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Infinite Looper 2.0 beta

We're close to having Infinite Looper 2.0 ready (Aleph has all the same functionality, but in an iPhone-only format). I expect this to be available in January. New stuff...

  • iPhone now displays all six tracks. A little tight, but better than shifting left and right
  • Built-in MIDImorphosis. Pitch-to-MIDI, which you can record and loop live, or use with the step insert function on the piano roll. If you ever need to transcribe a guitar part, you're welcome. Keep your hands on the guitar, and just play the notes.
  • Detected pitches are displayed on the keyboard too. If you want to figure out a melody or bass line, and you can hum or whistle, it'll show up on the keyboard. This should cut down on the hunt-and-peck if you're trying to figure out the notes to something.
  • Import directly from MIDI files. In the piano roll, you can select a MIDI file, and drop the notes right into place.
  • Import from other Infinite Looper projects too. Similar to MIDI import; find the loop you want, and in it goes!

I've got some UI tweaks left to do, and I'll add the ability to export a single loop as a MIDI file (currently, the app exports the entire multitrack song sequence, but sometimes you might just want to grab a single loop).

I'm also switching things so that if you toggle a loop on or off, it does not change the currently selected track -- so if you're playing something on the keyboard on instrument A, you can toggle the loops for instrument B without having the keyboard assignment change.

Infinite and Aleph are both on sale right now, and the bundle for them is reduced too. And if you've bought MIDImorphosis or Voxkit, there's a bundle that lets you upgrade to Infinite at a reduced price. 2.0 has pulled in the functionality out of MIDImorphosis, and I'm planning on adding the Voxkit tricks in to 2.1. Good times, folks, good times!

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  • Good times indeed! Really looking forward to import directly from MIDI files and particularly export a single loop as a MIDI file....In the spirit of Ebenezer, please feel free to take at least Christmas morning off :)

  • Hurray! So exciting. Are we going to get the ability to jump playback to, say, the 8th bar of a 16 bar loop (or the 32nd bar of a 64 bar loop, lol) by tapping the timeline? That's my #1 desire for IL right now.

  • THANK YOOOOOU!

  • edited December 2016

    Built in midi morphisis!? HELL YEAH! @SecretBaseDesign

    Above and beyond!

  • @SecretBaseDesign said:
    We're close to having Infinite Looper 2.0 ready (Aleph has all the same functionality, but in an iPhone-only format). I expect this to be available in January. New stuff...

    • iPhone now displays all six tracks. A little tight, but better than shifting left and right
    • Built-in MIDImorphosis. Pitch-to-MIDI, which you can record and loop live, or use with the step insert function on the piano roll. If you ever need to transcribe a guitar part, you're welcome. Keep your hands on the guitar, and just play the notes.
    • Detected pitches are displayed on the keyboard too. If you want to figure out a melody or bass line, and you can hum or whistle, it'll show up on the keyboard. This should cut down on the hunt-and-peck if you're trying to figure out the notes to something.
    • Import directly from MIDI files. In the piano roll, you can select a MIDI file, and drop the notes right into place.
    • Import from other Infinite Looper projects too. Similar to MIDI import; find the loop you want, and in it goes!

    I've got some UI tweaks left to do, and I'll add the ability to export a single loop as a MIDI file (currently, the app exports the entire multitrack song sequence, but sometimes you might just want to grab a single loop).

    I'm also switching things so that if you toggle a loop on or off, it does not change the currently selected track -- so if you're playing something on the keyboard on instrument A, you can toggle the loops for instrument B without having the keyboard assignment change.

    Infinite and Aleph are both on sale right now, and the bundle for them is reduced too. And if you've bought MIDImorphosis or Voxkit, there's a bundle that lets you upgrade to Infinite at a reduced price. 2.0 has pulled in the functionality out of MIDImorphosis, and I'm planning on adding the Voxkit tricks in to 2.1. Good times, folks, good times!

    very cool!!

  • Can pitch to midi accept any AB input? Like if I had Blocs Wave linked and wanted to transcribe a loop from it in sync?

  • Looking forward to it :smiley:

  • @AudioGus said:
    Can pitch to midi accept any AB input? Like if I had Blocs Wave linked and wanted to transcribe a loop from it in sync?

    Just for a friend, right?

  • Great news! Very much looking forward to this. The Midimorphosis addition in particular sounds very appetising :)

  • @AudioGus said:
    Can pitch to midi accept any AB input? Like if I had Blocs Wave linked and wanted to transcribe a loop from it in sync?

    Not in the upcoming release, but probably in the not-too-distant-future. I'm planning out some changes for the internal audio routing, so that I can add in effects, AU, and other good stuff like that; being able to tap in to the audio pipeline anywhere to do pitch-to-MIDI is part of that work.

    Real-time pitch-to-MIDI is tricky, though -- the signal has to be clean enough that the pitch detection is possible, and there's always going to be a little bit of latency. MIDImorphosis has off-line pitch-to-MIDI as well as the real time stuff; I may add something to Infinite Looper where you can hand it a WAV file, and it'll extract MIDI from it (this avoids the latency problem, and what you can do with off-line pitch-to-MIDI is a lot better than what's possible with real-time).

  • Can I easily feed a wav into MIDImorphosis via audioshare and then spit out a midi file back to audioshare?

