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  • @lala said:
    Pure synth sounds are just to dry and unnatural

    I thought they're supposed to

    And analog synths without fx processing can sound very poor & boring
    But the right sound with the right eq and the right fx and the sun starts to shine.

    I absolutely love me a good fat raw wave. The first thing I do when I get through presets is to strip them off the effects other than eq and compressor.

  • Yeah when your break it all down, it is kind of disappointing to realize there's only so many ways to affect audio, and that the stuff that seems super fancy is often simpler processes combined together or that the same results can be gotten with less fuss. But the good news is, you can now experiment and have fun within those parameters!

  • @supadom said:

    @lala said:
    Pure synth sounds are just to dry and unnatural

    I thought they're supposed to

    Yes, but a dry sound is a dry sound
    Can be very unpleasant

  • @lala said:

    @supadom said:

    @lala said:
    Pure synth sounds are just to dry and unnatural

    I thought they're supposed to

    Yes, but a dry sound is a dry sound
    Can be very unpleasant

    Creamy detuned saw, mmmmmmmmm....

  • edited November 2016

    I was more thinking like the most absurd noise becomes bareable beded in mild clouds of reverb ... :D

  • edited November 2016

    @lala said:
    I was more thinking like the most absurd noise becomes bareable beded in mild clouds of reverb ... :D

    E.g. my singing voice

  • @Littlewoodg said:

    @lala said:
    I was more thinking like the most absurd noise becomes bareable beded in mild clouds of reverb ... :D

    E.g. my singing voice

    :D jeez, itd take a miracle fore my singing voice to become bareable :o :/

  • @lala said:
    I was more thinking like the most absurd noise becomes bareable beded in mild clouds of reverb ... :D

    A nod to Guitar? ;)

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Shriekback. Wow. Long time.

    Was thinking the very same about Blancmange. Thanks for linking that live version. Very great.

  • @syrupcore said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Shriekback. Wow. Long time.

    Was thinking the very same about Blancmange. Thanks for linking that live version. Very great.

    Do you guys (he says waving his scarecrow arm in the face of the whole nation) have blancmange? Never seem to have come across it here, whereas it was the working class dessert staple of every tea at a stern auntie's house and endless school lunches (wherein the object, for it was a single item, always rocked in its terrible pink mass).

  • Not me. The word started and ended with the band for me.

  • @syrupcore said:
    Not me. The word started and ended with the band for me.

    This is mostly right, but its correlation to vanilla pudding in the US is most certainly not what we got at school:

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    ...

    Do you guys (he says waving his scarecrow arm in the face of the whole nation) have blancmange? Never seem to have come across it here, whereas it was the working class dessert staple of every tea at a stern auntie's house and endless school lunches (wherein the object, for it was a single item, always rocked in its terrible pink mass).

    Had it as a kid. Only at parties though.

    It was like tough jelly, usually rabbit shaped.

  • Had something similar in the uk ... angel delight ! Was a powder mixed with cold milk and left to stand a while ... loved it as a kid :)

  • What do you experts think of the sound of the Arturia Jup-8 V plug-in, which is currently on Black Friday sale for 50% off? ($74)

    http://www.pluginboutique.com/product/1-Instruments/4-Synth/633-Jup-8-V

  • JesJes
    edited November 2016

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Not me. The word started and ended with the band for me.

    This is mostly right, but its correlation to vanilla pudding in the US is most certainly not what we got at school:

    My mum made a mean blancmange..perhaps the one above is a 'rosemange' ?

    Here is something to chew on for aspiring Jupiter 8 owners http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Roland-Jupiter-8-/162273418585?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=UFJ2UqJq%2BGfCEPqDJNeoGvK%2FfFY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

  • @Reid said:
    What do you experts think of the sound of the Arturia Jup-8 V plug-in, which is currently on Black Friday sale for 50% off? ($74)

    http://www.pluginboutique.com/product/1-Instruments/4-Synth/633-Jup-8-V

    I think it's absolutely boss. Sad I don't use my computer enough to utilize it! Be aware that once or twice every V collection product cycle, you can get the whole bundle for $200-$300. I pinched the last version at $200.

  • encenc
    edited November 2016

    @Reid said:
    What do you experts think of the sound of the Arturia Jup-8 V plug-in, which is currently on Black Friday sale for 50% off? ($74)

    http://www.pluginboutique.com/product/1-Instruments/4-Synth/633-Jup-8-V

    As a vst in cubase the arturia 8v tended to host more crashes than the m25 on my PC :/

  • edited April 2018

    Why is Roland lagging so behind on apps? Apparently, they don’t have a sizable mobile IT team

  • @powerobject said:
    Why is Roland lagging so behind on apps? Apparently, they don’t have a sizable IT team

    https://www.rolandcloud.com

    Apps might just no relevant market to them yet.

