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Drum and Bass demo with Gladstone Gadget
I bought Gladstone and had a go at some loud, live arranged, drum and bass. All thoughts appreciated.
All drums are Gladstone (with some decimator applied) apart from the kick which is from London (cos the kicks in Gladstone really weren't working for this genre).
Edit: I'm also side chaining the bassline from the London kick drum.
[mixed pretty hot on headphones, apologies if it's too hot!]
Any thoughts appreciated.
Comments
Very nice groove. Shows how well Korg thought out each Gadget and its place.
Thanks. Yes it's an extremely well thought out app.
By the way this is 100% Gadget. No additional processing or mastering or anything.
Yeah Gadget is very nice. What i am missing is a simpler layed out subtractive synth. The UI is too i wanna look real. You loose a bit of traction when you have to split your workflow into several gadgets.
I hope will see an AU Host gadget soon
Great tune, Matt!
good stuff! - i like. bassline was cool - how'd you do that?
Thanks. It's pretty crazy Wolfsburgh patch I made. Screen shots attached.
It's got an LFO that effects the speed of another LFO that's effecting the filter (thus the slow sweeps you can hear). And lots of tube drive and ensemble to give that thickness.
Plus it's got a bit of a thump on its attack. And it's fairly heavily side chained.
I might steal that. Thanks! Love to hear a more downtempo demo of the new drums too if you're up to it!
Steal away
. Would be interested to hear how you use it.
Nice 'un!
Thanks
Good run at it. Used to live in an apartment on 82nd Street and I could swear the guy downstairs played this bassline through the wall....
The bass is monstrous, like the movement on it too, it doesn't sound to wide left to right so it would probably translate well on mono systems. The break was nice and shuffly, only thing I'd maybe change was giving the snare a tiny bit more when the track drops, either by slight volume, reverb or eq automation, although the temptation to keep monkeying about when I make tunes, leads to trouble, so maybe don't take my advice, I wouldn't.
82nd street in what city?
And Matt, cool sounding track!
Sorry. I do that all the time. Have this weird presumption when I'm talking about New York everyone else must surely know. I've got a thing about New York.
Atleast i didn't ask what country XD. This is a global forum you know
Ha, @JohnnyGoodyear , I never know with you! I only asked because I work on w.83rd and Amsterdam every Sunday (including today) and also play a club on w.84th and Columbus from time to time. So unless you were on the east side, I was in your old neighborhood today.
Not to hijack the thread from matt's song, which was very cool.
That's really good. @Matt_Fletcher_2000 I was wondering on this song did you use only step programming in Gadget or did you play live too? Use any external controllers? If so what kind? Thanks.
nice,
higher lead sound need more treatment
there is lots of free room in the middle for some jazzy saxophone or ad lips or something?
I don't like the sidechaining @ all makes the volume jump strangely around not funky
(sjidechaining is always the lazy way out, I don't have enough room for my elements so I autopush them away, not good )
old drum and bass didn't have that fat techno kick drum
you have to decide big bassy kick or big bass (techno goes um ba ba so you don't have bass and the kick at the same time)
both = mess
thats where the problems comes from and why you had to sidechain ...
this is live
its hard to come up live with the complexity of d&b sound
the records are so mangled and edited all over the place
I always recommend Omni Trio
masters of the art
Mr. Fletcher,
fat tune.
welcome to the club
Cough, cough, splutter, god damn it man, you've made my monocle fall into my port, sidechaining is a gift from heaven, I'll often sidechain a kick drum to another kick drum, then another, same again, then one more for good measure, which then gets sidechained to a cowbell, just to give my tracks that bit extra.
Love it!
Every time I see 'Ali G' I hear this tune in my head...
Bwahaha, that walk... Whenever I go anywhere with three syllables in the name I get 'Ali in the flowershop, Ali in the flowershop' or 'Ali in the hardware store, Ali in the hardware store' etc.
Man, I gotta listen to more DnB, always makes me feel awesome.
Thanks @lala - yep - the whole thing was put together very quickly just as a demo to see if Gladstone drums could work for drum and bass.
I agree with you on the bass - it's prett much the first time I've ever used side chaining and what I've done does sound a little weird. With more time I'd probably try working with more rhythm in the note positioning and maybe the LFOs / filter.
Everything is also just very quick/lazy - it's the same drum pattern throughout, the same bass pattern throughout, only slight variation (addition actually) in the lead. No mixing other than just levels in Gadget. Etc etc. And I'm just bringing clips in and out and messing with the Chiang Mai lead live a bit.
So just a quick jam.
I agree about the need dig in and do the hard work with drum and bass.
Anyway, main thing was what people thought of the drums? Credible for drum and bass or not? I think they sound a bit 'bright' but I quite like the acoustic feel (more Roni Size feel).
Most my stuff uses digitally made drum sounds though.
I can see the Roni Size influence. Sounds authentic. Funny thing when I first used Gladstone all I could think it is only for acoustic recordings.
That's what I am talking about
To lazy to make the elements fit together
More cowbell
3 kick drums, really?
I prefer one kick drum that works together with the bass ...
I sometimes have two kick drums but the 2nd is then some kind of mutated bass
Less is more
Ever since daft punk came up with that pumping compression that sidechain stuff is everywhere
Forgive my ignorance, but what does side chaining do for mixing or recording?
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/14236/sidechaining-in-gadget-how-and-why/p1