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Buy iMPC pro or wait?
Hi,
I love BM2 but sometimes I feel the workflow is slow. So , should I wait for BM3 or Beathawk 2 or buy it now?
Also ,are there any known bugs that I should know?
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Waiting for whats to come is way better than working with whats currently available. So I vote wait for BM3 and Beathawk 2.
Bm 2 pro 3 or impc pro , or BeatHawk?
Thats the question?
If you already have Beathawk I'd wait for the update.
I have no 'love' left for iMPC Pro...
those 3 are so different it's like apples, oranges, and pistachios, it really depends on what you want to do.
if you want pattern based sequencing with the ability to automate tempo, and if you're only working with sample based material then go with impc pro
if you want linear based sequencing and want to sequence iOS synths via midi then go bm2
if your main focus is not sequencing or sampling but your focus is sample libraries then beat hawk
Yep impc pro , i have deleted, Long Time ago..
Wait
Trust me When I say wait for Beatmaker 3 its around the corner trust MEEEE
Arturia's iSpark is still on sale. It's less expensive and 300 MB lighter than that other brand.
It's on the bus, too...
http://audiob.us/get/1023/Arturia-iSpark
Don't forget about IMachine... On its own it might seem a bit limited but if you're just making beats you've got a lot to work with in terms of sounds, plus 4 banks of either pads or keys. I find it's best to port it through Audiobus into a DAW like Cubasis. Capable on its own though, and universal, if you own an Iphone.
I'm really enjoying iSpark these days, I don't know it that well (havent looked into .wav import it does that tho yes?) but it's pretty smart and sounds great. I haven't had bad experiences with iMPC pro, I'm digging both for loop making, to feed other apps. BM2 is for me my iPhone DAW of choice, but all but forgotten on iPad. Maybe 3 will change that.
BeatHawk.
(And the new developments are taking it up several further levels of Hell Yes.)
Agreed, but they need to get it out into the world!
I'm finding it really unlikable, actually. It's the one purchase I regret from this app orgy. (Mitigated by TC11's total awesomeness.)
But tell me what I'm missing? I really like SeekBeats and ED, and if the kits were better, I'd like Patterning's sounds as much as I enjoy programming beats on it.
What's the way in on iSpark?
I fully applaud the dev(s) dialing it in as much as they have and beyond but thought it to be Ready For The World several times over even as they continue to advance the damn thing.
In terms of apps I'm clear about loving BeatHawk is crystal.
IMPC pro crashes all the time and no autosave. Even tho its a great app in theory, it just doesent deliver because of that. And the devs doesent seem to be interested on fixing it..
I think I get along well with the old school button style of sequencer, Main page (per instrument) and Seq page (all the instruments). An alternative to piano roll for drums from x0x boxes that just makes sense to me. The Seq page also sequences all the sound parameters per instruments and it's pretty easy to make the sounds evolve over the course of the sequence. As I said above I use it to make loops, and it's easy to quickly sketch a beat, shape velocity pitch pan across the sequence, and ship it out...
(havent looked into .wav import it does that tho yes?)
Yes, and AIFF, too.
BeatHawk 2 is something I look forward to!
Knowing that the developers are quite active in scanning our little corner here on the interweb most feature requests have most likely already reached them.
I mean all I asked from the 'current' Beathawk was 'Grid/Note Editor'. Basic sample editing (Normalize, Trim, Fade In/Out) and Input monitoring...
The current 'trim' just selects a portion to play back, no way to do destructive trimming to save space and cut out un-needed material.
So Yeah, maybe BeatHawk 2 will be a nice Christmas preset and since it will be a free update I might as well get some more sound-packs to show my support once released
Freudian slip?
Hehe, could be. I love presents and sometimes it's the 'preset behaviour' to expect presents
really? mine autosaves all the time, it's annoying dealing with all of those autosaved floppies
Well i lost too many samples too many times because of crashes to bother with the app anymore.
makes perfect sense I'd do the same if I had that experience, on my iPad it works flawlessly with the exception of sampling animoog via iaa.... sucks royally
I keep intermittently deleting and reinstalling impc pro cause of certain bugs or limitations, but after a while think of a different work flow with compromises to try and make it work, but failing again. I like to roll my own beats, and it's the ability to sample straight to a pad via a signal threshold from IAA which I love. It's fast and as long as you don't let it record too long, you don't have to mess with trimming in edit mode afterwards because the beginning of the file is already taken care of. I'm impessed that with drums, it doesn't miss the first transient. I'm sure line-in sampling you might tho. It also alleviates the need to sync impc with anything, no delay compensation settings, ect. I havent found any other app that does this. And if you simply cancel the sampling screen without recording, you're still able to monitor the source while banging pads to get ideas.
However, their level meters are way off. The major buzz kill for me is their mixer. It's fantastic that they leave you one slot for in the channel strip for processing via IAA. But their send/return doesn't have an option for pre/post fader. So it's impossible to get a 100% wet signal when resampling. For one example, for delays, I would like to keep the unprocessed pad panned differently to the resampled result of the fully wet result.
Another deal breaker for me, it handles AUM fine as an IAA input. But it wont play well if Gadget is in AUM, but Gadget is fine as IAA in impc pro alone without AUM.
In reality, I'm my own worse enemy, and have a hard time letting go of obsessing over "proper" recording and mixing practices. I'm having a hard time letting go of my DAW upbringing.
I hear you, for me recording/sampling knave via iaa is like a dream come true but animoog crashes before I can even finish the thought... 100% of the time... it's maddening
Any chance you've tried using Animoog for iPhone?
yes I have it but the impc pro isn't universal
I get that, but you seem particularly bent out of shape over your Animoog into iMPC Pro problems, so I thought I would suggest a workaround/alternative of sorts.
it's true but retro and moog have both acknowledged it, retros working on a cure