop points)

    from the UI. Seems you need to dive into the menus to do either of the above. Which is a shame because I think both would be very handy for live play.

    Anyone know of any good videos of jamming with it?

  • edited July 2016

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    Cool. Thanks. I have just put the manual in iBooks :).

    Unfortunately I can't see a way to:

    • mute a layer
    • Reset the loop (presume this makes the loop run back in time with all other layers after you have finished messing with the loop points)

    from the UI. Seems you need to dive into the menus to do either of the above. Which is a shame because I think both would be very handy for live play.

    Anyone know of any good videos of jamming with it?

    There's a main screen way to deal with volume of each layer individually (R4) which lowers/raises volume, or mutes instantly per layer, when you touch the row # corresponding to your layer, mute by touching all the way to the left or shift volume live with a left/right slide (this works like the rest of the main screen control functions: hold a L or R button with one finger and make selections on the 16x16 grid with the other...)
    As for individual loop reset, I'm still looking... Are you hoping to offset start/stop per layer, or?

    There's lots to be done with timing and live soloing in the non-score layers...crazy stuff!

  • edited July 2016

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    Cool. Thanks. I have just put the manual in iBooks :).

    Unfortunately I can't see a way to:

    • mute a layer
    • Reset the loop (presume this makes the loop run back in time with all other layers after you have finished messing with the loop points)

    from the UI. Seems you need to dive into the menus to do either of the above. Which is a shame because I think both would be very handy for live play.

    Anyone know of any good videos of jamming with it?

    There's a main screen way to deal with volume of each layer individually (R4) which lowers/raises volume, or mutes instantly per layer, when you touch the row # corresponding to your layer, mute by touching all the way to the left or shift volume live with a left/right slide (this works like the rest of the main screen control functions: hold a L or R button with one finger and make selections on the 16x16 grid with the other...)
    As for individual loop reset, I'm still looking... Are you hoping to offset start/stop per layer, or?

    There's lots to be done with timing and live soloing in the non-score layers...crazy stuff

    Thanks, but actually I'm planning to use it exclusively for midi out madness. So I don't think the volume has any effect on the midi sent out (so I couldn't use volume to mute certain layers).

    The bit about loop reset was that I thought I could use start/stop loop points to 'glitch' into a certain pattern and vary it - but then after a few bars doing that, have it return back to its exact previous state with the full 16 steps running in sync with everything else. Because otherwise it's likely to be offset when I reuturn back to the full 16 steps. Which is what I don't want. (If you see what I mean).

    And yes. The 'solo' mode is pretty cool. I could see that being great sending midi to drums.

  • edited July 2016

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    Thanks, but actually I'm planning to use it exclusively for midi out madness. So I don't think the volume has any effect on the midi sent out (so I couldn't use volume to mute certain layers).

    The bit about loop reset was that I thought I could use start/stop loop points to 'glitch' into a certain pattern and vary it - but then after a few bars doing that, have it return back to its exact previous state with the full 16 steps running in sync with everything else. Because otherwise it's likely to be offset when I reuturn back to the full 16 steps. Which is what I don't want. (If you see what I mean).

    And yes. The 'solo' mode is pretty cool. I could see that being great sending midi to drums.

    I see, using the thing as midi controller - For midi out you uses, you can use the "Clear" button to deactivate all the notes of the layer - maybe a "copy layer, Clear layer, paste layer" move, live.

    Or preset an entire separate block. And jump there live. The glitchy bit might be a similar thing, preset a jam layer like in Solo or Draw mode, and a have score layer with the set version of the pattern standing by. Or a pair of Draw or Solo layers to bounce between. Interesting logistical puzzles.

  • @Littlewoodg said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    Thanks, but actually I'm planning to use it exclusively for midi out madness. So I don't think the volume has any effect on the midi sent out (so I couldn't use volume to mute certain layers).

