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"MYSTERY TO ME": App you never quite grasped?
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It really does seem like Cream is in its own stratosphere of Misunderstood / being among the least intuitive apps in iOSville but the mighty Kaikoo(2) said - if I recall correctly - that he valued it Over his beloved ModStep and AUM and via his usual poetic style said Cream allowed his soul to sing. (Hope I'm not misquoting here). Heavy praise from an advanced-advanced power user.
My personal two are iVC3 and AnalogKit: using both has lead to "holy sh*t!" moments which have zero mental breadcrumb trails to or from home again.
Forgot about ShapeSynth. And Elsa. But I like the mystery with these two!
Different Drummer
You don't have to be the developer to understand this, but it probably helps.
Sector
I now put voices through it. Buggered if I can get a decent rhythm going. Sounds like a cat among dustbins when I try.
Skram
Fed up waiting for AB connectivity, and saving. Jokers.
Cream
Ridiculously complicated.
Phonem
Stupidly convoluted saving. Brilliant app, but getting it to do what I want (singing lines from song) proving very difficult if not impossible!
@ uo421793
I'm just getting into Yamaha Mibile Music Sequencer. Have you tried the owners manual and the good tut videos on YouTube?
Also whoever said Model 15 was giving them a hard time, Mac Pro videos has a new tutorial on it.
I have progressed a short distance into the manual, and various videos. I also had a (now dead) QY20 which was my most productive tool for a while, and I still have a (to be sold) QY700 which by contrast was far too complex to use without recourse to the manual every step of the way. Yamaha MMS does make a lot more sense to me now than it did in the start, but still not enough to behave as expected.
Don't forget my WTFknobs series (I'm pondering another one, but delaying it because I want to do it in a different and new technology) So far I cover pain points in Nave iVCS3 Animoog Sector and iMS-20, and while it is not a tutorial (go to Doug and Jacob and others, for that) it might defrignten the mystery knobs.
Getting things to record in time. I always end up with a bunch of loops out of sync and with bits missing.
Every now and again I'll watch the vids, open it up, have a go and then close it again. With less shouting than iMPC Pro, but similar frustration. To be fair though I haven't tried for over a year - so with AB updates, Link and Aum, maybe things are easier now.
I'm not an idiot, well not much anyway - I can programme commerce systems, run a business and tie my own shoelaces, but this thing just doesn't seem to sync in.
Saunders. Well, the other one too, I suppose, but in honesty all I've ever done with the latter was open it, go humph and shut it down again, to be stored for future use when I ever need something like that. The Saunders one has a lot of potential and would be something I could spend a lot of time with, but there's something about it that hinders acceptance. I'm sure it's just a question of learning it, but it is not immediate - not one of those that can work without recourse to a manual, and often. If the buttons actually said what they did, using words, it'd be a start.
The big hindrance I have with DD is that I understand the principles perfectly well (and for example, do a lot of synthesis with harmonic additive models) (and am fully comfortable with Oscilab's wave adding / phase adding ways) but DD gives the overall impression that I'm setting something to happen up correctly, looking at all the controls and measurements, etc, and then what happens bears no relation to what I specified, and often bears no relationship to the fact that I've even done anything at all There's a huge disparity between my actions; what I see; and what I consequently hear - a gulf. The result is that I'm not in control, and I was fully convinced I was, it isn't that I don't know what I'm doing, it's that the app doesn't know how to respond adequately and does something else, or usually, nothing different. I blame this on the UI, with the resultant UX being one of disconnect.
In fact, that is one of my biggest impedences with sequencers in general — they all do things in quite different ways, and with sequencers there is a much lower transferable knowledge than in general synthesis, and their different ways of doing whatever tasks are available often take a lot of individual learning and remembering per app, not per concept. One can learn the concepts of sequencing, then be faced with a sequencer app that throws all of that learning out of the window because it doesn't act as expected, and doesn't make it easy or discoverable to fall into the channels of guidance to get to the desired action to achieve the desired outcome. This irritates, both the new user who doesn't know the principles of the overall task, and also the experienced practitioner of the overall task who doesn't know the deviant and far-away-from-best-practice quirks and experiments of a particular approach embodied in an individual app.
Borderlands, AUM, and Samplr are all ones I really WANT to like, but never really have a use for or get results I like. I know Samplr is heresy for a lot of people, as neat as it is I just never end up with anything I've done with it in one of my songs.
Lemur
Oh, and Cream, obviously.
Cream
part of Modstep
Actually I gave them one full ass and a half of effort and I keep struggling with them, for I realise that they really have potential and are, in their own way, great apps
Here's an answer with a twisted. At a certain point I used to use the more complex apps like Cubasis. Nowadays I look only for apps with a simple and intuitive UI. If I want to do more complex things like songs with multiple midi channels, etc. I use my computer. The workflow is so much faster. My opinion is that iOS is not (yet) suited for complex stuff with endless menu''s, etc.
@u0421793 not convinced that you actually do know how Different Drummer works or how to use it though I know how it can seem when you've forgotten some setting you chose that changes the play style such as the ABCD buttons on each wave. I could take off a bunch of choices for people and reduce it down to foolproof but I would reduce the unique possibilities by trillions of times. I have numerous expert users who could give lessons but unfortunately Different Drummer is a college course. Music power always comes with a cost. Some people want Guitar Hero, others want a Les Paul or Strat.
I'm closing this thread. See my comments about it and other threads created by Rustik here.