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What is the Best Looper in Your Opinion and why? Loopers as in Loopy HD etc...

which one is the best?

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  • Blocs wave because nice gui and especially the fact that when you start to record, the count down is the end of the other loops, so it really helps you to get into the groove, and you can start playing from there to get it looping more seamlessly. Also it has some nice drum loops to jam with, they do cost a bit, but are worth it imo, and i think they ar eon sale atm. I got loopy hd as a freebie some day, but never liked its interface.

  • @kobamoto said:
    which one is the best?

    Also interested, only today Group the Loop and Quantiloop in sale. Anyone working with these?

  • i started with Loopy and have used it lots and love it. it's really great. Great for recording loops, midi sync - I think the interface is quite great really - simple and elegant.

    But since Blocs Wave has developed as an app over the updates it's probably overtaken Loopy as far as useage goes on my ipad. (...though I wouldn't be surprised if Loopy Masterpiece overtakes Blocs as my favourite once it's finally released)

  • Loopy is the best for live looping, although Group the Loop is gaining fast... GTL is missing small but important things in live situation: eg, count-in loop mute/unmute, MIDI binding for play next/prrvious group... And if Jack included tempo changes for groups? That would be a killer feature!

    Still, Loopy is my workhorse live.

  • Agree with the GTL to Loopy comparisons. But slightly OT. Has anyone been to the Loopy forum the last couple of days? Looks scaled back and @ Michael has been uncharacteristicly quiet lately.

  • Oh, an addendum to my last post. Quantiloop looks tempting at 4.99 US in part because of the familiar UI and auto record. Appears to behave like the hardware pedals a lot of us are used to.

  • edited November 2016

    @Ben said:
    Oh, an addendum to my last post. Quantiloop looks tempting at 4.99 US in part because of the familiar UI and auto record. Appears to behave like the hardware pedals a lot of us are used to.

    Problem is that there are hardly any reviews or videos of this app except fom the dev himself.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHJSAh_q4YLQd0-_L_GbGyA

  • Loopersonic is super fresh, I love the tempo changing slider so I can speed up my loop and add in a melody, then slow it back down to original speed and I've got a fat bassline. I really dig Everests pitch keyboard and loop length pinch functions.

    I've used loopy the most, but right now focusing on loopersonic , GTL and Everest. I do not use a midi controller just the screen itself, so dunno bout any MIDI functions.

  • edited November 2016

    Loopy still for me. If you're intending on chopping the loops, blocs wave obviously.

    And with loopy, it automatically goes to the next empty slot when you hit record so when I use it, I'm pretty much only having to use the app I'm recording and the Audiobus bar. Makes for a smooth flow

  • I guess I'm looking for the best one for looping with my hardware synth, that really analyzes audio well, maybe has the option to only start recording when it receives audio, makes it super easy to layer, combine, and resample?

  • edited November 2016

    @kobamoto said:
    I guess I'm looking for the best one for looping with my hardware synth, that really analyzes audio well, maybe has the option to only start recording when it receives audio, makes it super easy to layer, combine, and resample?

    I haven't used the other looper options enough to offer any sort of meaningful comparison so I wont bother. I can tell you a few things about Loopy though.

    Loopy doesn't offer resampling within the app. It can be done pretty easily via AB if you can wrap your head around the individual loop output icons. :) It is dirt simple to combine loops within the app though.

    Loopy has really mature MIDI control options. Lots of options including sets of actions like "Record, then mute, then record next track". It also has MIDI control settings per controller. So with your army of MIDI controllers, you might have one setup to do one set of things and another set up to do something else. Maybe you use a simple 4 button controller live but have a 32 button controller in the studio.... It also supports bluetooth QWERTY keyboards. Also, tap tempo via MIDI controller. Boss.

    Loopy's MIDI clock remains (along with Funkbox) the 'clock to beat'. If something isn't syncing properly with Loopy, I assume it's the other app. Syncs with hardware like a champ.

