Blocs Wave for iOS v9 // Now Export seamlessly to Ableton Live

AndyPlankton

@blocsxnovation - Alongside those things you just mentioned for getting a loop and timing set up I would personally want some tools to isolate or remove particular frequencies, some form of EQ/Filtering, also some mid-side processing for isolating or removing vocals and leads (kind of like a PAN filter that either rejects or allows audio from a particular L/R position within the source). I suggest these because if you are importing from iTunes I guess this will mainly be from already produced tracks rather than individual stems.

I'm sure you could 'just knock this up' in a few days

AudioGus

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@iamspoon said:
copy of my luddite moaning from previous Blocs thread

Great App, but still no MIDI clock sync from a company with such a MIDI hardware heritage is bewildering to me.
The curse of Ableton Link?
(I know 3rd party Apps can be used as a workaround but I find that a PITA to set up each time and still no start/stop with PC DAW)

'Link to Midi' isnt a PIA to use at all. Not sure how complex you want your setup though.

If you use the Launchpad app and have the MIDI Sync Out IAP it is even easier, just enable both Link and MIDI Sync output and press the play button

That is pretty much the same thing but Link to Midi will use fewer system resources and be quicker to set up.

kobamoto

oh btw I know everybody wants to be able to do allot of different things to the individual slices in Blocs wave like pitching and the usual suspects etc... but one thing I've never seen in a slicer is the ability to modulate the slices individually in interesting ways... It would be so fresh if after slicing a loop we could glitch out and modulate each slice in a different way.... some very creative beatwork would come out of that, especially combined with the ability to manipulate the grid......

thank you guys for being so open to ideas and responsive, much appreciated .

AudioGus

@kobamoto said:
oh btw I know everybody wants to be able to do allot of different things to the individual slices in Blocs wave like pitching and the usual suspects etc... but one thing I've never seen in a slicer is the ability to modulate the slices individually in interesting ways... It would be so fresh if after slicing a loop we could glitch out and modulate each slice in a different way.... some very creative beatwork would come out of that, especially combined with the ability to manipulate the grid......

thank you guys for being so open to ideas and responsive, much appreciated .

step effects like egoist or effectrix would be amazing.

AndyPlankton

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@iamspoon said:
copy of my luddite moaning from previous Blocs thread

Great App, but still no MIDI clock sync from a company with such a MIDI hardware heritage is bewildering to me.
The curse of Ableton Link?
(I know 3rd party Apps can be used as a workaround but I find that a PITA to set up each time and still no start/stop with PC DAW)

'Link to Midi' isnt a PIA to use at all. Not sure how complex you want your setup though.

If you use the Launchpad app and have the MIDI Sync Out IAP it is even easier, just enable both Link and MIDI Sync output and press the play button

That is pretty much the same thing but Link to Midi will use fewer system resources and be quicker to set up.

Very ture. I was meaning if you are already using LP within your setup, so as to point out additional apps are not required in that scenario

kobamoto

@AndyPlankton said:
@blocsxnovation - Alongside those things you just mentioned for getting a loop and timing set up I would personally want some tools to isolate or remove particular frequencies, some form of EQ/Filtering, also some mid-side processing for isolating or removing vocals and leads (kind of like a PAN filter that either rejects or allows audio from a particular L/R position within the source). I suggest these because if you are importing from iTunes I guess this will mainly be from already produced tracks rather than individual stems.

I'm sure you could 'just knock this up' in a few days

+1 and a sidechain

AndyPlankton

@kobamoto said:

@AndyPlankton said:
@blocsxnovation - Alongside those things you just mentioned for getting a loop and timing set up I would personally want some tools to isolate or remove particular frequencies, some form of EQ/Filtering, also some mid-side processing for isolating or removing vocals and leads (kind of like a PAN filter that either rejects or allows audio from a particular L/R position within the source). I suggest these because if you are importing from iTunes I guess this will mainly be from already produced tracks rather than individual stems.

I'm sure you could 'just knock this up' in a few days

+1 and a sidechain

And another set of hands to operate it all

kobamoto

@AudioGus said:

@kobamoto said:
oh btw I know everybody wants to be able to do allot of different things to the individual slices in Blocs wave like pitching and the usual suspects etc... but one thing I've never seen in a slicer is the ability to modulate the slices individually in interesting ways... It would be so fresh if after slicing a loop we could glitch out and modulate each slice in a different way.... some very creative beatwork would come out of that, especially combined with the ability to manipulate the grid......

thank you guys for being so open to ideas and responsive, much appreciated .

step effects like egoist or effectrix would be amazing.

that sounds good or motion sequencing of modulation fx params, important thing is that each slice can do it's own thing , multiply this by all of the samples you can run at once in blocs wave and dayaaaam!