    The bit about loop reset was that I thought I could use start/stop loop points to 'glitch' into a certain pattern and vary it - but then after a few bars doing that, have it return back to its exact previous state with the full 16 steps running in sync with everything else. Because otherwise it's likely to be offset when I reuturn back to the full 16 steps. Which is what I don't want. (If you see what I mean).

    And yes. The 'solo' mode is pretty cool. I could see that being great sending midi to drums.

    I see, using the thing as midi controller - For midi out you uses, you can use the "Clear" button to deactivate all the notes of the layer - maybe a "copy layer, Clear layer, paste layer" move, live.

    Or preset an entire separate block. And jump there live. The glitchy bit might be a similar thing, preset a jam layer like in Solo or Draw mode, and a have score layer with the set version of the pattern standing by. Or a pair of Draw or Solo layers to bounce between. Interesting logistical puzzles.

    Thanks.

    I am right in thinking though, that if you change to another block then every single layer changes block doesn't it?

    So use a blank block to mute one instrument isn't that great an option.

    But I love the copy, clear, paste idea. That'd do it nicely.

  • edited July 2016

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    Thanks, but actually I'm planning to use it exclusively for midi out madness. So I don't think the volume has any effect on the midi sent out (so I couldn't use volume to mute certain layers).

    The bit about loop reset was that I thought I could use start/stop loop points to 'glitch' into a certain pattern and vary it - but then after a few bars doing that, have it return back to its exact previous state with the full 16 steps running in sync with everything else. Because otherwise it's likely to be offset when I reuturn back to the full 16 steps. Which is what I don't want. (If you see what I mean).

    And yes. The 'solo' mode is pretty cool. I could see that being great sending midi to drums.

    I see, using the thing as midi controller - For midi out you uses, you can use the "Clear" button to deactivate all the notes of the layer - maybe a "copy layer, Clear layer, paste layer" move, live.

    Or preset an entire separate block. And jump there live. The glitchy bit might be a similar thing, preset a jam layer like in Solo or Draw mode, and a have score layer with the set version of the pattern standing by. Or a pair of Draw or Solo layers to bounce between. Interesting logistical puzzles.

    Thanks.

    I am right in thinking though, that if you change to another block then every single layer changes block doesn't it?

    So use a blank block to mute one instrument isn't that great an option.

    But I love the copy, clear, paste idea. That'd do it nicely.

    I guess I was thinking the second block was a full duplicate of the first (it's 3-4 touches and the block of up to 16 tracks are copied, same effort to copy/paste/select a layer as a block. Big stuff happening conceptually but quick as a wink in practice.) They talk about using blocks in the manual this way, build the block of up to 16 tracks, make few quick copies of the block and put variations into each (maybe just one slightly different layer), pop between them live quick as a wink

  • @Littlewoodg said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    Thanks, but actually I'm planning to use it exclusively for midi out madness. So I don't think the volume has any effect on the midi sent out (so I couldn't use volume to mute certain layers).

    The bit about loop reset was that I thought I could use start/stop loop points to 'glitch' into a certain pattern and vary it - but then after a few bars doing that, have it return back to its exact previous state with the full 16 steps running in sync with everything else. Because otherwise it's likely to be offset when I reuturn back to the full 16 steps. Which is what I don't want. (If you see what I mean).

    And yes. The 'solo' mode is pretty cool. I could see that being great sending midi to drums.

    I see, using the thing as midi controller - For midi out you uses, you can use the "Clear" button to deactivate all the notes of the layer - maybe a "copy layer, Clear layer, paste layer" move, live.

    Or preset an entire separate block. And jump there live. The glitchy bit might be a similar thing, preset a jam layer like in Solo or Draw mode, and a have score layer with the set version of the pattern standing by. Or a pair of Draw or Solo layers to bounce between. Interesting logistical puzzles.

    Thanks.

    I am right in thinking though, that if you change to another block then every single layer changes block doesn't it?

    So use a blank block to mute one instrument isn't that great an option.

    But I love the copy, clear, paste idea. That'd do it nicely.