  • As a compete guess, I’d say that they rely on their hardware to see them through. Certainly, they’ve got a reputation for great hardware: why sully it with the possibility of creating average/bad software?

  • @Longskatedeath said:
    As a compete guess, I’d say that they rely on their hardware to see them through. Certainly, they’ve got a reputation for great hardware: why sully it with the possibility of creating average/bad software?

    Maybe but Moog does well....

  • @Cib said:

    @Longskatedeath said:
    As a compete guess, I’d say that they rely on their hardware to see them through. Certainly, they’ve got a reputation for great hardware: why sully it with the possibility of creating average/bad software?

    Maybe but Moog does well....

    True, but Moog has good apps, and has been making them for a while. Does it make sense for Roland to rock their own boat?

    (Ultimately, I would love for them to start making apps. I just see little current cause for them to do so)

  • edited April 2018

    Heck, they could launch their Integra-7 as an iPhone/iPad app. So many mobile musicians would use it rather than carrying around real gear. They have and own the legendary sounds - they just have to build an app interface for it.

  • If they did something like Gadget, or AU effects, it could be really cool without necessarily cutting into their hardware sales.
    It seemed like they were clearing the way for their own legendary hardware apps when they shut down apps like ReBirth for unlicensed copying. But they seem like they are doing the apps embedded in a hardware shell or something. I am not entirely sure as I don’t keep up on hardware much, but I remember Roland releasing what appeared to be re-issues of classic synths, but they just looked that way on the outside, with an emulation hiding inside. Of course, the haters were hating. :D

  • @enc said:
    Ever since I was a kid I wanted a Roland Jupiter 8. Its up there with the other leg ends … but, without question the JP8 is the Holy grail of synths… TBH, ive never played one (never even touched one) but i remember Blancmange performing Blind Vision live on The tube like it was yesterday.... Stephen Luscombe's Jupiter 8 B) B) B)

    With the JP8's commanding upwards of £10k im unlikely to ever own one. I had a Juno 60 back in the 90's and was in a band with a guy who had a 106 (Juno not Peugeot) but still hankered after the Holy grail …

    Late last year Roland put out the word it would be releasing a "boutique" range and the JP8 was going to be the flagship of the range .... could thit be my chance of a sniff.... of the Holy grail :o :) well i waited.... and waited .... and today i called into PMT music in Manchester with the full intention of buying a boutique JP-08 ... i waited ages while a staff member was free to set up a demo machine for me to tinker with (killing time on a Roland JDXi which incidentally is a cracking little synth for the money)
    So finally i got my hands on the Jp-08 and First impressions were good. Build quality is superb, the unit is weighty and all the knobs and sliders have a feel good factor. Its tiny ...even smaller than i was expecting! the sliders are very small but being used to music apps on iPhone and iPad ... manageable. So far so good.
    Then I started to run through the presets and tinker with the knobs and sliders and that's when the disappointment started to set in. where were the deep, lush, warm string pads and chunky, sub bass patches ? this thing is so ordinary it beggars belief.. i guess when we hear a JP8 on record its put through a myriad of FX processors to achieve "that" sound. Despite listening through a pair of KRK Vxt 8 monitors with ample bottom end the JP-08 sounded bland.
    I guess we are spoil't by endless ios apps swathed in reverb and delays ...

    BTW, im not suggesting the JP-08 is going to sound as good as the real thing but in _some _comparison reviews on Youtube it comes pretty close.

    few of my favorite Jupiter 8 moments

    Blancmange live on The Tube 1982

    Shreikback Faded Flowers

    Shriekback Midnight Maps

    Howard Jones Hide and Seek extended mix

    This post is a perfect example why some of us old codgers who used to have our own project studios full of hardware back in the old days feel like we have it so good now on a phone or a tablet! :wink:

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Shriekback. Wow. Long time.

    I love Shriekback! Great band!!

  • @syrupcore said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Shriekback. Wow. Long time.

    Was thinking the very same about Blancmange. Thanks for linking that live version. Very great.

    Yep!! I love all of these old new wave / alternative acts!!

  • Ever since I was a kid I too wanted a JP8, I played with them a few times and was in love.
    Later bought a JP6, Juno 106, hoping to get "near" the JP8 - and they do not come close.
    The only thing that does get close to that special sound IMO - is a JX3P
    (with the kiwi mod)
    One day they too will be unaffordable

  • I had a Juno 106 and a DX27 (Rack mount DX7) in a band in the 90’s. The Juno had a brilliant chorus effect built in which fattened up the sound but still needed reverb & delay to big it up more. Not sure anything could save the DX though, it always sounded harsh and thin whatever I did.

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