AudioGus

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@iamspoon said:
copy of my luddite moaning from previous Blocs thread

Great App, but still no MIDI clock sync from a company with such a MIDI hardware heritage is bewildering to me.
The curse of Ableton Link?
(I know 3rd party Apps can be used as a workaround but I find that a PITA to set up each time and still no start/stop with PC DAW)

'Link to Midi' isnt a PIA to use at all. Not sure how complex you want your setup though.

If you use the Launchpad app and have the MIDI Sync Out IAP it is even easier, just enable both Link and MIDI Sync output and press the play button

That is pretty much the same thing but Link to Midi will use fewer system resources and be quicker to set up.

Very ture. I was meaning if you are already using LP within your setup, so as to point out additional apps are not required in that scenario

True dat, I imagine the two go well together for some situations. I still haven't really found a need for LP with my 'dump it to daw' ethic but I haven't ruled it out.

AudioGus

@kobamoto said:

@AudioGus said:

@kobamoto said:
oh btw I know everybody wants to be able to do allot of different things to the individual slices in Blocs wave like pitching and the usual suspects etc... but one thing I've never seen in a slicer is the ability to modulate the slices individually in interesting ways... It would be so fresh if after slicing a loop we could glitch out and modulate each slice in a different way.... some very creative beatwork would come out of that, especially combined with the ability to manipulate the grid......

thank you guys for being so open to ideas and responsive, much appreciated .

step effects like egoist or effectrix would be amazing.

that sounds good or motion sequencing of modulation fx params, important thing is that each slice can do it's own thing , multiply this by all of the samples you can run at once in blocs wave and dayaaaam!

Yum yum, some automation recording x/y pad fx action would be the most bombedly.

iamspoon

@AndyPlankton @AudioGus Cheers, but to clarify I'd like to just press play on my host software (Cubase 7 PC) and have Blocs Wave start and tempo sync just like the other machines in my studio.
Or perhaps even use a drum machine as MIDI clock master connected to iPad and interface via MIDI cables.
In summary, bah humbug Link

AndyPlankton

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@iamspoon said:
copy of my luddite moaning from previous Blocs thread

Great App, but still no MIDI clock sync from a company with such a MIDI hardware heritage is bewildering to me.
The curse of Ableton Link?
(I know 3rd party Apps can be used as a workaround but I find that a PITA to set up each time and still no start/stop with PC DAW)

'Link to Midi' isnt a PIA to use at all. Not sure how complex you want your setup though.

If you use the Launchpad app and have the MIDI Sync Out IAP it is even easier, just enable both Link and MIDI Sync output and press the play button

That is pretty much the same thing but Link to Midi will use fewer system resources and be quicker to set up.

Very ture. I was meaning if you are already using LP within your setup, so as to point out additional apps are not required in that scenario

True dat, I imagine the two go well together for some situations. I still haven't really found a need for LP with my 'dump it to daw' ethic but I haven't ruled it out.

I tend to work in one of many ways at any one time lol.....one of my favourite and most productive setups is using Launchpad, Blocs and Circuit together.

I Jam on circuit, record into blocs, then when I have a usable section or two in blocs I push then into launchpad and then carry on making more scenes. I tend to push them into launchpad for the FX and easier triggering by using the LP hardware.
The three really do work very well together.

AudioGus

@iamspoon said:
@AndyPlankton @AudioGus Cheers, but to clarify I'd like to just press play on my host software (Cubase 7 PC) and have Blocs Wave start and tempo sync just like the other machines in my studio.
Or perhaps even use a drum machine as MIDI clock master connected to iPad and interface via MIDI cables.
In summary, bah humbug Link

Olde schoole!

AudioGus

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@iamspoon said:
copy of my luddite moaning from previous Blocs thread

Great App, but still no MIDI clock sync from a company with such a MIDI hardware heritage is bewildering to me.
The curse of Ableton Link?
(I know 3rd party Apps can be used as a workaround but I find that a PITA to set up each time and still no start/stop with PC DAW)

'Link to Midi' isnt a PIA to use at all. Not sure how complex you want your setup though.

If you use the Launchpad app and have the MIDI Sync Out IAP it is even easier, just enable both Link and MIDI Sync output and press the play button

That is pretty much the same thing but Link to Midi will use fewer system resources and be quicker to set up.

Very ture. I was meaning if you are already using LP within your setup, so as to point out additional apps are not required in that scenario

True dat, I imagine the two go well together for some situations. I still haven't really found a need for LP with my 'dump it to daw' ethic but I haven't ruled it out.

I tend to work in one of many ways at any one time lol.....one of my favourite and most productive setups is using Launchpad, Blocs and Circuit together.