    Loopy allows you to adjust the loop length as well as see a visual of the loop position right on the AB bar when in other apps. Even if you're using an external MIDI controller to control everything, having that loop position indicator visible from within other apps is really really helpful.

    No grouping of loops.

    There is no chopping or loop editing. You can adjust the loop start position with a simple two finger gesture but, particularly with longer loops, it's not very high fidelity (no zooming).

    Very great and surpisingly fast time stretching but no pitch shifting. Also has a very wide tempo range. On that note, here's a thing I did with it after some thread here about super time stretching on iOS. Think it was recorded at 400bpm and then I set Loopy to something like 40bpm to stretch it out.

    Again, not saying Loopy is the best or anything like that because I really don't know.

  • Found the original thread. https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/13049/is-there-anything-better-than-audiostretch-on-ios-for-slowing-down-audio-for-ambient-audioscapes

    And my comment at the time:

    Had to try it. Last 12 seconds of U smile, recorded at 400bpm in Loopy HD from my laptop speaker into the iPhone mic (I'm high-fi like that). Slowed it down to 50bpm (=800% slower), loaded into AUM with a LPF + Push + Dub + Space and... not bad for an app designed for looping and a decidedly lo-fi experiment, eh? Definitely not nearly as 'clean' as the paul stretch algorithm but it works. The digital distortion is me working quickly, not loopy. The LPF is in there to roll off some of the stretching artifacts.

  • @syrupcore said:
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    i really like this, and thanks for the loopy info

  • I have been using loopyHD for years and it's solid as rock but I need something like group playlist feature of GTL so I jumped into it fast. It's useful for song structuration and live performing as arranger. Fx and interace are clever but I still have to mesh a bit more (I bought it 2 days ago and I'm also enjoying a lot blocs wave) so...
    Meanwhile Loopy Masterpiece arrives it could be possible to do multiple on/off with midiflow and loopyHD but you could do it straightforward with GTL.

    It's a matter of workflow and focus as usual.

  • Loopy allows you to adjust the loop length as well as see a visual of the loop position right on the AB bar when in other apps. Even if you're using an external MIDI controller to control everything, having that loop position indicator visible from within other apps is really really helpful.

    Just to be clear on this one, you can adjust the loop length from the AB bar for the loop about to be recorded, not existing loops.

  • edited November 2016

    @syrupcore said:

    @kobamoto said:
    I guess I'm looking for the best one for looping with my hardware synth, that really analyzes audio well, maybe has the option to only start recording when it receives audio, makes it super easy to layer, combine, and resample?

    I haven't used the other looper options enough to offer any sort of meaningful comparison so I wont bother. I can tell you a few things about Loopy though.

    Loopy doesn't offer resampling within the app. It can be done pretty easily via AB if you can wrap your head around the individual loop output icons. :) It is dirt simple to combine loops within the app though.

    Loopy has really mature MIDI control options. Lots of options including sets of actions like "Record, then mute, then record next track". It also has MIDI control settings per controller. So with your army of MIDI controllers, you might have one setup to do one set of things and another set up to do something else. Maybe you use a simple 4 button controller live but have a 32 button controller in the studio.... It also supports bluetooth QWERTY keyboards. Also, tap tempo via MIDI controller. Boss.

    Loopy's MIDI clock remains (along with Funkbox) the 'clock to beat'. If something isn't syncing properly with Loopy, I assume it's the other app. Syncs with hardware like a champ.

    Loopy allows you to adjust the loop length as well as see a visual of the loop position right on the AB bar when in other apps. Even if you're using an external MIDI controller to control everything, having that loop position indicator visible from within other apps is really really helpful.

    No grouping of loops.

    There is no chopping or loop editing. You can adjust the loop start position with a simple two finger gesture but, particularly with longer loops, it's not very high fidelity (no zooming).

    Very great and surpisingly fast time stretching but no pitch shifting. Also has a very wide tempo range. On that note, here's a thing I did with it after some thread here about super time stretching on iOS. Think it was recorded at 400bpm and then I set Loopy to something like 40bpm to stretch it out.

