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  • You just inspired me to create a new iVCS3 patch @u0421793 Thank you! :smiley:

  • @lovadamusic said:

    @nick said:

    @lovadamusic said:
    In some cases, it may be that there's some space available in the interface, so it's filled temporarily with a placeholder image to enhance the look of the device. I'd bet if the developer needed the space for an active interface element, they'd use it for that.

    In Gadget, I'm sure it is a design principle. Most Gadgets have some elements that are just an illustration of fake functionality that only the physical gadget would have. They are quite consistent with it. The instrument gadgets from Module don't have it but that makes sense.

    I haven't thought about it much, but I like the interfaces in Gadget. They're pretty comfortable to use. Everything is probably based on a design principle, and that principle may be that some elements should be decorative, creating space or symmetry...

    I like them as well. I especially like how they break quite a few design and usability principles on purpose, and exactly that is part of what makes Gadget so unique and fun to use.

  • @Telefunky said:
    did you never notice comments like: 'looks great...' after a new app or plugin is released ?
    and in fact: it really is ridiculous... :p

    Not when you consider what we're dealing with on these devices: the UI. There's a more-than-excellent chance that our first exposure to new apps is what we SEE of them in the App Store (or the venue of your choice). Even if your first exposure to a new app is a demo video, you'll still have to press PLAY before you hear anything - and probably only after you can catch a glimpse of the UI. And there is plenty of back and forth here on this forum about good & bad UI's.

  • edited July 2016

    @Brain said:
    ... And there is plenty of back and forth here on this forum about good & bad UI's.

    yes, there is - but my (ironic) comment didn't refer to the 'user' part of an interface
    it was about surface design, supposed to transmit a soundimpression via an image

    I've seen plain stock equalizers with a photorealistic Pultec surface, sold for a significant extra charge
    popular description: 'modelled to the finest details' and the thing looks exactly like what it pretends ...
    it's pretty hard to withstand such temptation and rely on one's own ears
    the method works really well - and such designs definitely don't improve handling

    right the opposite is that '2 circles on an XY-pad' approach that SamplR takes for reverb setup
    looks almost ugly, but is by far the most effective screen control I've ever experienced anywhere
    it's even self-explanatory... or rather doesn't need any explanation at all

    cheers, Tom

  • @Telefunky said:

    @Brain said:
    ... And there is plenty of back and forth here on this forum about good & bad UI's.

    yes, there is - but my (ironic) comment didn't refer to the 'user' part of an interface
    it was about surface design, supposed to transmit a soundimpression via an image

    I've seen plain stock equalizers with a photorealistic Pultec surface, sold for a significant extra charge
    popular description: 'modelled to the finest details' and the thing looks exactly like what it pretends ...
    it's pretty hard to withstand such temptation and rely on one's own ears
    the method works really well - and such designs definitely don't improve handling

    True, in hardware, if you put a thermionic valve in there, it makes it indisputably better. This even works in software. Put a photograph of a valve glowing away behind a baffle, and it must sound better. In fact, go further and make the image of the valve’s grid glow unrealistically brightly as if it is some sort of light bulb — even better sounding, see how bright it is?

  • @u0421793 said:
    Having said that — iVCS3. When you turn a knob, the reflection goes with it. Eh?

    I imagine an extra transparency layer that keeps the reflection static would create more overhead than is probably necessary, given how little it has to do with the functionality.

  • @supanorton said:

    I don't know about you, but to me this image sounds like a low E on a Precision bass gently modulated by the noise of a Norton Dominator on idle.

    As for GB, I still use it more than any other music making tool, on my iPod touch, every day. Generally when I'm walking through the park or on a train/bus. When a melody/riff 'pops into my head', could be while I'm watching something (music - ahem!) on TV, or anytime really, I can grab it and in seconds I'm recording. I'll have phases of playing with other apps, recently ikaossilator and gadget (tiny tiny iPod gadget!), but for capturing the muse, just playing/exploring in a way that you can quickly build on, it's GB on my iPod. Got all the apps from Korg Arturia moog Auria Cubasis etc, but truth is iPad is for weekend/holiday doodling, iPod is the daily sketchpad. Constraints? Sure. I hate not being able to quickly transfer a project into Auria. I try to embrace constraints as a spur to creativity, and I tell myself that the limited synthesis options stop me from spending the hours I can invest exploring the Arturia V-collection on the laptop, and just get on with getting something down; more punk less prog please!

    My creativity dissipates rapidly when faced with all the config that goes with the more sophisticated recording options; I can spend 15- 30 minutes twice a day with GB and find that I have a stack of stuff I enjoy after a while, which is many times the output I can point to after years of spending 15 minutes of config and hours of stuff I didn't like (because I'd dropped out of 'play' mode) on various full DAWs.

    I could go on...

    iOS GB turned me from Apple sceptic to fanboi (according to my mates!), and, thankfully, reawakened my musical dabbling after years of inactivity.

  • edited July 2016

    @Tirna_Nog said:
    I don't know about you, but to me this image sounds like a low E on a Precision bass gently modulated by the noise of a Norton Dominator on idle.

    hopefully not... if your preamp stage is glowing like that, there wouldn't be much time left to enjoy it... ;)
    anyway, this is at least one of the better designs with appealing functionality:
    on tip of a tube's image a selection pannel pops up and uses this part of the screen
    response of the dials is remarkably smooth, easy to operate (a feature that doesn't apply to all dials)

    cheers, Tom

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