    If yes, then sold!

  • @SecretBaseDesign adding my vote for feeding a wav file to infinite looper for pitch to midi purposes

  • @AudioGus said:
    Can I easily feed a wav into MIDImorphosis via audioshare and then spit out a midi file back to audioshare?

    If yes, then sold!

    Yes -- it's a little clunky, but MIDImorphosis can do that. The audio needs to be relatively clean, though -- pitch detection from audio is hard, and MIDImorphosis is not anywhere close to what you can get with things like Melodyne. A few times a year, I get emails from people who want to hold up their phone at a Metallica concert, and get a transcription -- and they're really upset that my app can't do that.

    Here's an old video (holy smokes, three years ago?) showing off the off-line conversion in MM.

  • Hubba Hubba!

  • Ok, nice! Pulled the trigger on the upgrade, I love the fact that I get a discount for being a MidiMorphosis customer already. I'm certain it won't run on the iPad2 but it looks to be running on my iPhone5S just fine!

  • @fprintf said:
    Ok, nice! Pulled the trigger on the upgrade, I love the fact that I get a discount for being a MidiMorphosis customer already. I'm certain it won't run on the iPad2 but it looks to be running on my iPhone5S just fine!

    It might run on the iPad2. The thing will actually run on an iPhone4S. Just have to be careful about loading up a bunch of IAA synths on the older hardware.

  • @SecretBaseDesign said:

    @AudioGus said:
    Can pitch to midi accept any AB input? Like if I had Blocs Wave linked and wanted to transcribe a loop from it in sync?

    Not in the upcoming release, but probably in the not-too-distant-future. I'm planning out some changes for the internal audio routing, so that I can add in effects, AU, and other good stuff like that; being able to tap in to the audio pipeline anywhere to do pitch-to-MIDI is part of that work.

    Real-time pitch-to-MIDI is tricky, though -- the signal has to be clean enough that the pitch detection is possible, and there's always going to be a little bit of latency. MIDImorphosis has off-line pitch-to-MIDI as well as the real time stuff; I may add something to Infinite Looper where you can hand it a WAV file, and it'll extract MIDI from it (this avoids the latency problem, and what you can do with off-line pitch-to-MIDI is a lot better than what's possible with real-time).

    Exciting plans :)

  • edited December 2016

    Can we please get a real-time timeline indicator in the pianoroll editor ? its hard for me to use the app without it :/

    similar to Ableton, literally any Daw or modstep does in this video:-

    its pretty much the only thing keeping me from using your brilliant app.

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:
    Can we please get a real-time timeline indicator in the pianoroll editor ? its hard for me to use the app without it :/

    similar to Ableton, literally any Daw or modstep does in this video:-

    its pretty much the only thing keeping me from using your brilliant app.

    Have to agree muchly.

  • Playing Model 15 with my guitar via MIDImorphosis is very, very satisfying. B)

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:
    Can we please get a real-time timeline indicator in the pianoroll editor ? its hard for me to use the app without it :/

    Ok, will do!

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:
    Can we please get a real-time timeline indicator in the pianoroll editor ? its hard for me to use the app without it :/

    Something like this, right?

  • Pweecisely....

  • So three hours per feature request is what should be expected from devs now.

  • Something like this, right?

    Looks good to me, though I might reserve the red color for when you're recording. It's kind of strange that the play button is red when activated, actually. Blue should work fine, I should think.

  • @AudioGus said:
    So three hours per feature request is what should be expected from devs now.

    Yeah, that's normally what people seem to expect!

    (True story -- there was a bug in one of my apps, and a guy sent me email about it. It took about four hours to find and fix, and I emailed him back that I had a fix, and that it was submitted to Apple. This was back when Apple review times took about a week. The guy completely flipped out that a week was too long, and wound up taking a massive dump in the reviews on iTunes about how I was a shady developer, not fixing problems fast enough. And the app was free.... And I'd bet that every single app developer has a pile of tales like that!).

  • edited December 2016

    Launchpad integration would be a killer feature. More control from external midi device would be welcome, like 1 button per clip.
    I'll be back in 3 hours ;) thanks

  • @SecretBaseDesign said:

    @AudioGus said:
    So three hours per feature request is what should be expected from devs now.

    Yeah, that's normally what people seem to expect!

    (True story -- there was a bug in one of my apps, and a guy sent me email about it. It took about four hours to find and fix, and I emailed him back that I had a fix, and that it was submitted to Apple. This was back when Apple review times took about a week. The guy completely flipped out that a week was too long, and wound up taking a massive dump in the reviews on iTunes about how I was a shady developer, not fixing problems fast enough. And the app was free.... And I'd bet that every single app developer has a pile of tales like that!).

    Ack! I hear yah. The vast majority of interactions are great but we just had a guy send in blatantly photoshopped screenshots of fake problems trying to get freebie iap.

  • @SecretBaseDesign said:

    @gonekrazy3000 said:
    Can we please get a real-time timeline indicator in the pianoroll editor ? its hard for me to use the app without it :/

    Something like this, right?

    that's a great improvement :D Any chance we could get a little more visual feedback ? like having the notes light up as the timeline indicator touches them ? I'm fine if the answer is no but that would make the timeline indicator even more useful :)

  • @AudioGus : Are you a developer? Of what app(s) if I may ask?

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