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  • @Samu said:

    @Rich303 said:
    I still want an iPolysix Gadget.

    Me too, and a Mono/Poly Gadget would be awesome too :)
    (Still waiting for the 'complete' Korg Legacy Collection for iOS both as AU-X and 'Gadgets').

    Yeah, the Mono/Poly would be even better. Definitely want the whole Legacy Collection as gadgets and AUs. I'm not sure what'll happen in the future. But anything's possible. Korg has gained a lot of popularity here in iOS World. They're here for the long haul. So things should be getting even more exciting down the line.

  • Said it before:

    Vienna = String Gadget
    Liverpool = Guitar Gadget
    Louisiana = Woodwind Gadget
    Stockholm = Audio/Sampler Gadget

    When?

  • Korg MS2000 'App' and 'Gadget' for it would be pretty neat...
    I get real flashbacks from this video from the time when I used to mess with a friends MS2000...

    Too bad he already sold it as I would have been more than happy to buy it today :D

  • @Samu said:
    Korg MS2000 'App' and 'Gadget' for it would be pretty neat...
    I get real flashbacks from this video from the time when I used to mess with a friends MS2000...

    Too bad he already sold it as I would have been more than happy to buy it today :D

    Samu, I've got an Korg MS2000 in mint condition...
    Nice machine, but never used, especially since the iOS synthrally started...

    Living in the west coast of Sweden?

  • edited August 2016

    @ErrkaPetti said:
    Said it before:

    Vienna = String Gadget
    Liverpool = Guitar Gadget
    Louisiana = Woodwind Gadget
    Stockholm = Audio/Sampler Gadget

    When?

    I like all of these, except Stockholm, it has to somehow be syndrome (syn drum maybe?).

  • I finally got around to reading this thread; great comments ideas for an app that has the potential to be a real powerhouse. But phew, the wishes are gettin' mighty thick round here. Oy vey, what a list! Here's a challenge - just pick one. What is the one item or feature that you would want included in the next Gadget update?
    No cheating, just one item

    @gburks said:
    Midi out pleeeeeeeeeeeeease! I would pay double the price of other gadget IAP's... Since there must be a concern of cutting into IAP sales if they open up the closed system. But oh to have the Gadget sequencer and automation running my other apps and external gear!

    this this oh yes this. please Gadget folks - midi out with One Clock To Rule Them All...

  • If there was one for me it would be built-in support for IAA-Instruments/AU-X tracks making it possible to render all apps in one go or as individual tracks for mangling...

  • Wouldn’t IAA and AU-X be two things? :)

    My one item would also be sequencing external apps. Maybe Gadgets allowed to also output their sequences as MIDI? It would be nice, but I’m not expecting it.

  • @lovadamusic said:
    Wouldn’t IAA and AU-X be two things? :)

    Sure but I see it as ONE type of feature.
    A 'Gadget' for controlling other apps be it midi, iaa-instrument or au-X :D
    It would just add to the confusion having one Gadget for each...

  • @ErrkaPetti said:

    Samu, I've got an Korg MS2000 in mint condition...
    Nice machine, but never used, especially since the iOS synthrally started...

    Thanks for the offer. I'm too focused on iOS/iPad right now and considering most new gear that comes out is essentially "A computer with custom DSP software" I would rather pay premium for apps instead...
    (I'm quite happy with the complete PPG collection now and having Phonem as AU-X is pretty nice. Hope the rest will follow too).

    I've grown to be a real Korg junkie so if I would ever go hardware again I would go with what ever iteration of 'Kronos' that was available at that time.

    But even with all these 'things' we have available I wish i could re-wire my brain from tech-geek to composer...

  • @Samu said:

    @ErrkaPetti said:

    Samu, I've got an Korg MS2000 in mint condition...
    Nice machine, but never used, especially since the iOS synthrally started...

    Thanks for the offer. I'm too focused on iOS/iPad right now and considering most new gear that comes out is essentially "A computer with custom DSP software" I would rather pay premium for apps instead...
    (I'm quite happy with the complete PPG collection now and having Phonem as AU-X is pretty nice. Hope the rest will follow too).

    I've grown to be a real Korg junkie so if I would ever go hardware again I would go with what ever iteration of 'Kronos' that was available at that time.

    But even with all these 'things' we have available I wish i could re-wire my brain from tech-geek to composer...

    My thoughts was that you could borrow it, not buy it...
    The guy I bought it of would be sad if it left 08-area...

    But, as you say, iOS is more fun just now than old hardware... ;-)

  • @ErrkaPetti said:

    My thoughts was that you could borrow it, not buy it...
    The guy I bought it of would be sad if it left 08-area...

    031-area here :)
    I guess I can make similar sounds with some creative programming with the apps I already have...
    (I will not build stuff using Audulus 3. It drives me nuts!).