    I guess I was thinking the second block was a full duplicate of the first (it's 3-4 touches and the block of up to 16 tracks are copied, same effort to copy/paste/select a layer as a block. Big stuff happening conceptually but quick as a wink in practice.) They talk about using blocks in the manual this way, build the block of up to 16 tracks, make few quick copies of the block and put variations into each (maybe just one slightly different layer), pop between them live quick as a wink

    Ok. Cool. Thanks. Probably that's the way to go then.

    Do you know if you can cue block changes up so it only changes blocks at the end of a sequence? (Ie quantized). My timing might be a problem otherwise!

  • edited July 2016

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000
    Probably have an answer for the quantize block function by the end of bidniz today...will keep you posted.
    This one has me going a bit deeper. Funny: the TNRe manual has asterisks next to a score of items, and directs the user to see the manual from the original (hardware) Tenori-on for more details. Stuff like "timing" "quantize" and a few other choice elements have an asterisk, of course.

    Following the link takes you to Yamahas product page for the TNR apps, apparent dead end, same manuals...

    but Yamaha, being a friendly (industrial) giant has left a trail to the sought documentation for the hardware originals via a "discontinued product" link. Turns out the manual for the TNR apps is equivalent to the Tenori's Quick Guide - 30 pgs or so.

    The actual guide, for full functionality of the hardware (and the app, with only a few differences) is 123 pgs. So I'm looking there, for answers now.
    http://download.yamaha.com/search/product/?language=en&site=usa.yamaha.com&category_id=16473&product_id=1054740
    Copy pasting a direct link here to pdf didn't work, so this is a link to a list of Tenori "assets": firmware, software, and all documents. Jason Bourne's likely listed as well, under a code name.

    Thanks to OP @db909, this is all kinds of fun, the app is opening up to me in new ways, but also I do like a research project.

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    @Matt_Fletcher_2000
    Probably have an answer for the quantize block function by the end of bidniz today...will keep you posted.
    This one has me going a bit deeper. Funny: the TNRe manual has asterisks next to a score of items, and directs the user to see the manual from the original (hardware) Tenori-on for more details. Stuff like "timing" "quantize" and a few other choice elements have an asterisk, of course.

    Following the link takes you to Yamahas product page for the TNR apps, apparent dead end, same manuals...

    but Yamaha, being a friendly (industrial) giant has left a trail to the sought documentation for the hardware originals via a "discontinued product" link. Turns out the manual for the TNR apps is equivalent to the Tenori's Quick Guide - 30 pgs or so.

    The actual guide, for full functionality of the hardware (and the app, with only a few differences) is 123 pgs. So I'm looking there, for answers now.
    http://download.yamaha.com/search/product/?language=en&site=usa.yamaha.com&category_id=16473&product_id=1054740
    Copy pasting a direct link here to pdf didn't work, so this is a link to a list of Tenori "assets": firmware, software, and all documents. Jason Bourne's likely listed as well, under a code name.

    Thanks to OP @db909, this is all kinds of fun, the app is opening up to me in new ways, but also I do like a research project.

    Doctor Sleuth!

  • @Littlewoodg thank YOU sir for finding that manual! I'll be giving that a read for sure. By the way, in case it hasn't been mentioned, if you want 4 bar loops, set the master and layer loop speeds to the "1" setting and use draw mode to record your phrases. That's my favorite part by far.

  • edited July 2016

    Been looking around at synths on the devices that are set up in portrait mode to ease the back and forth when tweaking between TNRe and sequenced instruments - Thumbjam, Model 15, KQsynth, Modular, and Yamahas very own Synth Book (!) all fit the bill...

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    Been looking around at synths on the devices that are set up in portrait mode to ease the back and forth when tweaking between TNRe and sequenced instruments - Thumbjam, Model 15, KQsynth, Modular, and Yamahas very own Synth Book (!) all fit the bill...

    Thanks so much for your help on this. Very generous.

    I'm weighing up between this and Infinite Looper actually (for my non gadget iphone action).

  • Is it wierd that I was going to buy the gadgets.... Decided not to... Then say soundtestroom videos and bought then anyways DX

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