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Enlightenment Please !

Hi,

Am looking for an app / software so that I can practice my guitar at night when everyone at home is in bed without waking them.

Am looking at BIAS FX for IPad Mini. As I know there are alternatives out there.
Are there any pros / cons to this app / software ?

Can I utilise an old Irig connector can I use a guitar interconnect cable ?

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  • Oh, and welcome aboard. Wear headphones to keep quiet. :D

  • edited October 2016

    Bias fx for the win. I wouldnt suggest using anything that goes through headphone jack(they suck big time since there is no preamp in them), get a proper audio interface(steinberg ur22 is great and it has midi ports, so you can hook up any old/cheap midi keyboard to your ipad via it, but it currently doesent work with ios10). Also if you hook up preamp from a real amp(and turn off the preamp section from bias), the sound gets A LOT better, same for using real overdrive pedals instead of using simulated overdrive/distortion. I also suggest getting an app called fiddlicator, its free. You can load speaker simulations(impulse responses, which you can find shits tons form internet) from it on the fx chain of bias fx. Also instead of buying the iap effects, instead buy some effects that have iaa(inter app audio) and put them on the fx chain of bias fx instead. With real tube amp preamp on audio interface, impulse responses to simulate speakers and iaa effects, you dont need to buy any iap's on bias fx.

  • @telecharge said:
    Oh, and welcome aboard. Wear headphones to keep quiet. :D

    Right Boss !! Lol

  • edited October 2016

    Hi,

    Thanks for your input (sorry no pun intended !).

    But i didnt realise there was so much choice out there on iOS. Have downloaded most of the free apps and will take things from there.

    After reading the links yesterday. Can i have some advice regarding audio interfaces please? Am looking to play/ pracrice guitar using headphones and not record. So therefore what should i be looking for in an audio interface and what makes / models are recommended ?

    Can i also have some advice on the Griffin Guitar Connect Pro Guitar Input / Griffin Just One Cable for iOS.

  • yep Bias is the best guitar amp on ipad

  • edited October 2016

    @crank090865 said:
    Hi,

    Thanks for your input (sorry no pun intended !).

    But i didnt realise there was so much choice out there on iOS. Have downloaded most of the free apps and will take things from there.

    After reading the links yesterday. Can i have some advice regarding audio interfaces please? Am looking to play/ pracrice guitar using headphones and not record. So therefore what should i be looking for in an audio interface and what makes / models are recommended ?

    Can i also have some advice on the Griffin Guitar Connect Pro Guitar Input for iOS.

    If all you wan t to record is an electric guitar you could do a lot worse and spend a lot more money than getting an Alesis Core 1. I use one of these and a CCK to record guitar and bass into Tonestack with great results.
    gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Alesis-CORE-1-USB-Audio-Interface/XEB
    It is made from Aluminium so is pretty hard wearing and due to its small size, it is very portable.
    It has a Hi Z input so you do not need to use a DI box or Guitar Pre-amp.

  • Hi Andy,

    Thanks for your comment.

    But am not looking to record. Just practice and play.

  • @crank090865 said:
    Hi Andy,

    Thanks for your comment.

    But am not looking to record. Just practice and play.

    If you want to get audio input from an electric guitar then Alesis Core 1 is the most cost effective USB way of doing it that I know of.

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    If you want to get audio input from an electric guitar then Alesis Core 1 is the most cost effective USB way of doing it that I know of.

    Is it compatible with ios 10 ?

  • Bias FX. With Bias amp. I am Bias, but don't let that throw a Bias into your decision.

  • @crank090865 said:

    Is it compatible with ios 10 ?

    I believe so, but I will double check tonight for you if you like.

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    I believe so, but I will double check tonight for you if you like.

    Please !

    But dont forget ipad minis dont have usb ports!

  • @High5denied said:
    Bias FX. With Bias amp. I am Bias, but don't let that throw a Bias into your decision.

    Lol....try that one as a tongue twister after a few beers !

  • @crank090865 said:

    Please !

    But dont forget ipad minis dont have usb ports!

    Thats what the CCK is for. You would need one of these to be able to use any USB audio interface.

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    Thats what the CCK is for. You would need one of these to be able to use any USB audio interface.

    I know ive just looked at online photos of the Alesis and CCK and realised. Doh !

  • @crank090865 said:

    I know ive just looked at online photos of the Alesis and CCK and realised. Doh !

    :D

  • edited October 2016

    @AndyPlankton said:
    If you want to get audio input from an electric guitar then Alesis Core 1 is the most cost effective USB way of doing it that I know of.

    Actually the Behringer Guitar Link has it beat, I think. It's only $39 new, which is $10 cheaper than the Alesis. And the Behringer is often found on Amazon or eBay in used/like new for less.

    Here's one on eBay right now, $25 buy-it-now.

    It's a decent little interface.... way better than the headphone-jack-input ones. I've got one I keep in my laptop bag as a backup interface and it works great.