I Jam on circuit, record into blocs, then when I have a usable section or two in blocs I push then into launchpad and then carry on making more scenes. I tend to push them into launchpad for the FX and easier triggering by using the LP hardware.
The three really do work very well together.

So is your intention live performing or using LP for working on recorded tracks?

AndyPlankton

@iamspoon said:
@AndyPlankton @AudioGus Cheers, but to clarify I'd like to just press play on my host software (Cubase 7 PC) and have Blocs Wave start and tempo sync just like the other machines in my studio.
Or perhaps even use a drum machine as MIDI clock master connected to iPad and interface via MIDI cables.
In summary, bah humbug Link

LMAO...I get where you are coming from, but the bad news is that MIDI Clock suffers from a lot of jitter and is not ideal for using as a sync source for samples, and link doesn't support start/stop...so in reality neither is good enough for what you want.

AndyPlankton

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@iamspoon said:
copy of my luddite moaning from previous Blocs thread

Great App, but still no MIDI clock sync from a company with such a MIDI hardware heritage is bewildering to me.
The curse of Ableton Link?
(I know 3rd party Apps can be used as a workaround but I find that a PITA to set up each time and still no start/stop with PC DAW)

'Link to Midi' isnt a PIA to use at all. Not sure how complex you want your setup though.

If you use the Launchpad app and have the MIDI Sync Out IAP it is even easier, just enable both Link and MIDI Sync output and press the play button

That is pretty much the same thing but Link to Midi will use fewer system resources and be quicker to set up.

Very ture. I was meaning if you are already using LP within your setup, so as to point out additional apps are not required in that scenario

True dat, I imagine the two go well together for some situations. I still haven't really found a need for LP with my 'dump it to daw' ethic but I haven't ruled it out.

I tend to work in one of many ways at any one time lol.....one of my favourite and most productive setups is using Launchpad, Blocs and Circuit together.

I Jam on circuit, record into blocs, then when I have a usable section or two in blocs I push then into launchpad and then carry on making more scenes. I tend to push them into launchpad for the FX and easier triggering by using the LP hardware.
The three really do work very well together.

So is your intention live performing or using LP for working on recorded tracks?

A bit if both, I am aiming ultimately for recorded and DAW produced tracks for release that I can play live on Circuit/Launchpad/Guitar/Keyboard which is why I end up working in so many different ways.
In my head I release a track and people will hear it and want to see it live.....In reality I release a track, about 5 people listen to it, and I play it live to myself LOL
But I must say, I have a damn good time doing it

For the first time this weekend I actually recorded what i was playing live in AUM, just to test it and see how it went, using Circuit and LP with one of the LP packs.....admittedly most of the sounds are from the sound pack because I was getting drunk and just wanted to 'play' but this is a snippet of the sort of thing that comes out, this was literally play a couple of loops in LP, setup the drum pattern on circuit, and then just start messing about, this was the first take and took about 10 mins to get going.

iamspoon

Despite its limitations, I think MIDI clock is tight enough with decent hardware and if well implemented within the App. But if I'm in the minority then fair enough. @blocsxnovation please consider this

AndyPlankton

@iamspoon said:
Despite its limitations, I think MIDI clock is tight enough with decent hardware and if well implemented within the App. But if I'm in the minority then fair enough. @blocsxnovation please consider this

Not in the minority at all, A lot of people wish there was a really good workable solution to this. I think the best thing at the moment is to use Link for the sync, and MIDI to control start stop of playback...best of both worlds

dave_delongchamp

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@iamspoon said:
copy of my luddite moaning from previous Blocs thread

Great App, but still no MIDI clock sync from a company with such a MIDI hardware heritage is bewildering to me.
The curse of Ableton Link?
(I know 3rd party Apps can be used as a workaround but I find that a PITA to set up each time and still no start/stop with PC DAW)

'Link to Midi' isnt a PIA to use at all. Not sure how complex you want your setup though.

If you use the Launchpad app and have the MIDI Sync Out IAP it is even easier, just enable both Link and MIDI Sync output and press the play button

That is pretty much the same thing but Link to Midi will use fewer system resources and be quicker to set up.

Very ture. I was meaning if you are already using LP within your setup, so as to point out additional apps are not required in that scenario

True dat, I imagine the two go well together for some situations. I still haven't really found a need for LP with my 'dump it to daw' ethic but I haven't ruled it out.

I tend to work in one of many ways at any one time lol.....one of my favourite and most productive setups is using Launchpad, Blocs and Circuit together.

I Jam on circuit, record into blocs, then when I have a usable section or two in blocs I push then into launchpad and then carry on making more scenes. I tend to push them into launchpad for the FX and easier triggering by using the LP hardware.
The three really do work very well together.

