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Cubasis pros and cons
if you had to talk me out of buying Cubasis which cons would you mention?
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Hmmm, depends on what you want to do with it I think.
good call
mostly light audio work and more midi work with iaa synths. loop recording is a must (which kicks out Auria Pro)...
1: you missed the recent sale
2: Freeze is unreliable.
48ppq. It certainly has a lot of features, though.
One of the big cons is that you may end up feeling guilty for having access to such great tools and instruments in a mobile iOS DAW. ;^)
Even with the mentioned issues and annoyances in other forum-threads regarding Cubasis it is the iOS DAW that 'works for me' and knowing that the developers are aware of them and are hard at work on fixing them makes me feel safe that in due time they will be 'corrected'.
As with everything iOS there are many work-around for the limitations we face...
Cubasis is the appropriate app for your workflow IMO. Since version 2, it's a pretty decent box, with a pretty nice lightweight synth (Micrologue) and very easy to learn. For the heavy lifting, though, you will need Auria.
If you have a big iPad Pro, it's still not redesigned for the bigger screen.
Sloppy midi timing, I've found when a few tracks get going. No multiple lanes for midi tracks, unless I missed them. No sub groups in the mixer. That horrible thing on the piano roll editor where you have to place your finger over the note to move it, rendering it invisible. Why no one has nicked nanostudio's handles idea is beyond me.
Having said that, it's not all bad and it has midi loop recording, unlike Auria. Somebody made a boo boo there
It's solid, but short of spectacular. In other words it's probably not going to wow you in any way. That may not be a con, but it's something worth noting.
+1, hate that it's not redesigned at least for basic compatibility with the bigger screen.
d'oh!
i'm always late to the party...
I used to like it a lot. It sits somewhere between GarageBand and Auria. I'd just get those.
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Yeah, me too. Great as Auria Pro is, superior in some way, it's Cubasis that works best for me. Even if I still can't find a way to turn off the automatic L&R snapping.
For me it only 'snaps' the L & R locators when I tap'n'hold an event?!
I actually like the way it makes it easy to loop an 'event' but sure, I would love to see options for 'locator presets' so I could define multiple regions (Intro Chorus, Bridge etc.) to loop at will or at least just 'temporarily' set the locators and then 'reset' them to the entire length of the 'song' and well separate grid setting for the 'arranger' and 'note-editor' would be sweet too...
But overall even with the small issues I enjoy using Cubasis.
Probably not surprising to most that this sums up my take as well. I think it's a very good app but the reality is I really only use it because it has a couple of marquee/modern iOS features Nanostudio lacks. If NS2 has those features, I'll never look back. That said, I won't feel like Cubasis was money wasted—it does exactly that for which I bought it (which is very similar to your original question).
This has been done to death, I can just cut and paste my previous replies...
Focusing on the good: very nice internal synth and sampler, very clear and easy routing for AB/IAA/AU (easier to set up than Auria). Nice UI overall. Great automation editing.
Not so good: all aspects of the mixer - no aux sends, no busses, no grouping. Doing a complex mix with lots of tracks is a bit of a pain, even the faders are too small to be really accurate. And audio editing is primitive, no crossfades! Which means that blending between regions is really hard to do, so the whole idea that you going to be able to do comps is moot anyway.
...but every audio-clip has options for linear fade in & out(drag top left & right handle to adjust fade in & out) and the audio-events can be layered/overlapped...
Yes, this topic has been done to death indeed. My advice is to get them both and make your own mind up.
Not quite the same
It's actually a fairly startling omission, but anyway I'm sure they will add it one day.
No doubt about that and I bet @LFS and his team are hard at work to bring us even more goodies
I think one of the best things about Cubasis is its directness and ease-of-use, you can open it up and start working straight away, whereas Auria requires a commitment of time to really get to grips with, which only makes sense if Auria-specific features are really important to your workflow, and for many people they're not worth the additional complexity.
One con is that it will not always listen to midi in/out and sometimes you have to use midibridge to create a connection (Samplr). Without cubasis,audiobus and audioshare, the ipad feels useless for me personal. Cubasis also works great using ios10.
Yes, that's what I meant. But when I'm trying to tap and hold something to move it, such as linking up audio files, I really don't want to have to drag the L&R locators out again to either end of the piece to hear it. Every damn time.
A minor irritant, though. Cubasis is a fantastic app. I find it so much more intuitive than Auria Pro.
did some more noodling with Gadget - somehow this is the most appealing midi part to me. what a shame it's a closed system and it doesn't do audio within the app...
in theory Auria Pro is the most advanced app, but it's lacking loop recording (which i rely on) and feels sluggish even with a bare bone project...
one of my main cons with Cubasis is the undo - as it stops playback...
Cubasis interface is very engaging for me. Simple to set up. Great graphics on the synth and most everything else. I wish i could resize the tracks though. I had bailed to focus on auria mostly due to group busses but on my latest tracks (which had no instruments only bounces from instruments in cubasis) i had to increase latency to halfway. Didn't really go crazy on effects either. So what auria promised to me , pro mixing, doesn't seem like it will work out. Gonna be hitting that wall a lot if more stuff is used. (Ipad pro 12.9). Unless i use it for a small acoustic mix or aomething like that. Few channels etc.
Going back to ableton for final edits and mixing. In this case cubasis (and my lovely gadget) make more sense for production.
Cubasis 2.0 is also sluggish in bigger projects (swiping/zooming in the arranger screen).It was better in the older version (though not perfect) and i hope they can improve it again.
Auria can easily mix 40 plus tracks with no freezing, and on an Air 2 or better you should comfortably be able to run 25 to 30 native plugins without freezing tracks. The key is obviously to set the latency up to 4096 at the mix stage, but there is no reason not to.
Using AU is a different matter, but they seem to be considerably more CPU hungry than the native plugins.
I second that, because my last SOTMC song needed 42 tracks, which Auria handled without issues on my Pro 9.7"