    To the OP... If you can afford $99, go for the new iRig HD2. It is super compact, has built-in gain and headphone controls, and has two outputs (headphone/line out AND mono out to guitar amp, which lets you use your iPad as an effects processor only by turning off amp/cab sims). Plus it uses simple micro-USB to Lightning cables, which aren't proprietary so you can replace them for cheap if they break or get lost. You also get the unlocked full versions of the iK Amplitube apps on iPad, Mac and PC, which cost hundreds of dollars on their own (I prefer BIAS FX but still, can't beat free!).

    Other nice guitar apps for practice or recording:

    JamUp (same company as BIAS FX but oriented more towards jamming/practicing)
    ToneStack
    AmpKit (basically discontinued but some nice tones especially if you like high-gain stuff)
    Flying Haggis
    GarageBand

  • I will add that if you see yourself branching out and doing more guitar stuff on iPad, then starting out with BIAS FX as your main app is a VERY smart decision, because it can seamlessly integrate with Positive Grid's other fantastic tone modeling amps: BIAS Amps (for crafting your perfect guitar amps) and BIAS Pedal (for crafting your perfect distortion pedals). The integration is very slick and gets you pretty much the best tone control options on iPad.

    And if you ever want to move over to PC/Mac for your guitar recording, BIAS has (pricey) apps that can pick up where you left off on your iPad.

  • Hmm, just found this guy in the related-items section on Amazon's Behringer page: looks like a straight-from-China version of the Guitar Link for only $12.99. Free Prime shipping and no-question returns... seems like a no-brainer to try it.

  • @crank090865 said:
    After reading the links yesterday. Can i have some advice regarding audio interfaces please? Am looking to play/ pracrice guitar using headphones and not record. So therefore what should i be looking for in an audio interface and what makes / models are recommended ?

    Can i also have some advice on the Griffin Guitar Connect Pro Guitar Input / Griffin Just One Cable for iOS.

    I highly suggest the steinberg ur22 mkii, especially if you want midi ports on the interface, its definitely best bang for your buck. If you dont need midi ports and want chap as possible that doesent suck, look for used low end focusrite, roland, or steinberg ur12 interfaces that are ipad compatible. Something like a griffin guitar connect thing wont be nearly on the same level and that costs new about the same as those i mentioned costs used, and they are proper interfaces, thats just some toy. Also something like that guitar link thing is just a crappy toy

  • @ToMess said:
    Also something like that guitar link thing is just a crappy toy

    I have one, and it's not, and he's using it for practice.

  • edited October 2016

    @jesse_ohio said:

    I have one, and it's not, and he's using it for practice.

    Have you compared it to a real interface with proper preamps? Also he(like most guitarists) obviously care for quality since he is asking for good amp sim instead of just using some random free one

  • @ToMess said:

    Have you compared it to a real interface with proper preamps? Also he(like most guitarists) obviously care for quality since he is asking for good amp sim instead of just using some random free one

    My primary interface is an Apogee One, which I think qualifies. Have you tried the Guitar Link?

    You're reading things he never said, and assuming he has a large budget.

    All I know is that for $13 with free shipping and returns, it's a pretty small risk to try it and see if it meets his needs. No need to shoot it down just because you use something more expensive.

  • Without having read all the responses & admitting right up front that I know little about guitars, a question comes to mind: Even if you can listen to your playing through equipment and through headphones, doesn't the acoustic sound of the strings being struck still occur? Would that sound not be an issue?

  • @Brain said:
    Would that sound not be an issue?

    Waking up the family issue or getting on your recording issue?

  • Waking up the family...

  • Assuming you're not simultaneously plugged into a live Marshall stack, it shouldn't be. :) It depends if they're light sleepers. Have you ever heard someone play a disconnected electric guitar? That's the sound it makes.

  • @jesse_ohio said:
    My primary interface is an Apogee One, which I think qualifies. Have you tried the Guitar Link?

    You're reading things he never said, and assuming he has a large budget.

    All I know is that for $13 with free shipping and returns, it's a pretty small risk to try it and see if it meets his needs. No need to shoot it down just because you use something more expensive.

    So you dont hear any difference between the two? I havent tested guitar link myself, but i have discussed about these things with many people on reddit. Sure it might be better than something like irig2(which is pretty much unusable), but you are the first person claiming that its any good.

    Im not assuming that he has a large budget, just saying that its worth to invest on audio interface. And its not worth just because of this, but because its generally a good idea to have a proper interface if you are doing music stuff. No point of getting an interface and something like guitar link, when you can just get an interface that works with ipad and computer. Also not too long ago i saw roland duo-capture being sold for 25€ used, which works with ipad and has good preamps. So its like you need to ave a very big budget to get quality. That extra money can be saved on bias fx if you go with impulse responses and effect apps(and maybe bias amp if you are big on tweaking stuff and want more variety on amp section as well, which i dont think is necessary when using impulses) instead of getting all the iap's(and get higher quality from the app, while also saving money) like i mentioned in my previous post.

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