    ...just silently wondering why so many iOS Synths 'forget' simple things like a modulation-sequencers and custom LFO wave-forms and limit the synth-engine to one or two LFOs and Envelopes.

    It's all digital so a full modulation matrix should be 'standard' and envelopes/lfos and oscillators could be added on 'as needed' basis. (Yeah, I miss my Nord Micro Modular... Made ton of patches for it that are still available in some mailing list archive from the times where mailing-lists were it and forums were not popularised yet).

    I mean we can look at Moog Model-15 and just wish there was a couple more LFOs, proper arpeggiator and detachable modulation sequencer that could run at other speed-deviations and not be dependent on the main arpeggiator or the need to press a key to make it run...

    But, as you say, iOS is more fun just now than old hardware... ;-)

    Yepp, and it's getting better and better all the time :)

    Gaget is also improving all the time. Who knows maybe Korg will knock us all and add AU-X to Module, iM1, iPolysix, iMS-20, iEletribe and all the Gadgets and show the other 'how it's done' :D (I'd love to have an iKaossilator Gadget too).

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    I like all of these, except Stockholm,

    Huh, really? I seem to empathize with that one the most.

  • As long as Gadget doesn't have a 'linear mode' and insist on being purely 'scene based' audio-tracks make no sense.

    Now Gadget could have a simple audio-recorder to capture a live-performance but in order for it to fit into the scene-apparoch the audio would have to be 'cut' into max 16-bar chunks or even smaller depending in the length of the parts in the actual scene.

    I have to say that even though I'm a huge Gadget I'm not a fan of the scene-approach as there is not even a way to record automation over scene boundaries or loop multiple scenes in the middle of an arrangement...

    Gadget should implement linear mode and allow us as users to 'play' the scenes/tracks as trigger buttons and record the results to the linear tracks for further tweaking...

  • edited August 2016

    @AudioGus said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    I like all of these, except Stockholm,

    Huh, really? I seem to empathize with that one the most.

    I think because the very word of it always reminds me of this guy (who seems a little bit of a grumpus):

  • edited August 2016

    Just for the fun of it I dug into the app-bundle of Gadget again and found two 'Korg References' that are not present in any of the Gadgets in use (they feel like 'left-overs' in the bundle). These were called Radias and Monopoly...

    Tha Radias is a relative to the MS-2000...
    (The picture is from the web).

  • @Samu said:
    Just for the fun of it I dug into the app-bundle of Gadget again and found two 'Korg References' that are not present in any of the Gadgets in use (they feel like 'left-overs' in the bundle). These were called Radias and Monopoly...

    Tha Radias is a relative to the MS-2000...
    (The picture is from the web).

    Cool sleuthing!!

  • @Samu said:
    As long as Gadget doesn't have a 'linear mode' and insist on being purely 'scene based' audio-tracks make no sense.

    Now Gadget could have a simple audio-recorder to capture a live-performance but in order for it to fit into the scene-apparoch the audio would have to be 'cut' into max 16-bar chunks or even smaller depending in the length of the parts in the actual scene.

    I have to say that even though I'm a huge Gadget I'm not a fan of the scene-approach as there is not even a way to record automation over scene boundaries or loop multiple scenes in the middle of an arrangement...

    Gadget should implement linear mode and allow us as users to 'play' the scenes/tracks as trigger buttons and record the results to the linear tracks for further tweaking...

    I think my favorite thing about Gadget is that it's Gadget, and not the final answer to everything. I had to get used to the scene-based way of composing, but that's what makes the app unique and gets me thinking outside my usual box. At first I assumed all the limitations must be roadblocks, but me adapting to it rather than it adapting to me is really no different than any musical instrument I've ever played.

    While I like the idea of some additions and improvements to Gadget, I'll be happy if Korg keeps it clean and elegant. For me it doesn't need to be a complete DAW. I have several of those already.

  • Number one UX quirk that gets me in a live situation is that the window scrolls to show the currently playing scene, until you touch the window. It then stops scrolling the currently playing scene into view. When I have my hands full live and make the mistake of touching the screen, it kills my ability to see what's going on later in the song.

  • @Samu

    as there is not even a way to record automation over scene boundaries

    There is. Just have the track play through recording, accross scene boundaries, and wiggle the knobs. (You have to be careful not to produce a 'jump' in the automation at the start and finish of the part you record though).

    Or is that not what you meant?

  • @amarok midi out would be the one feature that would make me take gadget seriously. I doubt it will ever happen since Korg wouldn't sell as many preset based Gadget instruments if it would support midi out. Good marketing move. They found a way to make us pay for upgrades while not even really improving the app itself. Still a fun app though. Really is a shame they don't push it forward.

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    There is. Just have the track play through recording, accross scene boundaries, and wiggle the knobs. (You have to be careful not to produce a 'jump' in the automation at the start and finish of the part you record though).

    Or is that not what you meant?

    That might 'work' but there is no way to 'loop' just the two scenes on which the automation happens or 'draw' over scene boundaries with automatic 'scroll over' to the next scene.