    Again, not saying Loopy is the best or anything like that because I really don't know.

    Liked this then, like it now.

    As for Loopy, lots of good things of course, but I really like being able to (simply) merge tracks....helps the poor player (me) out a lot...hope @Michael's OK. That's how rumors get started. I have the usual long list of stuff I think I'm waiting for but I'd give most of them up for Masterpiece (and a quiet hour with the next NS....)

  • @JohnnyGoodyear same. I almost bought GTL yesterday but figure I might as well wait for Loopy 2(3?) since LoopyHD does most of what I want/need already.

  • I resisted the interface for a long time, but loopy hd is reliable, and slaves to external midi clock so smoothly, it is what i use. No warbles or time stretching ickiness from jitter, a lot of under the hood work must have went into it, to make it slave to questionable clock sources so well.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear based on the questions that Michael asks on the Loopy forum (even in the last day), v3 could be an epiphany. Says the junkie lookin for a fix...

  • Loopy for me. Tried to like Blocs Wave, but prefer Loopy. The visual cue for where you are in the loop on the AB toolbar is the killer feature, makes the recording process so much easier.

    Blocs can do more, what with the slicing etc, but that stuff isn't useful to me personally. Being able to stay in time and know when the loop will start recording is.

  • With prices the way they are right now, why not pick up tools for the occasion;

    Loopy HD - Live recording.

    Blocs Wave - Sequencing samples and creating.

  • @lukesleepwalker said:
    @JohnnyGoodyear based on the questions that Michael asks on the Loopy forum (even in the last day), v3 could be an epiphany. Says the junkie lookin for a fix...

    I was sold from that first video when he was still young, fresh-faced and tousle-haired. Not giving up now.

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  • Bruce Willis :)
    Otherwise.....where is the Loopy masterpiece?

  • IMHO Quantiloop Pro as loved it’s GUI and setup, personally couldn’t get my head around midi bindings in Loopy HD.

  • Ostinator for live overdub looping, especially for ambient stuff.

  • @Jumpercollins said:
    IMHO Quantiloop Pro as loved it’s GUI and setup, personally couldn’t get my head around midi bindings in Loopy HD.

    The trouble with Quantiloop seems to be the same one that plagues every looper, you need a way to trigger it. While there have been developments such as count-in and record upon sound that mean you can keep your fingers on the instrument, it just doesn't seem to be as easy to do as in Loopy... that lovely orange signal coming around the curve to record/overdub is just so intuitive. So Quantiloop needs a pedal, it just doesn't work all that well without it... and this is an app I keep coming back to hoping to make it work because it is supposed to work dammit! :smile:

    I've tried quite a few of the loopers and I think instead of spending 5x $10 for the apps I should have bought a $50 looper pedal instead. At this point I need to save up for a Bluetooth pedal, since my guitar interface is taking up the lightning port.

  • @fprintf said:

    @Jumpercollins said:
    IMHO Quantiloop Pro as loved it’s GUI and setup, personally couldn’t get my head around midi bindings in Loopy HD.

    The trouble with Quantiloop seems to be the same one that plagues every looper, you need a way to trigger it. While there have been developments such as count-in and record upon sound that mean you can keep your fingers on the instrument, it just doesn't seem to be as easy to do as in Loopy... that lovely orange signal coming around the curve to record/overdub is just so intuitive. So Quantiloop needs a pedal, it just doesn't work all that well without it... and this is an app I keep coming back to hoping to make it work because it is supposed to work dammit! :smile:

    I've tried quite a few of the loopers and I think instead of spending 5x $10 for the apps I should have bought a $50 looper pedal instead. At this point I need to save up for a Bluetooth pedal, since my guitar interface is taking up the lightning port.

    Got a pedal the BlueBoard works great.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    Ostinator for live overdub looping, especially for ambient stuff.

    thanks I hadn't ever heard of ostinator before.

  • edited January 2018

    Don’t settle for less. Just get BM3 and/or Groove Rider GR-16 and re-sample your loops (with all the additional add-ons).

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