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The routing in pro is much more flexible as well. I don't remember if the improved routing made it into the new version of non-pro, but it's definitely in pro and lashes a huge difference in mixing. I use it to route aux sends to tracks, which let's me filter the lows and highs before they hit the reverb, which is a cool way to sit the reverb in the track in a more subtle way (while allowing you to actually send more to it). You can compress your returns too if so inclined, though I don't generally. Plus you can build chains of effects on one aux.
Pro is well worth it even if you never use the midi for much.
I'm a Cubasis owner as well. please explain the pitch shifting. can I have a wav file playing in a track and automate the pitch to shift up. like just before a drop in house style music.? how many octaves can it shift up or down?
Let me add two more things Auria Pro have, even without IAPs, that Cubasis don't have, even fully IAPped:
You can move things around, tunes etc, folders, rename and so forth, but my guess is that this may not be sufficiently the droid you're looking for. It's a mixture of the word comprehensive in your question and my foreknowledge as to your endlessly high standards that make me think so.
I still love you of course.
@eross: up to an octave up and down, and cumulative (you can apply it multiple times for really extreme shifting). No, it cannot be automated AFAIK, because it's a process (that is, that creates a new audio region, which is pasted on top of the region tgat was pitch shifted) rather than an effect.
I'm going for it. Mostly because I'm sure PRO gets all of the dev's attention, and regular Auria doesn't support external hard drives, and lastly because if he'd originally offered the Pro upgrade for $20 I likely would've upgraded then .
The piano roll might be nice to have and Fruitbat says the twin2 synth is nice.
Thank you all so much for the kind responses.
I am not sure if I’ll buy Auria Pro even at this amazing price because I also have Cakewalk Sonar on my PC should I want more in-depth editing / mastering, plus I understand that Cubasis may have a major update available at some point in the next year or so (correct?), plus the more software and hardware I buy the more time I’ll spend noodling, thus the less time I’ll spend making music.
Now if an innovative, unique generative / performance app came along, I would have a much tougher time saying no!
At $25, Auria Pro is probably as good a deal as you'll find on iOS, but if one doesn't need what an app offers, then comparisons are kind of useless, no?
I paid full for AP when it came out, and coincidentally picked up Cubasis recently for the $25 discount. AP is the horse to pull a bigger wagon, but I think Cubasis is also a good app to have. Progress with it apparently hasn't been fast, but you'd think the next version should offer at least a few of the features already implemented in AP... Assuming this Labor Day sale isn't Rim waving the white flag on iOS, the next major update for AP should go farther as well. And so on...
It's rather the other way round, comparisons are made by assessing benefits / drawbacks of competing products, then decisions can be made in light of this. My commentary is not intended to sway another's decision making process but to chat about possibles, probables, comparisons, etc. and learn in the process.
This is a logical theory that many of us pay lip service to, but the matter is usually decided by a balance between want and need and given some focus by available resources along with our relative ability to hide our acquisition from the Missus.
I believe there was recently a thread comparing AP and Cubasis. It's an interesting topic.
But to your inquiry... if Auria Pro had more benefits and less drawbacks, you'd buy it at the discount? If I may ask, what lack of benefits or drawbacks led to your decision?
...or let me rephrase that. Is there anything Auria Pro could be that would attract you to buying it? I also do a lot of editing on a desktop, so I can see where someone might not need a DAW at all on iOS.
I am not sure if I’ll buy Auria Pro even at this amazing price because I also have Cakewalk Sonar on my PC should I want more in-depth editing / mastering, plus I understand that Cubasis may have a major update available at some point in the next year or so (correct?), plus the more software and hardware I buy the more time I’ll spend noodling, thus the less time I’ll spend making music.
Now if an innovative, unique generative / performance app came along, I would have a much tougher time saying no!
That's what I thought, and thus my response. It doesn't matter how AP and Cubasis compare, if there was never any intention to buy AP. We did get to see AP's more sophisticated features again for those who may have missed it.
Deleted the rant regarding my frustrations with this app. I don't want to discourage anyone on the fence thinking of buying. It's likely just more app complexity for my particular needs is all. Your mileage may vary. This is a full, Pro DAW for sure. But, this isn't an app for novices though. The only reason I'm sticking with it is because it's the only DAW that can give you video reference for soundtracking via the video import IAP.
It might just be that the way you work and think just doesn't jive with Auria. I've certainly ran into that before with illustration software. For me Auria Pro seems extremely straightforward: it's the closest thing to a desktop-style DAW I've used on iOS. I've mixed complex songs to completion, and in many ways the mixing experience is more pleasant than using my desktop. (The FabFilter plugs are astonishing). I've never had any issues hooking up any of my hardware, though I don't have a Bluetooth keyboard. (Like every DAW on iOS, I find using anything other than internal instruments frustrating for music creation). Can't wait for Auria to get AU!
I really like Cubasis as well, but in it's current state (for me at least), it's more of a quick idea sketcher. I'm sure if you're talented enough you could produce quality finished tunes on it, but for me it lacks I sorts of stuff that I rely on for mixing: busses, tempo tracks, pitch shifting, markers, etc. But it's a super-smooth tune creating machine, and I'm excited to see what's coming next.
In the end, we all just have to find what works best for us. And though I know some consider Auria's price expensive, at least you're not out hundreds like when you find a desktop DAW just isn't doing it for you.