    I could use the LFOs at slow speeds to span longer periods of time but there is no way to 'hold' to notes past the 16 bar limit :(

    For some scenarios Gadget really needs a linear mode too...

  • edited September 2016

    @Samu said:

    @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    There is. Just have the track play through recording, accross scene boundaries, and wiggle the knobs. (You have to be careful not to produce a 'jump' in the automation at the start and finish of the part you record though).

    Or is that not what you meant?

    That might 'work' but there is no way to 'loop' just the two scenes on which the automation happens or 'draw' over scene boundaries with automatic 'scroll over' to the next scene.

    I could use the LFOs at slow speeds to span longer periods of time but there is no way to 'hold' to notes past the 16 bar limit :(

    For some scenarios Gadget really needs a linear mode too...

    I tend to agree with @lovadamusic on this one Samu... Gadget is Gadget and if you break the main concepts in order to put everything in it, it will be a mess... IMO.
    Personnally, I would prefer some new Gadegts and some improvements of existing ones (this would be new and awesome for me ; e.g. add the big velocity keyboard on every Gadgets, add some transcent detection and slight fade in / out in ABu Dhabi and Bilbao to avoid clips and pops, add sounds in Marseille, ...).
    Peace.

  • @ElGregoLoco said:

    Personnally, I would prefer some new Gadegts and some improvements of existing ones (this would be new and awesome for me ; e.g. add the big velocity keyboard on every Gadgets, add some transcent detection and slight fade in / out in ABu Dhabi and Bilbao to avoid clips and pops, add sounds in Marseille, ...).
    Peace.

    Those features are definitely higher up on my priority-list.
    iCloud Drive/DocumentPicker support for all import/export operations would be pretty sweet too :)

  • edited September 2016

    Some transport buttons and left right arrows up top to switch between gadgets from full screen gadget mode. :)

  • @Samu said:
    As long as Gadget doesn't have a 'linear mode' and insist on being purely 'scene based' audio-tracks make no sense.

    Wouldn't that pretty much be ableton? in setup I mean , I realize ableton can warp audio like no one's business.

    Also, garageband did it.

    But I do understand what you mean as well. I'm sure there's a way to make it work well.

  • edited September 2016

    @stelvio said:
    @amarok midi out would be the one feature that would make me take gadget seriously. I doubt it will ever happen since Korg wouldn't sell as many preset based Gadget instruments if it would support midi out. Good marketing move. They found a way to make us pay for upgrades while not even really improving the app itself. Still a fun app though. Really is a shame they don't push it forward.

    I can imagine a Midi Out Gadget that lets you assign ccs to knobs or sliders, maybe even has a screen with a couple xy pads like kiev that you could configure. It could be super simple and powerful. Make it like $60 for the hard core folks. I wouldnt even flinch.

    That being said I am currently having a second honeymoon with Modstep. Tis good but not as flowy.

  • @stelvio said:
    @amarok midi out would be the one feature that would make me take gadget seriously. I doubt it will ever happen since Korg wouldn't sell as many preset based Gadget instruments if it would support midi out. Good marketing move. They found a way to make us pay for upgrades while not even really improving the app itself. Still a fun app though. Really is a shame they don't push it forward.

    Gadget has improved quite a bit over time and for free. No one has to buy more Gadgets if they don’t actually need those instruments to make better music. I use Gadget a lot, so I suppose that means I take it seriously. It’s self-containment and simplicity is attractive. Every app doesn’t need to do everything. Music can be made with it, and there are also ways to incorporate it as an instrument in a larger context. Way I see it, if Korg couldn’t make it a somewhat closed system on their own terms, there probably would be no Gadget on iOS.

  • @lovadamusic said:

    @stelvio said:
    @amarok midi out would be the one feature that would make me take gadget seriously. I doubt it will ever happen since Korg wouldn't sell as many preset based Gadget instruments if it would support midi out. Good marketing move. They found a way to make us pay for upgrades while not even really improving the app itself. Still a fun app though. Really is a shame they don't push it forward.

    Gadget has improved quite a bit over time and for free. No one has to buy more Gadgets if they don’t actually need those instruments to make better music. I use Gadget a lot, so I suppose that means I take it seriously. It’s self-containment and simplicity is attractive. Every app doesn’t need to do everything. Music can be made with it, and there are also ways to incorporate it as an instrument in a larger context. Way I see it, if Korg couldn’t make it a somewhat closed system on their own terms, there probably would be no Gadget on iOS.

    Good perspective.

  • My current wish is to have the knobs work right. They either go at a snail's pace, or as if on ice.

    And the award for App with Most Amount of Little Annoyances goes to... Korg's Gadget!

    Seriously, how did they think it was okay to release it with the knobs like this? Thing is, they weren't always this way. Maybe we'll get a fix next June, since their support is so good.

    Yes, this crap bugs me.

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