@blocxnovation I have a similar workflow to this, my requests are:

1. MIDI Compatibility of Blocswave with Novation hardware
2. A version of Circuit Components that works on iPad, it would be great to load samples/sounds right from my iPad directly to the Circuit
3. +1 for warping/markers/etc in Blocswave

AudioGus

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@AndyPlankton said:

@AudioGus said:

@iamspoon said:
copy of my luddite moaning from previous Blocs thread

Great App, but still no MIDI clock sync from a company with such a MIDI hardware heritage is bewildering to me.
The curse of Ableton Link?
(I know 3rd party Apps can be used as a workaround but I find that a PITA to set up each time and still no start/stop with PC DAW)

'Link to Midi' isnt a PIA to use at all. Not sure how complex you want your setup though.

If you use the Launchpad app and have the MIDI Sync Out IAP it is even easier, just enable both Link and MIDI Sync output and press the play button

That is pretty much the same thing but Link to Midi will use fewer system resources and be quicker to set up.

Very ture. I was meaning if you are already using LP within your setup, so as to point out additional apps are not required in that scenario

True dat, I imagine the two go well together for some situations. I still haven't really found a need for LP with my 'dump it to daw' ethic but I haven't ruled it out.

I tend to work in one of many ways at any one time lol.....one of my favourite and most productive setups is using Launchpad, Blocs and Circuit together.

I Jam on circuit, record into blocs, then when I have a usable section or two in blocs I push then into launchpad and then carry on making more scenes. I tend to push them into launchpad for the FX and easier triggering by using the LP hardware.
The three really do work very well together.

So is your intention live performing or using LP for working on recorded tracks?

A bit if both, I am aiming ultimately for recorded and DAW produced tracks for release that I can play live on Circuit/Launchpad/Guitar/Keyboard which is why I end up working in so many different ways.
In my head I release a track and people will hear it and want to see it live.....In reality I release a track, about 5 people listen to it, and I play it live to myself LOL
But I must say, I have a damn good time doing it

For the first time this weekend I actually recorded what i was playing live in AUM, just to test it and see how it went, using Circuit and LP with one of the LP packs.....admittedly most of the sounds are from the sound pack because I was getting drunk and just wanted to 'play' but this is a snippet of the sort of thing that comes out, this was literally play a couple of loops in LP, setup the drum pattern on circuit, and then just start messing about, this was the first take and took about 10 mins to get going.

Cool man, I love the vibe of that track!

AndyPlankton

@AudioGus said:

Cool man, I love the vibe of that track!

Cheers AG - I'm a sucker for that kind of sound

ToMess

This is a great update. Keep up the good work guys

Nkersov

Good work, chaps. Is the big update still in schedule for the end of this month?

NTKK

8 outputs in iaa/audiobus would do it for me.

[Deleted User]

A nice mixer page with panning and all the trimmings oh and with cool metering per channel sort of like that of Hook mixer section.

AlleycatLA

Hmmm... So theoretically I can save a blocs project as ableton into audioshare, then just import the samples from the ableton sample folder into Launchpad. Should work I think! Going to have to try this when I get home...

Jose_Bee

Amazing thanks

JohnnyGoodyear

@kobamoto said:

@blocsxnovation said:

@kobamoto said:
Thank you for the update, it hasn't reached the states yet but I have a question, does blocs wave now allow you to import audio from your iTunes music library, also allowing you to first audition the audio you want to import before import in this update?

Hey Kobamoto, out of interest, once imported from itunes, what would be your next steps with the audio? I presume you'd want a bunch of cool stuff like, beat detection, warping, move start marker off the grid, etc. Any ideas of the next steps would be much appreciated.

_exactly _, beat detection, warping, start marker off the grid, destructive sample truncation if that's not already there.
I'm not sure if you've ever used the app called Strom but it's import method doesn't allow you to import a whole track from your iTunes library, only I think about 20 secs but the important part is the way it does it, you click on the itunes library icon, then the app presents you with a loop bracket, then you can scroll across your track with the loop bracket and crop the part that you want to import into the app....... I would love for blocs to do it like that, that way you wouldn't have to import a whole track unless you wanted to and just import the part you auditioned and wanted.

Very irritated that Strom is an instacrash for me on 10. Not optimistic about it coming back around....

kobamoto

is it coming back around?.... that guy said there was going to be lots of updates etc... and that it was good even if you weren't an elektron user but personally I think the app was a cash grab. I still use it though as it does what it does do well but I'm not on os 10 but yeah, I didn't appreciate the neglect.

Jose_Bee

Anyone else having issues with uploading to Dropbox?