Haha, I think that same thing every time I try and pitch something with that piece of crap. I seriously don't understand how it's even possible to make something that bad.
You're probably right. I eventually get over the hurdles in Auria, but it always takes me much longer than any other app I have.
This will sound silly I'm sure, but it may be because of Auria being TOO straight forward. By that I mean that because I've spent so much time figuring out more abstract, idiosyncratic, quirky interfaces on my own, that when I'm faced with clear logic, it seems alien and unintuitive. Does that make sense?
I've had to teach corporate staff in the past how to use web design interfaces that I thought were completely simple and intuitive, but because they were used to very complicated and unintuitive business interfaces, they couldn't ever seem to grasp the simplest tasks in the much simpler graphic interface environment.
FWIW, as Cubasis already hosts AU and is surely due a significant update soon-ish, I'm not inclined to switch horses mid race, so to speak. I have synths I have samplers and on the desktop I have Logic Pro X.
When I bought the original Auria I found it as tricky and frustrating to use as @skiphunt has reported. Then came the business decision to make a separate 'pro' product, and early adopters could either upgrade (buy again), stick with an inferior product, or look elsewhere. I looked to Cubasis, and have been very pleased with it.
So, the Auria sale price is most attractive for those who do not already have a DAW. It's a case of which product best suits individual needs.
Sorry I didn't reply to your message @skiphunt I have to sleep some times lol. See you are ok now but still frustrated.
I would say to you this - Any DAW can have a learning curve. The more features, often the greater the learning curve. Still on that curve myself with Auria and Cubasis (after my thread I decided to keep them both for certain tasks).
The thing is, like with most things in life, the initial part of the learning process often seems the worse. You will hit a point where it clicks, that is, if you put in the effort. The reward with Auria Pro is a very useful feature set and a sense of achievement.
I know you are a self confessed molder of noise and Auria Pro is probably not ideal for your working process, yet it has access to features and sound possibilities that would be ideal. So I would say persist. Learn what you can and let people here help when you really get stuck. I've had lots of help from the learned folks of Audiobus Forums
I'd say it's worth it, it's a great DAW - but not without it's quirks. I should say that that pitch correction plug-in thing, is weak.
Reckon that Auria's ever going to be able to sync to a Link clock?
I guess it's just because I have an iPad mini, but once we get into the depths found in Auria Pro, there's a certain tedium for me to deal with the interface. At that point, I find working with Logic an easier beast to navigate. The reason I like Cubasis is that it balances features with a well-considered touch interface. It seems to "know its place", as it were, and integrates well in a mobile workflow.
I could totally see how Cubasis on a mini would provide a friendlier experience! On my Pro, working with Auria is very similar to working on a laptop with a great touch screen. I'm guessing with a mini, not so much.
Great question. I'll stick to ableton on my laptop until iOS DAW catches up with Link .
And, Cubasis IS soon to get a new update., I think this Update will be another very good one and no doubt the reason for this sale. So looking forward to see what The Cubasis crew is bringing to us very soon I believe.
I did buy the upgrade. Sale seemed like a good value to get the sampler, two synths, and all the MIDI functionality. But the continued lack of AU is strange and it does seem to have a learning curve. I may end up preferring MTS anyway, but I like the combination of MIDI editing and a more conventiona editing layout in the same app.
It's interesting how different apps promote different experiences. In Gadget, it's easy to get things up and running, but everything I produce is far more EDM than I would expect. Modstep tracks seem to live in a cool, theme-and-variation world, with lots of little melodies coming and going. My Cubasis songs tend to be kind of aimless, fascinating excursions (usually based on the aimless, fascinating jams in AUM where they originated). Auria I'm just starting to move to. Its lack of built-in keyboard really inhibits writing, but I find a seriousness of purpose when I'm working with tracks there. And it sounds notably better than Cubasis, which I find really sonically lacking.
tl;dr: get Auria. get them all.
I did eventually figure it out. And it did turn out to be something so obvious and simple, as to be embarrassing (if it were a snake, I'd be in its belly now)
The problem was I wasn't arming the track I was trying to play. I know, stupid right? In my mind, I didn't think I needed to arm a track until I was going to record it, not to simply play a synth on that track without recording. But, it makes absolutely perfect sense to do it that way now. After 3hrs... major facepalm DOH moment.
After getting past that, it was easy.
For those considering it, who need or want a full-blown pro-level DAW on iOS, I think it's a steal at the current $25.
For those like me who've already invested money in Auria but don't have Pro yet, the synths it comes with (Twin2, Fab1) and Lyra are worth the $20 upgrade alone. Twin2 also has a lot of very good, soundscape/cinematic sounds built in.
The piano roll works very well, and is intuitive.
I haven't figured out the mixing complexity yet, but with the video import add-on, the great synth plugins, the fact moving around clips, fades, crossfades, etc. are straight forward, easy and intuitive... and now as pro it supports external hard drives... I think I'm "all in" on the Auria Pro train now.
@skiphunt
It comes with two synths (Twin2, Fab1) and Lyra.
Yes.. sorry, will edit. Those are all very good. They've all got useful soundscape/cinematic stuff built-in that will certainly be useful to my particular use. I think that's what you were trying to tell me. For those alone I definitely think it was worth the upgrade sale price.